After investigating event bonuses for Adhar Ru'afo and other crew, we found that all the bonuses are working as intended.
Please note, that in phase 1 of this event, Ru'afo only has matching bonus crew traits in the first three of the five skirmish battles. If used in those first three skirmish battles, he receives the high bonus which is a larger bonus than crew receiving low bonus and non-event crew receiving the base bonus for having an applicable trait. Ru'afo, and other crew who do not have the bonus crew traits, will not receive any bonus in the fourth and fifth skirmish battles.
Example: Battle 1/5 with the Veteran and Brutal traits (Ru'afo has Brutal trait).
Example: Battle 4/5 with the Starfleet and Physician traits (Ru'afo does not have either of these traits).
Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, is all ancient history. Then, before you can blink an eye, suddenly, it threatens to start all over again."
After investigating event bonuses for Adhar Ru'afo and other crew, we found that all the bonuses are working as intended.
Please note, that in phase 1 of this event, Ru'afo only has matching bonus crew traits in the first three of the five skirmish battles. If used in those first three skirmish battles, he receives the high bonus which is a larger bonus than crew receiving low bonus and non-event crew receiving the base bonus for having an applicable trait. Ru'afo, and other crew who do not have the bonus crew traits, will not receive any bonus in the fourth and fifth skirmish battles.
Example: Battle 1/5 with the Veteran and Brutal traits (Ru'afo has Brutal trait).
Example: Battle 4/5 with the Starfleet and Physician traits (Ru'afo does not have either of these traits).
This information is not what we have been told in the past. You do gain bonus based on matching traits but it has always been the case that event crew give maximum bonus regardless of traits. I can also confirm that it is working this way with First Goran (whom I'm using right now).
After investigating event bonuses for Adhar Ru'afo and other crew, we found that all the bonuses are working as intended.
1) That is not how it was advertised to work. Ru'afo is high event bonus crew, which means he was advertised to give double bonus for all battles.
2) It is not how it is working with First Goran'Agar and Yelgrun who give full bonuses for all battles.
I for one would prefer to have this work like skirmishes past where event crew (including mega event legendary) give max bonus in every battle.
I meant it that way
Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, is all ancient history. Then, before you can blink an eye, suddenly, it threatens to start all over again."
One, that would be an unannounced change in rules. Two, with this useless arena interface you can't have it setup that you have to change crew every round.
This is still bugged, this is not correct behavior. Somebody's going to have to go back and investigate.
After investigating event bonuses for Adhar Ru'afo and other crew, we found that all the bonuses are working as intended.
Please note, that in phase 1 of this event, Ru'afo only has matching bonus crew traits in the first three of the five skirmish battles. If used in those first three skirmish battles, he receives the high bonus which is a larger bonus than crew receiving low bonus and non-event crew receiving the base bonus for having an applicable trait. Ru'afo, and other crew who do not have the bonus crew traits, will not receive any bonus in the fourth and fifth skirmish battles.
Example: Battle 1/5 with the Veteran and Brutal traits (Ru'afo has Brutal trait).
Example: Battle 4/5 with the Starfleet and Physician traits (Ru'afo does not have either of these traits).
This is not the way it's worked in any previous skirmish, event crew (to which Ru'afo is) have always been max bonus regardless of traits.
Sigh... same ol' stuff all the time
Surak had the same issue in Reunification, the faction/galaxy hybrid which was the last event in the Vulcan/Romulan mega.
He did not give the proper bonus during the galaxy phase. During the event, players ticketed, and were told, no, he's not supposed to provide event bonus.
Then on Monday, we all learned "oh oops, yeah, he was, but we're not going to send global compensation because everyone was affected equally."
Then, a little while later, on May 1st, we all received a 4* citation in the mail along with a little note about the issue.
Which is all to say... this has happened before. This is not what is supposed to be happening. Please fix this, instead of telling us we're wrong (again), because unless you've made a major change to the way mega events opperate, in the midst of a mega event, and neglected to inform us... we're not wrong.
