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Torias327
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I don’t consider myself particularly delicate, or needing to be sheltered from the harsher truths of the world, but the new advertisement for a petition website featuring a teacher torturing and drowning raccoons in front of children, that was a little much. I will be emailing directly into CS as well, but Shan and Co., if you see this, reconsider that company being in the advertisement pool, it’s not boring, tedious, dumb, or salesy, it’s just emotionally predatory and disturbing. And for anyone that hasn’t seen it yet, and IS sensitive to animal abuse, look away from the start if you see a raccoon on the screen, fair warning.
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And before the brutally pragmatic “money talks, blah blah blah” post pops up (I know this fan base, there is no doubt a Vulcan out there right now already typing it), yes I understand it’s all about money. Not going to change my opinion on the appropriate nature of this shock ad.
I for one feel we as humans are shielded from FAR too much. Transparency is immense. NOT showing stuff like this is akin to accepting it.
I have not seen that ad (which is odd as I watch a LOT of ads! - and I dutifully watch each one) but from the original description it sounds like some raccoons were drowned in front of students? NOT showing the world that event dishonors those raccoons. Those raccoons are already dead, watching the video does nothing to alter events that have already occurred, however publicly acknowledging the event will have a profound impact on FUTURE raccoons that are not yet dead.
In short @Torias327 I feel you are advocating for the exact wrong thing, for the absolute right reasons. It sounds like you were profoundly impacted by the death of those raccoons and if that is the case honor their death, do not try to hide it.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
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As a follow up, a second ad from the same petition site showing a scene of dogs being drug behind a truck came up during my double your mission rewards Ad. Dogs are even more highly emotional as a common companion animal. This is not acceptable content for this game, and now my activism IS up, and I plan to drive this point into DB as deeply as I can. It’s nice to see Silver agreeing, and knowing the biggest names on the forum have similar feelings. Personally I’d take “enhancement” ads over these animal snuff clips any day, but I haven’t had the joy of catching that one yet.
Also, just as a heads up, there is one out there pretty similar to the ones already mentioned dealing with kittens so watch out for that one as well.
I don't know if I'd particularly enjoy seeing ads for animals being killed or whatever, I'm sure it's very traumatic (not as much as seeing ducks deliberately run over as has been seen in my local area by my partner recently who was massively traumatized being an animal lover and rabid vegetarian).
In general I think bad behaviour should be exposed, and I'm much in favour of shock advertising where appropriate but not around children which is where we are starting to get a problem here. Now I know this my daughter will certainly not be running ad-warps for me again, and that's a shame because she loves helping me push buttons in this game. I have a massive buffer of chronitons so she can muck about while we are on the bus or whatever!
I don't know what the player base age is for Timelines but I think DB needs to have a word to its advertiser.
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Count me in as well. I haven’t seen these ads but thank you for the heads up so I can shut them off immediately. I know I have said this before but not all of my money goes to STT. A good portion of it goes to animal causes and shelters. If I go to Petsmart or Petco, my $20 purchase turns to $40 because I donate the max every single time. Animal abuse makes me sick. I wish I could be out there with the troops that stop it but I can’t. I would not be able to handle it emotionally. I do the next best thing and support their salaries so they can continue to champion that cause. I’m not afraid to admit that I would have a huge problem with seeing these ads, much like the one with the elephants head split open about a year ago, because I would be emotionally disturbed by it. Yes, as a 45 year old man who has toughed it through alot in life, that is the one thing I can not handle. I take pride in wearing this shirt and I don’t claim any of my donations on my taxes, not even my monthly ASPCA. I throw the tax documents away when I get them. It’s not why I do it and I feel claiming it taints the purity of it.
Perhaps a tad off topic but you've given me yet another reason to admire you sir. And I love seeing pictures of Banjo, he's so cute. My 9 year old Gabriel probably doesn't appreciate that though.
