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Detective Data considering Dr Watson is there.
Prospero Data
All versions of Dixon Hill Picard
Captain Proton Paris and Buster Kincaid Kim

If these aren't Holodeck Enthusiasts I don't know what defines one

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  • [ISA] Big McLargeHuge[ISA] Big McLargeHuge ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2019
    I believe the intent (if it can be inferred) was to have one representative for each character and not have too much overlap from other holodeck-themed collections. But if those were added, Duelist Barclay, Bashir, Julian Bashir, and Garak, Elim Garak should be also.
  • robownagerobownage ✭✭✭✭✭
    They seem to have opted for only one version of each character to be included. It does seem strange that there's no Picard versions in the collection, but if I'm not mistaken the Big Goodbye collection came out the week before so it may have been overkill in the moment.
  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    The collection was also designed to force you to complete it including all the 5* to FF Janeway. They are not going to add a bunch of 4* crew and make it easier to get Janeway. Of all the collections, this is one that is going to remain the same and not grow with crew changes.
  • Zetterbeard Zetterbeard ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone they should add is Riker. Age of Sail Riker would be a good choice.
  • WebberoniWebberoni ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is strange that neither Picard or Riker are included, since they were both holodeck enthusiasts. They could add 5* variants of each to avoid throwing off the balance of the collection for the reward structure.
  • IvlainIvlain ✭✭✭✭
    I could see Riker as Chef for that collection.
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    The collection was also designed to force you to complete it including all the 5* to FF Janeway. They are not going to add a bunch of 4* crew and make it easier to get Janeway. Of all the collections, this is one that is going to remain the same and not grow with crew changes.
    I like this collection. It was a great idea to have a character you could only get by completing this collection. My problem is in that the new janeway that you get from this set does not have good enoigh stats to merit the effort involved. She should be the best crewmember in the game.
    Let’s fly!
  • Zetterbeard Zetterbeard ✭✭✭✭✭
    (HGH)Apollo wrote: »
    AviTrek wrote: »
    The collection was also designed to force you to complete it including all the 5* to FF Janeway. They are not going to add a bunch of 4* crew and make it easier to get Janeway. Of all the collections, this is one that is going to remain the same and not grow with crew changes.
    I like this collection. It was a great idea to have a character you could only get by completing this collection. My problem is in that the new janeway that you get from this set does not have good enoigh stats to merit the effort involved. She should be the best crewmember in the game.

    Lucille is comparable to Professor Sato. She is well worth the effort.
  • KaiteeKaitee ✭✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    The collection was also designed to force you to complete it including all the 5* to FF Janeway. They are not going to add a bunch of 4* crew and make it easier to get Janeway. Of all the collections, this is one that is going to remain the same and not grow with crew changes.

    It's a real shame. I like the idea of there being this ultra-exclusive collection character you really have to work for, but I feel like the holodeck was a bad choice for it - there's so many times folks have been hanging out in the holodeck in whatever costume, across all three TNG-era series, it seems really counterintuitive to limit the collection just for gameplay's sake.
  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    Zetterbeard wrote: »
    (HGH)Apollo wrote: »
    AviTrek wrote: »
    The collection was also designed to force you to complete it including all the 5* to FF Janeway. They are not going to add a bunch of 4* crew and make it easier to get Janeway. Of all the collections, this is one that is going to remain the same and not grow with crew changes.
    I like this collection. It was a great idea to have a character you could only get by completing this collection. My problem is in that the new janeway that you get from this set does not have good enoigh stats to merit the effort involved. She should be the best crewmember in the game.

    Lucille is comparable to Professor Sato. She is well worth the effort.

    Lucille has a base DIP of 1179 FF and is currently #22 in the game. She is also #27 for Voyages.

    Sato has a base DIP if 1517 and is the #1 base in the game and is #5 for Voyages.

    They are not comparable. I currently only need 1 more crew to get my first Lucille. I have 150k in honor that I will be using soon. Why would I give that to Delta Flyer Paris to work towards Lucille when I can give it to Interfaced La Forge who will be a better DIP crew than Lucille?

    I agree with the cool idea, but too weak a character to be worth the effort/focus.