1) Recurring mega event legendary crew have always had matching bonus traits.
2) Recurring mega event legendary crew have always given a max bonus regardless of a battle’s traits.
Whichever of these is the case, one thing is true: Skirmish events have been explained and designed so poorly that this appesrs to be a bug to many people.
I guess we'll have to keep at it until we can get them to understand how their game is supposed to work.
Which will be a couple days after Shan returns from holiday. DB, please consider looking at the precedents mentioned above. Even if you decide to compensate us later for phase one, it would probably save a LOT of customer service tickets and headaches if phase two works like previous skirmishes - meaning that mega event legendary gives high bonus throughout.
I have thousands of chrons already, which doesn't count the other thousands of sorrychrons that I leave in my inbox because I can't spend the things fast enough. If there will be a sorryitem, I'd rather have citations (purple or gold).
I didnt have time to read the whole post just want to post out that... it was written in the event description...
Bonus crew:
• high bonus: event crew and Ahdar Ru'afo
• small bonus: variants of Dr. Phlox, and crew with the Dominion trait.
DB you owe me some serious points here thats 2k for each skirmish i finished and 250 points for the one that didnt even give me the full 1k using Ru'afo...
please fix this!!!!
This reminds me of a quote from The (fake) Mandarin: "Yeah, but when an actor tells you he's "done the research" it means he's switched on his computer, googled his own name and had a quick w@nk."
Please substitute the word "actor" and the phrase "done the research" with appropriate situational context replacements.
In the immortal words of Spock: "Live long and prosper"
in case db wants to check that this is an actual issue I have been streaming this event on youtube...
This was the steam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X43CBQ4Sz3g
(edited because i ended the stream and this is the the entire stream of the event i ran so you can calculate how many points I lost due to your bug)
i didnt remember bonus was to give 4k on last battle so i didnt even know i was being cheated till i got a 750 at the end of the 4th battle after a long haul through the event...
I understand this is frustrating, but let's not throw insults around, please.
We have some new information that reveals a complicated situation involving a new bug.
Skirmish events are supposed to operate the way I explained above: only crew with applicable traits for each Skirmish battle should receive bonuses. When crew members receive bonuses for having an applicable trait, event crew will receive the highest possible bonus, followed by low-bonus crew, followed by non-event crew.
The reason I said should is because that is how these events are coded and how they were designed to work. However, looking into this event has revealed a new bug which may have led to many of you thinking that featured event crew will always receive a bonus during Skirmishes even if they do not have an applicable trait. During past Skirmish events and this current Skirmish event, there was an erroneous bit of code that was giving bonuses to crew that shouldn't have been receiving them (two examples of this issue are Weyoun Clone 4 due to his Dominion trait and any Phlox crew used in the current event, "Advance Directive"). For this event, you can use any Dominion crew and all Phloxes to always receive a crew bonus even though they may not have an applicable trait for certain Skirmish battles.
To bring this all back around to the reason this thread was started: Ru’afo is receiving the correct bonus for this event. I apologize that a hidden bug has led some of you to think that Skirmish events always provide bonuses to event crew regardless of whether or not they possess an applicable trait for a particular Skirmish battle. That is not the case, and we are working on a fix for this bug for future events.
For a better explanation of how Skirmish events will work in the future, you can read our blog post about this event type: http://bit.ly/sttskirmishevent
Let me know if you have any more questions about Skirmishes, and I will do my best to get them answered.
Skirmish events are supposed to operate the way I explained above: only crew with applicable traits for each Skirmish battle should receive bonuses. When crew members receive bonuses for having an applicable trait, event crew will receive the highest possible bonus, followed by low-bonus crew, followed by non-event crew.
The reason I said should is because that is how these events are coded and how they were designed to work. However, looking into this event has revealed a new bug which may have led to many of you thinking that featured event crew will always receive a bonus during Skirmishes even if they do not have an applicable trait.