Ha! Hey it’s all animals, cats or dogs. In fact we have a raccoon at work that dogs through our dumpster. Everyone is afraid of it and wants me to get someone out here to get rid of it. I tell them hell no. Leave him alone and let him eat. The poor thing is hungry
I wonder if the ads we see relate to our locale? I live in Canada, on occasion I have seen some seemingly locally sourced ads. So perhaps this new disturbing ad is American or in a certain area of America (e.g. West Coast)?
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This, in Australia as well. I posted it here, it got noticed quickly, was told the image was inappropriate for the forum, which means it should be the same for our personal devices, right? I have not seen it since, so maybe DB is taking action on the worst.
It's an advert. On a game.
I'm all for educating about the world and being transparent but, come on, there's a time and a place.
Let's face it, no one is inviting Katie the Crack Whore to bring a client round after dinner so the kids can look in her dead eyes, whilst said client is getting what they paid for on the dinner table, as plates clatter and glasses get knocked over, to learn about the dangers of addiction, the attendant social ills, prostitution and the vital importance of prophylactics as Katie later gives a tour of her more visible STDs during digestifs.
Outside of a Monty Python or South Park sketch at any rate.
And why? Because it would be horribly inappropriate in both context and execution.
This ad sounds like it is guilty of the same thing.
I often see different ads for games on different devices, and my OH has ads for games but again a different type. I'm on Google and will also often see the same ads on Facebook.
My 12 year old son plays timelines, there's a time and a place for the Injustices in the world and I'd like to choose it myself, not have a game ad dictate when that discussion needs to take place.
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Offtopic: Awesome, I wish more people would be like this. Have you considered claiming some taxes back on your donations and using the money you get back to give more to the charities you give to? That way you do your share and your government sort of chips in too.
Just a thought.
On topic: I have no problem with ads like these, but then I follow the Vulcan logic when it comes to consuming animals:
You know I hadn’t thought of that. That’s a great idea!
That’s interesting. I’m in the UK too and I only ever get ads for other mobile games (Final Fantasy being a common one).
It seems to me that DB are shopping around with ad providers and choosing the ones with highest revenue potential. Some of the providers with better rates may be accomplishing this by letting through some of the dodgy/grey area ads - not respecting DB’s specifications on what’s appropriate.
Ultimately, it’s DB that choose the providers and maybe they need to accept a cut in revenue to stick with the more honest and controllable ones.
The two-part ads are much harder to ignore. They also seem to be focused on a wider array of topics - these days, the handful of 30-second ads I see are for other mobile games while the two-part ads are for everything from Google search to sports. I have not seen any animal cruelty-related ads but I have been getting “articles” that are poorly disguised pseudoscience...although not as graphic or shocking as a drowned raccoon, they are highly disappointing. “The best way to de-stress based on your astrological sign” is not in the spirit of Star Trek, no matter how much of Trek’s science was made up by writers that wouldn’t know torque from current even if you zapped them with a stun gun.
Before this thread gets off the rails... let's all simply agree that there are genres of ads that are inappropriate for this venue. Let's also agree to minimize sharing our personal views of how humans interact with non-humans for whatever purposes, either pro-whatever or anti-whatever. Those discussions are best taken up in different settings - though I suppose none of us would know if we're talking to each other elsewhere. (OK, one exception - I'm happy to read various stories of how our pets brighten up our lives.)
What’s funny is the google ads are ads that play at the beginning of videos for other ads
They’re ads within ads
Otherwise, I just find the ad monumentally annoying. It’s basically a horrifying spin on the standard variety of disingenuous clickbait meme that you rarely see on Facebook anymore because you unsubscribed all of the idiots who like to post them. (That might just be me.) I can just imagine this thing being created solely as an implement of torture by some colony of self righteous vegans after they got bored with yelling at people who aren’t adopting shelter pets. It’s a digital version of person on the street with a clipboard who won’t take your lack of eye contact or extended middle finger as a hint.
At any rate, I watch the ads, 90% of the time I’m indifferent to them. But this is one of the few instances where I felt like I was genuinely suffering for my free chronitons.
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