Question About Fleet Management

Bylo Band

Disclaimers:

1. I was torn between posting this in this sub-forum and posting it in the Fleets sub-forum. I settled on this sub-forum because this is not a recruitment pitch and is instead about specific algorithms/mechanics regarding fleet management.

2. It is possible/likely that only admin know the answer to this question.

A few Captains and I recently broke away from a bad situation in the fleet we all joined when starting out and formed our own fleet, and with regard to attracting new players who are looking for their first fleet, how does the game determine which fleets to randomly suggest to these players?

I guess more specifically, here is our dilemma; we have thus far attracted 4 new players to our fleet through random chance, and over time all but 1 has become inactive. Our admiral has booted two of them already and we have a third ready to be shipped out, but it occurred to me that perhaps keeping an inactive in the fleet will make our roster larger and therefore might have a positive impact on the game's internal formulas with regard to increasing the chances our fleet is selected for new players to find.

So i guess the TL;DR question is this: does fleet size matter when the game suggests fleets for new players to join?

Irial

I do not know the specific answer to your question, but here is an approach to consider "just in case" the fleet size is a factor:

- continue to allow the new inactive members to be in your fleet until such time as you need their 'slot' for someone else

That is, until your fleet gets up to 40+ Captains, there is no pressure on your to get rid of an inactive player, and so keeping them around doesn't cost you anything.

My experience has also been that on rare occasions a new player starts out seeming to be inactive, but then after a period of time they engage more in the game and become the type of member you are seeking.

Dirk Gunderson

I don’t think fleet size is necessarily a factor. Browncoats Beyond has been around 40-50 people for a while now and we get random people named Captain who join, change their name (maybe), sometimes join a squad, say nothing (even in response to private messages), and then go inactive. It’s really kind of frustrating...across the 40 members we have right now, only 27 have been active in the last day or so and maybe five people are active in fleet chat. That last part is the most irksome to me - every new member gets a welcome message and almost none actually respond.

Bylo Band

Irial wrote: »

I do not know the specific answer to your question, but here is an approach to consider "just in case" the fleet size is a factor:

- continue to allow the new inactive members to be in your fleet until such time as you need their 'slot' for someone else

That is, until your fleet gets up to 40+ Captains, there is no pressure on your to get rid of an inactive player, and so keeping them around doesn't cost you anything.

My experience has also been that on rare occasions a new player starts out seeming to be inactive, but then after a period of time they engage more in the game and become the type of member you are seeking.

That was EXACTLY my idea. My admiral has been booting people after they hit 3 days, but I thought it might be smart to warehouse them to prop up our roster.

Data1001

Players looking for a fleet will often check how well your fleet ranked in the last event. Keeping laggards around will do nothing. Getting new recruits is a massive challenge, unless you know someone who is very chatty and actually likes spending time in UC, talking to people about potentially joining. Until we had someone like that for our first sister fleet, it was really slow going for a while; then they came along and were able to get us a bunch of new blood — some of whom didn't pan out for whatever reason, but many of whom continue to be strong and active players to this day.

Make sure everyone who joins your fleet knows what you expect of them (Message of the Day is a good place to put that info). If they don't hold up their end of the bargain, contact them and ask what's up. They may have a legitimate reason (sudden work upsurge, new baby, death in the family, etc.), but if not, or if they don't respond at all to repeated attempts, then discharge them. Good fleet management also requires a lot of communication from the Admiral to the squadron leaders — having players who are non-communicative is almost as bad as having inactives, imo.

Good luck — you have a challenge ahead of you, but with patience and persistence and a bit of salesmanship, you'll have a good shot at building the strong fleet you're hoping to have.

guest_1018773326550237

How do you create a squad? I broke from the fleet I was in in an attempt to create a fleet and squad but in the option menu all I see is the cryostsis option instead of the option to join/create squad. I rejioned the fleet I was a part of but still can't create a squad. Any help would be apprciated.

[7TW] UnkieB

Open the fleet menu, scroll to the bottom of the members list, tap create a squadron.

Admiral Skywalker (SECOND FLEET HQ)

ByloBand wrote: »

Disclaimers:

1. I was torn between posting this in this sub-forum and posting it in the Fleets sub-forum. I settled on this sub-forum because this is not a recruitment pitch and is instead about specific algorithms/mechanics regarding fleet management.

2. It is possible/likely that only admin know the answer to this question.

A few Captains and I recently broke away from a bad situation in the fleet we all joined when starting out and formed our own fleet, and with regard to attracting new players who are looking for their first fleet, how does the game determine which fleets to randomly suggest to these players?

I guess more specifically, here is our dilemma; we have thus far attracted 4 new players to our fleet through random chance, and over time all but 1 has become inactive. Our admiral has booted two of them already and we have a third ready to be shipped out, but it occurred to me that perhaps keeping an inactive in the fleet will make our roster larger and therefore might have a positive impact on the game's internal formulas with regard to increasing the chances our fleet is selected for new players to find.

So i guess the TL;DR question is this: does fleet size matter when the game suggests fleets for new players to join?

The Admiral in my former fleet was a poor leader who did not lead. Barely came online at all. I left and set out to prove the better player. Like you guys, I started my own fleet, and just like you, I did not find this easy at first. Please allow me to share insight that worked well.....

Waiting around for the game to suggest your fleet to others is beyond passive, leaning almost too heavily on hope. A better strategy is to actively recruit. Often. It shouldn't matter who the game suggests your fleet to, it should be more important who you suggest your fleet to. In that way, you can be selective with whom to choose to accept. You can have more direct contact from the very start with members, allowing you to inform them of any rules, requests and more. An Admiral should ideally do the recruiting, since it is after all their fleet... Yet officers can recruit as well, should you choose it. The more often you recruit, the sooner you'll fill your ranks and the sooner you'll begin to work on upgrading your start base.

Do you want to rely on ultra-passive chance like hoping the game suggests your fleet to the right people at the right time? Or would you choose to be more aggressive in your search for win to fill the ranks with? The choice is yours. Just don't expect rave results if you favor solely maintaining the ultra-passive approach.

I wish you luck, friend. Please feel free to send me a friend request thru the game and keep in touch. Perhaps I can help you now and then. Our Perhaps we can help one another. Either way, friends are always welcome in my game... As is in life

(IDIC) Princess Yasmin

Admiral Skywalker, just what I have been doing with my fleet. Got one happy camper who did so well we moved him to our main fleet when we had an opening. That’s left us with just myself and my Number One. At the moment it’s like sharks circling when new players express an interest. The starbase level has been a stumbling block - at least it feels that way. We have been going two months and just level 5 out of sheer will. Anything else besides advertising, advertising and more advertising?

Seven of One

I'm in two fleets, one of course is quite well known and doesn't have issues with recruitment really.

The other is our training academy. We tend to click that plus ➕ button when looking for new captains, and of course its always new players that join, never anyone higher than level 20 or so. We rank at 500—600 in events so perhaps that's a factor for people joining I'm not sure. Generally we boot people after a week to a fortnight of inactivity. After dismissing players were generally full again within a couple of hours or so. Its great seeing new players progress up levels and event ranks each week and become enthusiastic about the game. In the early days I did more recruitment than the admiral because he has to work and so I've lots more free time.

Getting players on discord has been much more difficult, which I feel is a shame because the guides and help available outside of the game chat is just so much better.