Uh, what led many of us into thinking that featured event crew would provide a bonus is that the in-game info told us that.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
From the initial post about "Skirmishes" when they first came out.
That's the newly edited version. The original made no mention of loot/vp, just that "various crew members can give bonuses to hull and round-to-round healing based on their traits."
This really hurts because it means you have to switch crew for each battle to get the full bonus. So instead of the agonizing long animations between battles we are now going to have agonizing long animations and spend 5 minutes between each of the 5 battles trying to find the crew we are looking for to switch them out.
If this is indeed the intended design, then give us the ability to mark crew as favorites so they are ALWAYS at the TOP of the list.
Does that mean you're going to rewrite the entire rules of skirmishes, talked about publicly here for 4 months, and remove the recurring 5* from being event crew?
Sounds like the exact wrong approach to me. And brings us right back to my first comment when I saw the skirmishes announcement, with a rework to the arena ship and crew selection screens, this is an unworkable and unplayable event.
For this event, you can use any Dominion crew and all Phloxes to always receive a crew bonus even though they may not have an applicable trait for certain Skirmish battles.
Is this intended or the result of the glitch? Will this continue to be the case for this event or should we expect a hotfix to change this?
The blog post with the Skirmish explanation was updated today in order to
1) clarify that crew must have matching traits during each Skirmish battle to earn their high/low/non-event-crew bonus
2) to make a correction: crew receiving bonuses when matching bonus crew traits do not give more hull, they can give more round-to-round hull healing
3) to make an addition: crew receiving bonuses when matching bonus crew traits do give a VP bonus from won battles.
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Please note, that in phase 1 of this event, Ru'afo only has matching bonus crew traits in the first three of the five skirmish battles. If used in those first three skirmish battles, he receives the high bonus which is a larger bonus than crew receiving low bonus and non-event crew receiving the base bonus for having an applicable trait. Ru'afo, and other crew who do not have the bonus crew traits, will not receive any bonus in the fourth and fifth skirmish battles.
Example: Battle 1/5 with the Veteran and Brutal traits (Ru'afo has Brutal trait).
Example: Battle 4/5 with the Starfleet and Physician traits (Ru'afo does not have either of these traits).
This information is not what we have been told in the past. You do gain bonus based on matching traits but it has always been the case that event crew give maximum bonus regardless of traits. I can also confirm that it is working this way with First Goran (whom I'm using right now).
1) That is not how it was advertised to work. Ru'afo is high event bonus crew, which means he was advertised to give double bonus for all battles.
2) It is not how it is working with First Goran'Agar and Yelgrun who give full bonuses for all battles.
I for one would prefer to have this work like skirmishes past where event crew (including mega event legendary) give max bonus in every battle.
I meant it that way
This is still bugged, this is not correct behavior. Somebody's going to have to go back and investigate.
This is not the way it's worked in any previous skirmish, event crew (to which Ru'afo is) have always been max bonus regardless of traits.
Sigh... same ol' stuff all the time
He did not give the proper bonus during the galaxy phase. During the event, players ticketed, and were told, no, he's not supposed to provide event bonus.
Then on Monday, we all learned "oh oops, yeah, he was, but we're not going to send global compensation because everyone was affected equally."
Then, a little while later, on May 1st, we all received a 4* citation in the mail along with a little note about the issue.
Which is all to say... this has happened before. This is not what is supposed to be happening. Please fix this, instead of telling us we're wrong (again), because unless you've made a major change to the way mega events opperate, in the midst of a mega event, and neglected to inform us... we're not wrong.
1) Recurring mega event legendary crew have always had matching bonus traits.
2) Recurring mega event legendary crew have always given a max bonus regardless of a battle’s traits.
Whichever of these is the case, one thing is true: Skirmish events have been explained and designed so poorly that this appesrs to be a bug to many people.
