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So, I wasn't able to find this info anywhere else, and thought I'd calculate and share. Apologies if this has been done already. Below are the frequencies with which skills/skill pairs will show up in crew slots, assuming random draws across all factions, and equal chances of the faction's missions appearing once a faction is selected (which I haven't yet verified).
[UPDATE 10/31 - Recomputed using info shared by RaraRacing and Captain Pugwash below, since wiki is out of date. Includes all daily shuttle missions listed in thread below, and updates 5 of the remaining KCA missions.... will re-edit once all are recorded]
DIP and CMD - 10.74%
SEC - 10.38%
DIP - 8.88%
SEC and CMD - 6.53%
SCI - 5.50%
DIP or SEC - 5.13%
CMD - 5.12%
ENG - 4.99%
CMD and DIP - 4.99%
ENG or SCI - 4.65%
MED - 3.67%
DIP and SEC - 3.40%
CMD and SEC - 3.23%
MED or SCI - 2.07%
SEC or SCI - 1.90%
CMD or DIP - 1.65%
SEC or ENG - 1.42%
CMD or SCI - 1.25%
DIP and SCI - 1.24%
CMD or SEC - 1.22%
CMD or ENG - 1.18%
DIP or SCI - 1.11%
SCI and DIP - 1.05%
SCI and CMD - 0.87%
SEC and DIP - 0.78%
SEC and ENG - 0.77%
DIP or ENG - 0.75%
SCI and ENG - 0.66%
SEC and SCI - 0.64%
DIP or MED - 0.56%
ENG or MED - 0.46%
DIP and MED - 0.46%
ENG and CMD - 0.45%
CMD and ENG - 0.43%
MED and DIP - 0.37%
ENG and SCI - 0.33%
CMD or MED - 0.27%
SCI and MED - 0.18%
SCI and SEC - 0.18%
CMD and SCI - 0.18%
ENG and SEC - 0.17%
ENG and DIP - 0.16%
Do not appear in seats: SEC or MED, CMD and MED, MED and CMD, ENG and MED, MED and ENG, SEC and MED, MED and SEC, MED and SCI, DIP and ENG
DIP appearances: 41.27%
CMD appearances: 38.12%
SEC appearances: 35.76%
SCI appearances: 21.83%
ENG appearances: 16.42%
MED appearances: 8.04%
This was very interesting to do the math on and changes my gameplay a little. Question - would it change yours, and how?
[UPDATE 10/31 - Recomputed using info shared by RaraRacing and Captain Pugwash below, since wiki is out of date. Includes all daily shuttle missions listed in thread below, and updates 5 of the remaining KCA missions.... will re-edit once all are recorded]
DIP and CMD - 10.74%
SEC - 10.38%
DIP - 8.88%
SEC and CMD - 6.53%
SCI - 5.50%
DIP or SEC - 5.13%
CMD - 5.12%
ENG - 4.99%
CMD and DIP - 4.99%
ENG or SCI - 4.65%
MED - 3.67%
DIP and SEC - 3.40%
CMD and SEC - 3.23%
MED or SCI - 2.07%
SEC or SCI - 1.90%
CMD or DIP - 1.65%
SEC or ENG - 1.42%
CMD or SCI - 1.25%
DIP and SCI - 1.24%
CMD or SEC - 1.22%
CMD or ENG - 1.18%
DIP or SCI - 1.11%
SCI and DIP - 1.05%
SCI and CMD - 0.87%
SEC and DIP - 0.78%
SEC and ENG - 0.77%
DIP or ENG - 0.75%
SCI and ENG - 0.66%
SEC and SCI - 0.64%
DIP or MED - 0.56%
ENG or MED - 0.46%
DIP and MED - 0.46%
ENG and CMD - 0.45%
CMD and ENG - 0.43%
MED and DIP - 0.37%
ENG and SCI - 0.33%
CMD or MED - 0.27%
SCI and MED - 0.18%
SCI and SEC - 0.18%
CMD and SCI - 0.18%
ENG and SEC - 0.17%
ENG and DIP - 0.16%
Do not appear in seats: SEC or MED, CMD and MED, MED and CMD, ENG and MED, MED and ENG, SEC and MED, MED and SEC, MED and SCI, DIP and ENG
DIP appearances: 41.27%
CMD appearances: 38.12%
SEC appearances: 35.76%
SCI appearances: 21.83%
ENG appearances: 16.42%
MED appearances: 8.04%
This was very interesting to do the math on and changes my gameplay a little. Question - would it change yours, and how?
Accepted. Mark them, Galt.
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But I had noticed that DIP & SEC seats are always the main skills that dominate the shuttle events.
That's why my fleet always focuses on raising our DIP & SEC skills in our starbase.
You do not see to many MED seats in the shuttles, especially with this mega event that has so much due to all the holo docs and other holo characters. Surprising 🤔
This is for workaday shuttle use (which also means some weighting probably needs to apply; I haven’t had to run a Bajoran mission in over a month)
I’ll tally Fed/31/Dominion seats over this event and post a comparison on whether they differ substantially from daily shuttles after the event ...
Some aha’s for me:
- I had never noticed that there are no MED “AND” pairs in daily shuttles, and very few. SCI’s. And I am definitely overstocked on MEDs overall, because...
- I had definitely built up some implicit bias because of all the whinging on too many CMD/DIP/SEC crew in the forums. “Common” is not the same as “Not Valuable”. All my fault, but I had definitely made some suboptimal Behold choices and citation choices in building up my crew. Durango Troi is now much higher in (top of) my citation queue than she would have been (though I will still finish Leonardo first out of obstinacy and because he’s Leonardo!). It also explains how an otherwise mediocre crew like my FF Joachim has been a valuable daily workhorse.
