IT'S TIME!!!!
Admiral Q Baker
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its time to rasie the vip levels and give credit to all the points you couldn't use because of the cap
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Realistically:
More achievements.
More collections.
Hopefully:
Crew slots
Wet dream:
The NCC-1701-E
Crazy fantasy:
The NCC-1701-F
To what? What credit will you give? The top players are so far beyond the VIP14 cap that to continue scaling VIP would be ridiculous. Sure you could probably come up with some options and create VIP15-20. But the majority of players at VIP14 would just be far past VIP20 too. So what do you really accomplish?
I would much rather see enhancements to existing features and completely new stuff. Additions to collections and achievements are a really easy place to start (esp achievements). I would also love to see an increase in the threshold rewards for events. Add other non-event related stuff like honor, credits, chrons, merits.
Honestly 1 2 and 3 sound good to me. I 'd be in favor of that.
Yet there are other players that are not so far above that are in the middle that would get something out of it continuing.
Yes!!
I look at it as this. The ones who are way past VIP 14 have carried the company to where it is at. We have helped to create the game to what it is, and should be compensated in some way because we did that - in special achievements, dils, special crew etc...
Trista
The value will never reflect the worth as long as there are those who throw money around like rice at a wedding for what is completely valueless outside the servers. Excessive spending caused excessive greed which then caused layoffs and lack of quality control. I’m just as much at fault for contributing to the lack of value for spending as much as I have which is tiny compared to some of the bragging I have seen here. Just think how good the game would be and run if all that investment was put back into it instead of trying to branch out and create more cash cows. Had that money not been there then different decisions would probably have been made and we could ALL enjoy the benefits of better quality, more support because the company would have been forced to improve the product which would then improve the revenue stream just more slowly. Perhaps even lower prices and better values which then would create more revenue because more would want to spend.
Value creates profits not high prices that cater to just a few. Maybe someday we will see a world where money isn’t the center of every decision stupid or otherwise and those lucky enough to have more aren’t put on pedestals or stages like some kind of idol. Instead those who choose to be honorable, have integrity and help one another are the ones who should earn extra things in life but sadly don’t. Those people are actually deserving of entitlements although due to their characters most would probably refuse. Seems extremely shallow to think being wealthy or spending excessively entitles one to anything.
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It would just come to you full of dart holes.
https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/5023/qh-the-oldest-fleet-in-timelines-l91-starbase-daily-targets-met
So do you think then Airlines should rid themselves of frequent flyer programs so that those who spent more with them are not rewarded for doing so except for the goods from which they purchased them initially?
You've got a general overall problem with society, and increasing VIP levels or not is going to have little or no impact on such.
The fact VIP exists and that many even moderate spenders have reached high levels simply because they've been around for more than 2 years just shows that a program exists that has not grown with the game. The same can be said for the 'achievements'. You could call folks wanting higher achievements than 350 immortals to be entitled capitalistic whiner babies, or you could say that DB has a program that should grow as the game grows.
Also this is extra crew slots or some such in a game. Not who gets health care, or a better education, etc. Entertainment, frankly, is in a way a luxury item. You really do not need it to breathe, so it's value is whatever enjoyment you get from it.
Do I think prices are too high for some things? Yes.
Do I understand mobile game economics which flies in the face of your assumptions and has been documented and explored? Yes.
Do I think it is ideal? No.
https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/5023/qh-the-oldest-fleet-in-timelines-l91-starbase-daily-targets-met
With regard to the game, I have a problem with giving special compensation, I believe was the word used previously, to a select few who mistakenly think they are entitled to extra things not achievable by other players because of a choice they made to spend, just as I would be to an F2P that thinks because they didn’t spend and “earned it the hard way” are entitled to some sort of extra benefit because of their choice. The only difference between a huge whale and a F2P is how much they choose to spend it doesn’t make either better or more deserving than the other.