Which will be a couple days after Shan returns from holiday. DB, please consider looking at the precedents mentioned above. Even if you decide to compensate us later for phase one, it would probably save a LOT of customer service tickets and headaches if phase two works like previous skirmishes - meaning that mega event legendary gives high bonus throughout.
Thanks in advance for looking into this.
I have thousands of chrons already, which doesn't count the other thousands of sorrychrons that I leave in my inbox because I can't spend the things fast enough. If there will be a sorryitem, I'd rather have citations (purple or gold).
@Shan 's barely gone a day and we're now at "Cry Havoc! And let slip the dogs of war!"
I call dibs on overturning the first shuttlecraft and setting it on fire!!!
Bonus crew:
• high bonus: event crew and Ahdar Ru'afo
• small bonus: variants of Dr. Phlox, and crew with the Dominion trait.
DB you owe me some serious points here thats 2k for each skirmish i finished and 250 points for the one that didnt even give me the full 1k using Ru'afo...
please fix this!!!!
Please substitute the word "actor" and the phrase "done the research" with appropriate situational context replacements.
This was the steam
(edited because i ended the stream and this is the the entire stream of the event i ran so you can calculate how many points I lost due to your bug)
i didnt remember bonus was to give 4k on last battle so i didnt even know i was being cheated till i got a 750 at the end of the 4th battle after a long haul through the event...
We have some new information that reveals a complicated situation involving a new bug.
Skirmish events are supposed to operate the way I explained above: only crew with applicable traits for each Skirmish battle should receive bonuses. When crew members receive bonuses for having an applicable trait, event crew will receive the highest possible bonus, followed by low-bonus crew, followed by non-event crew.
The reason I said should is because that is how these events are coded and how they were designed to work. However, looking into this event has revealed a new bug which may have led to many of you thinking that featured event crew will always receive a bonus during Skirmishes even if they do not have an applicable trait. During past Skirmish events and this current Skirmish event, there was an erroneous bit of code that was giving bonuses to crew that shouldn't have been receiving them (two examples of this issue are Weyoun Clone 4 due to his Dominion trait and any Phlox crew used in the current event, "Advance Directive"). For this event, you can use any Dominion crew and all Phloxes to always receive a crew bonus even though they may not have an applicable trait for certain Skirmish battles.
To bring this all back around to the reason this thread was started: Ru’afo is receiving the correct bonus for this event. I apologize that a hidden bug has led some of you to think that Skirmish events always provide bonuses to event crew regardless of whether or not they possess an applicable trait for a particular Skirmish battle. That is not the case, and we are working on a fix for this bug for future events.
For a better explanation of how Skirmish events will work in the future, you can read our blog post about this event type: http://bit.ly/sttskirmishevent
Let me know if you have any more questions about Skirmishes, and I will do my best to get them answered.
Uh, what led many of us into thinking that featured event crew would provide a bonus is that the in-game info told us that.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
EDIT - apparently they updated their post my bad..
That's the newly edited version. The original made no mention of loot/vp, just that "various crew members can give bonuses to hull and round-to-round healing based on their traits."
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Oll6xbQdpZ4J:https://www.disruptorbeam.com/blog/2018/05/22/stt-skirmishes-a-new-event-type-coming-to-star-trek-timelines+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1
If this is indeed the intended design, then give us the ability to mark crew as favorites so they are ALWAYS at the TOP of the list.
Thank you for letting us know about that event rule. It should be more specific. I've requested an update from the designers.
Sounds like the exact wrong approach to me. And brings us right back to my first comment when I saw the skirmishes announcement, with a rework to the arena ship and crew selection screens, this is an unworkable and unplayable event.
Is this intended or the result of the glitch? Will this continue to be the case for this event or should we expect a hotfix to change this?
1) clarify that crew must have matching traits during each Skirmish battle to earn their high/low/non-event-crew bonus
2) to make a correction: crew receiving bonuses when matching bonus crew traits do not give more hull, they can give more round-to-round hull healing
3) to make an addition: crew receiving bonuses when matching bonus crew traits do give a VP bonus from won battles.