  • Zetterbeard Zetterbeard ✭✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    Zetterbeard wrote: »
    (HGH)Apollo wrote: »
    AviTrek wrote: »
    The collection was also designed to force you to complete it including all the 5* to FF Janeway. They are not going to add a bunch of 4* crew and make it easier to get Janeway. Of all the collections, this is one that is going to remain the same and not grow with crew changes.
    I like this collection. It was a great idea to have a character you could only get by completing this collection. My problem is in that the new janeway that you get from this set does not have good enoigh stats to merit the effort involved. She should be the best crewmember in the game.

    Lucille is comparable to Professor Sato. She is well worth the effort.

    Lucille has a base DIP of 1179 FF and is currently #22 in the game. She is also #27 for Voyages.

    Sato has a base DIP if 1517 and is the #1 base in the game and is #5 for Voyages.

    They are not comparable. I currently only need 1 more crew to get my first Lucille. I have 150k in honor that I will be using soon. Why would I give that to Delta Flyer Paris to work towards Lucille when I can give it to Interfaced La Forge who will be a better DIP crew than Lucille?

    I agree with the cool idea, but too weak a character to be worth the effort/focus.

    That's my bad. I thought Lucille had better diplomacy than that.
  • PenguinJimPenguinJim ✭✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    Zetterbeard wrote: »
    Lucille is comparable to Professor Sato. She is well worth the effort.

    Lucille has a base DIP of 1179 FF and is currently #22 in the game. She is also #27 for Voyages.

    Sato has a base DIP if 1517 and is the #1 base in the game and is #5 for Voyages.

    They are not comparable.
    I'm not sure where you're getting those Voyage numbers from... there's a massive 11 points difference in total Voyage points between Lucille and Professor Sato with maximum bonuses (3767 vs 3778), with similar points distribution across Dip/Com/Sci. But Professor Sato still has that excellent base Dip which really does make her stand out compared with Lucille (although we'll likely see more Janeway events than Sato events).
    AviTrek wrote: »
    I currently only need 1 more crew to get my first Lucille. I have 150k in honor that I will be using soon. Why would I give that to Delta Flyer Paris to work towards Lucille when I can give it to Interfaced La Forge who will be a better DIP crew than Lucille?
    Errr... because you'd also have a 5/5 Delta Flyer Paris!

    I'd take Interfaced La Forge in your position, too, but there is some value there for people with a few stars on those legendaries already. RAF O'Brien, DF Paris and Data V are all excellent crew and in many situations would be good for shortlisting for citations anyway. If that's enough to get you a 2/5 Lucille, it might also be worth considering Tuxedo Nog (plenty of Voyage Com/Dip; Dip/Eng isn't quite plentiful, yet; and he also counts towards Inspiring) to get a 'bonus 50K honor' for Lucille, too - and then she's just 100K honor from completion.

    It's definitely situational, but it undeniably adds a smidge of value to those Legendaries.
  • enigma starlordenigma starlord ✭✭✭
    Riker as MACO or OPS(red) division NX uni.(suggestion) Durango Troi. Obsessed Barclay from VOY Pathfinder.(suggestion)
  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    PenguinJim wrote: »
    AviTrek wrote: »
    Zetterbeard wrote: »
    Lucille is comparable to Professor Sato. She is well worth the effort.

    Lucille has a base DIP of 1179 FF and is currently #22 in the game. She is also #27 for Voyages.

    Sato has a base DIP if 1517 and is the #1 base in the game and is #5 for Voyages.

    They are not comparable.
    I'm not sure where you're getting those Voyage numbers from... there's a massive 11 points difference in total Voyage points between Lucille and Professor Sato with maximum bonuses (3767 vs 3778), with similar points distribution across Dip/Com/Sci. But Professor Sato still has that excellent base Dip which really does make her stand out compared with Lucille (although we'll likely see more Janeway events than Sato events).

    I was looking at DIP rank. I find it easier to check the wiki than google docs, especially when google docs is blocked at work. Also, I prefer to look at individual stat ranks for voyages than total stats. Yes the total rank lets you fill out other skills more, but if you have a primary or secondary DIP voyage, the missing DIP between Lucille and Sato will need to be made up somewhere else and you may not care about that little extra CMD/SCI that Lucille has.
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