We choose to play because of our love for the shows, movies and characters we have grown up with. We all deserve the very best output from the developers because we have all invested something whether it be money or time or both. We collect, we compete, we suggest, we knash our teeth at the boneheaded moves made. But in the long run we are all the same, we love Star Trek. The premise of the show was explorers trying to make the world a better place by spreading a philosophy of help, kindness and even love of others who may not be like us. Try and remember that. It’s just an old TV show but the idea behind it is timeless and something we all can do a better job at. No one person is better or more deserving of anything than another, no piece of society is entitled to more than any other. We all inhabit the same planet, we all breathe the same air the same way as anyone else, we all have the duty, if you will, to do our part to make the world a better place than when we first came into it. That is my point, that is why I chose to spend my time, on a Friday evening, to share what I believe is most important with people who I call my friends whether we have the same viewpoints or not. LLAP
Don't know about him, but I do. All these stupid rewards programs have only resulted in one thing: increased prices. Do you think they give it out of the goodness of their hearts? Hell no. They're just taking a portion of the real money that you paid in the first place, and giving it back to you in a different, more-difficult-to-spend format. Extra hoops to jump through, these days, just to get the same value you once got before these types of rewards programs existed. Extra cards to carry, extra mail to open, extra account profiles to monitor...
Not to mention the fact that many of them are designed so that those who spend a lot, are rewarded, while those who spend little bits over a longer period, get nothing. Know what that's called? Reverse Robin Hood.
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At the risk of going horribly off topic (or at least continuing the trend), Airline and hotel rewards programs are designed to attract business travelers by literally giving business travelers kickbacks (the portion of their spend going to pay for the rewards) they can spend on personal travel for spending their employer’s money.
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Have a blessed day
https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/5023/qh-the-oldest-fleet-in-timelines-l91-starbase-daily-targets-met
2) Seriously making a moral stand on wanting more VIP levels saying its all anti-Trek is frankly baby and the bathwater. And Oxmyx, you do have an issue with society. And I won't be passive aggressive enough to say 'to whom said this' I'll address you directly. I could go all John Stewart on the investment class, since that's appears to be where you're headed about who's wealth is legitimate or not, etc. but that again, is a societal issue not the VIP level.
The VIP program here, IS the frequent buyer/flyer program. That's all it is. It's gimme some more slots or a lil extra dil on my purchase because I've been a loyal paying customer. Right now, seriously, DB needs to do some things to keep the loyal spending base, cause they are bleeding some big revenue streams in at least a couple big spenders who have closed the purse strings. (and yes they need to do some other things as well, they REALLY need to do those other things)
If you think giving perks like an extra replication a day or some extra dil per purchase is wrong 'cause someone has made other purchases, then really buddy, you've got some serious issues with a capitalistic model and how society in many countries work.
Yes, people need to think of other people, and do good works. Many of our biggest spenders here also give quite handsomely to charities and do good works. Just because someone wants their VIP points to have some benefit does not mean they are not donating time, money and/or good to causes like cancer research, homeless shelters and outreach, animal shelters, etc. I know from experience as I've been sponsored by other players, and donated to their causes as well. Painting those folks as bad and anti in the spirit of trek is a pretty broad stroke and as I stated early, very baby and the bathwater.
But this isn't Model UN or even real life. This is a game where you can get more of the game by spending more on the game. That's how the light stay on.
And in this game it is out of date and antiquated having not been adjusted in at least the nearly 2 years I've been here. Just like the more recent achievements (which are available to F2Ps) which are also laughably out of date even though they are even more recently added.
Wanted to comment on the general entitlement game forums tend to breed. While I love ideas like this, and the fact DB CONSTANTLY integrates these ideas into the games(look at old threads, so many suggested crews and ships have been incorporated), I hope the negative feedback isn't taken seriously. I really hope the negative comments like people losing their mind over what crew they "just froze" or the Yar correction don't affect the game.
I don't think any amount of money I or others have spent on the game entitles me or others to be so critical of a game that is so consistent. If anything, I would love to see at least more constructive criticism, not "I'm not spending any more money until my (completely unfair) Yar ship ability is restored." This attitude is not helpful and unfortunately contagious.
I dont like seeing people who work hard to make a game fun every week get crapped on. I hate to think this game I love playing would be injured because people who love it like myself mostly lurk. So I'm speaking out for constructive criticism, good ideas, and praising DB for constantly working on the game with gamer input.
That would be awesome. I might even splurge to buy one. Picturing Leonard, after they trudged home, with his messed up/ajar Picard bald head-piece.😂
Capitalism **tsk tsk**. Sure, there seems to be some good things it can do, largely for the 1%, but for a huge percentage of the world's population capitalism is simply not working.
Anyway, back to the discussion about VIP14 being like the frequent flyer's club.
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