I'm beginning to fear that Dabo might be a tad rigged...

RennJaxo

Also, I may be an idiot.

But damn, did I ever want that Sisko.

[10F] Belle'Anna

Phew, that's harsh. But I've seen it quite regularly. I'd like to see the average number of spins each person makes before getting a legendary. I've never done more than 3 spins (2 of dilithium) before quitting. The likelihood of grabbing that top prize is very slim without a big spend!

RennJaxo

I normally don't do more than one, maybe two spins. But Sisko...I let my emotions get the best of me, I'm afraid.

[7TW] UnkieB

I make no claims to the accuracy of the numbers, but from the Wiki...


https://stt.wiki/wiki/Time_Portal#Dabo_Wheel

izausome

Yeah its been rigged since forever. Don't waste your dil.

Ace_Rimmer

I've spun once or twice every day since the dabo started and I've only ever got one thing off the top row - the equipment. Totally rigged but I still play!

[10F] Belle'Anna

[7TW] UnkieB wrote: »

I make no claims to the accuracy of the numbers, but from the Wiki...


https://stt.wiki/wiki/Time_Portal#Dabo_Wheel

I dunno. I've been playing since the end of July last year, that's a minimum of 365 daily spins plus the occasional second spin, so I'd estimate that I should have hit top row 4 times if it was 1%, but I've only had one piece of equipment drop and no crew. I'm assuming the likelihood of a legendary drop is extremely low.

Aldude

I have played the dabo wheel every single day since I started playing (Feb 2017). I never once had anything from the top row.

But I have had the gold crew from gauntlet 7 times, so I guess it averages out!

(CSF) Jesus Is Lord [••••]

A tad? Not even in the ballpark....(figured that pun was a good one as Sisko loved baseball)

Peachtree Rex

Cannonically it is run by Ferengi. Did you expect a fair game?

Secret Journey

Another bait and switch...this games bread and butter

V.

I wouldn't call it rigged since we know the odds. I would call it a slight chance at free schematics or a blue equipment I don't need.

[KF] Kapitan Dobchan

Precisely, in one and a half years I have never won anything on he top row. So yeah, best not use dil on it.

Cpt. Caveman

[7TW] UnkieB wrote: »

I make no claims to the accuracy of the numbers, but from the Wiki...


https://stt.wiki/wiki/Time_Portal#Dabo_Wheel

Those might be the numbers someone came up with, but there is no way that it's accurate. Otherwise everyone spinning once a day would see a top row every 3 months. 1:90 day = 1.11%

Cpt. Caveman

I'd be more likely to see once every 3 years

1:1095 days = 0.09%

0.01% - 0.02% - 0.02% - 0.02% = 0.09%
1.0% - 2.0% - 2.0% - 2.0% - 2.0% = 9.0%
15% - 15% - 20% - 20% - 20% = 90%

total of 99.09% with some remainders somewhere.

Data1001

V. wrote: »

I wouldn't call it rigged since we know the odds. I would call it a slight chance at free schematics or a blue equipment I don't need.

Yeah, the word "rigged" is tossed around so often on this forum — it implies malicious and hidden attempts to skew results against the player. The odds are indeed skewed against the player in the case of Dabo, but there's no hidden malicious intent here. Just incredibly poor odds for top row items.

Brunt, FCA

Secret Journey wrote: »

Another bait and switch...this games bread and butter

How is Dabo a bait and switch?

Emmett K

I wonder if the top row retains its 1.28 % even ad pulls are made instead of enlarging porportionally with the void of each pull.

Peachtree Rex

Emmett K wrote: »

I wonder if the top row retains its 1.28 % even ad pulls are made instead of enlarging porportionally with the void of each pull.

I believe they proportionally increase as options are removed. At least that was what was reported from that original research.

Commander Sinclair

They should give us the option of like 3 spins for x Dils (maybe 75?), that way the odds increase ever so slightly in our favour and they get us to spend more!

[FSC] Adm: Gryphon

hey @Shan how about some Dabo Change ups that might get more people playing the Dabo
i threw this together to give you some ideas. i know its rough, but hoping its some thing your team might consider.

Peachtree Rex

[FSC] Gryphon wrote: »

hey @Shan how about some Dabo Change ups that might get more people playing the Dabo
i threw this together to give you some ideas. i know its rough, but hoping its some thing your team might consider.

Fwiw, black on blue is an excruciating color combination for some to read. Better off putting you suggestion into actual text

[FSC] Adm: Gryphon

Peachtree Rex wrote: »

Fwiw, black on blue is an excruciating color combination for some to read. Better off putting you suggestion into actual text

LOL, i wasn't thinking heraldry standards at the time. but i figured the suggestion might be viable and encurage peeps to play the dabo more often if they had some thing of worth to go splurge on.
adn adding a building Dilithium jackpot would crtainly do that for a great many of us.
most of the time the Dabo has junk i can easily get or build myself for a couple chrons, if DB were to drop the most common items all together, it would increase the dabo value to the players.
DB could lower the over all cost increase per spin, so players would likely spin more often, say 2 spins for 2500 credits, then 5 Dil each for 2 spins, 10, 15, 20, 30, and so on, granted maybe not those exact amounts, but it would increase the Dabo popularity for certain with a lot of peeps.
i find most of the time whats on the wheel is a joke not even worth credits spinning for, as i can replicate it for less. 5k > 1200

(HGH)Apollo

DB should change the name from dabo to shirtbo. 90% of the time you get a shirt. The odds on it makes video poker at disreputable casino look good.

[NDQ] Joker41NAM

I've been tracking my Dabo results for over a year and a half. For what it's worth, my results are within 3% of the Wiki in all fields.

That said, in that year and a half I haven't seen a single hit in the top row. So can't say I'm surprised at OP's results.

(HGH)Apollo

Yeah I havent gotten anything from the top row since db greatly reduced the odds two weeks after they started it.

Major Konigs

hmm i got 2 legendary probably less 5 month i got Mirror Beverly crusher and me last one this weekend i got data tempted data and only play the 5k each day but is take me more then 20 month to win 2 time the legendary i think for long time is not possible to win it

*Nomad* {PoF}

(HGH)Apollo wrote: »

DB should change the name from dabo to shirtbo. 90% of the time you get a shirt. The odds on it makes video poker at disreputable casino look good.

I've won so many shirts, I opened my own store......

Raijinmeister

RennJaxo wrote: »

Also, I may be an idiot.

But damn, did I ever want that Sisko.

Dude...