- Confirms my impression of the importance of a solid 3-4 deep bench of CMD/DIP/SEC before a deep bench of the others. I need just enough of the others to not have to choose between Voyage and Faction success on a daily basis
- AND pairs are nice but their frequencies are low enough that they’re pretty niche.
All of that assumes that a good Voyager is a good Voyager regardless of skill pairs; gauntlet and ship skills are based on other factors, so the remaining ways to assess crew value is shuttle work, and likelihood of appearing in events because of main crew character status or species. The real kicker as you point out is whether Faction Event crew slot skills are predictable ...
Hmm, I was assuming the wiki was complete (it shows a Bajoran and a Terran DIP or MED but no DIP and MED) which might have not been a safe assumption. If you happen to run across it again can you share which mission?
Here are the stats for the last 5 events with shuttle missions (9/6, 9/27, 10/4, 10/18, 11/1). This gives a sample of 104 missions, which is probably large enough to get a basic flavor. I count the ANDs in stated order assuming the bug isn't yet fixed; if you think it is, just add the two alternate pair values together:
CMD - 10.27%
SEC - 10.06%
DIP - 9.82%
ENG - 8.27%
SCI - 7.29%
SEC and CMD - 6.59%
DIP and CMD - 5.11%
MED - 4.57%
CMD or SEC - 3.27%
CMD or DIP - 2.23%
CMD or ENG - 1.70%
CMD and SEC - 1.63%
DIP and SEC - 1.60%
ENG and DIP - 1.59%
CMD or SCI - 1.55%
SCI and MED - 1.36%
MED and SCI - 1.31% (does not appear in daily shuttles)
ENG and SEC - 1.30%
MED and DIP - 1.30%
ENG or SCI - 1.28%
SEC and ENG - 1.28%
DIP or SEC - 1.23%
CMD and DIP - 1.20%
SEC or ENG - 1.07%
DIP or MED - 1.04%
SCI and CMD - 1.04%
ENG and CMD - 1.04%
DIP and ENG - 0.99% (does not appear in daily shuttles)
MED and CMD - 0.96% (does not appear in daily shuttles)
SCI and ENG - 0.91%
DIP or ENG - 0.83%
DIP or SCI - 0.80%
SEC and DIP - 0.80%
CMD and ENG - 0.67%
SEC or SCI - 0.64%
CMD or MED - 0.56%
ENG and SCI - 0.51%
DIP and SCI - 0.48%
DIP and MED - 0.48%
SCI and DIP - 0.43%
MED or SCI - 0.32%
SEC or MED - 0.32%
MED and ENG - 0.24% (does not appear in daily shuttles)
SEC and SCI - 0%
ENG or MED - 0%
CMD and MED - 0% (also does not appear in daily shuttles)
ENG and MED - 0% (also does not appear in daily shuttles)
SEC and MED - 0% (also does not appear in daily shuttles)
MED and SEC - 0% (also does not appear in daily shuttles)
SCI and SEC - 0%
CMD and SCI - 0%
CMD appearances: 37.84%
DIP appearances: 29.95%
SEC appearances: 29.81%
ENG appearances: 21.70%
SCI appearances: 17.95%
MED appearances: 12.47%
Any AND or OR combination, any order (excludes singles, see above for them):
CMD-SEC : 11.49%
CMD-DIP : 8.54%
ENG-SEC: 3.65%
DIP-SEC: 3.64%
DIP-ENG: 3.41%
CMD-ENG: 3.41%
MED-SCI: 3.00%
DIP-MED: 2.82%
ENG-SCI: 2.71%
CMD-SCI: 2.60%
DIP-SCI: 1.71%
CMD-MED: 1.52%
SEC-SCI: 0.64%
SEC-MED: 0.32%
ENG-MED: 0.24%
Augment
Enhance Crew Member
3 slots
MED
MED & DIP <-- yup
CMD & DIP
Lursa's Son
3 slots
DIP & CMD
MED
DIP & MED <-- yup
Running them right now.
EDIT: Now that I'm checking the wiki ... a lot of Augment ones are off, these are the other two I'm running, which are also incorrect on the wiki.
Co-opt Scientists
3 slots
DIP & CMD
SCI
CMD & SCI <-- so, yes this appears in daily shuttles!
Quell Dissent
3 slots
DIP or SEC
DIP & SEC
CMD & DIP
So, I think that the wiki needs a big refresh with regards to shuttle seats for various factions. e.g. Dominion shuttles also don't seem correct to me, I ran a few recently and remember other set-ups.
EDIT2: Like I thought, opened up 4 more Augment missions and most are incorrect with the wiki:
Steal Usefull Technology - CMD or ENG / DIP & SCI / SCI or ENG. <-- DIP & SCI does appear on dailies.
Raid Cold Stations - correct.
Colonise New World - SCI & SEC / ENG / SEC or ENG.
Hijack Ship for Augments - SEC & ENG / ENG.
So ... time to review those numbers ...
Hope this is of some use.
Thanks!!!
UPDATE: Well, that went faster than expected. Stats above have been edited using your data - thanks! They should now be 95+% accurate; I pulled in all of yours and have tracked down 5 of the 14 KCA missions to update, so 189 of the 198-ish daily missions are current in the stats. A couple of missions from the wiki aren't in your list so I also need to watch to see if they have been retired or not ...
Seeing these stats is definitely going to influence my fusing/citation priority queue ...