Faction event crew not giving proper bonus

[AR-UNI] General Abre

To start with, I just didn't tell this before, because it was the same for everyone, so I let faction phase finish before posting this. I have seen immortalized 4* Cardassian Kira, be under immortalized 4* Klingon Torres on some occasions and under immortalized 5* Borg Queen several times. In earlier occasions event crew would always be on top and give more success percentage than any other crew. I think DB made it again this time.

[AR-UNI] General Abre

These 2 screen captures, are from the same missions and each one of Cardassian Kira and Borg Queen are put on a specific place of the mission to use two abbilities each one.

Clone

In faction events, I believe it sorts the crew in order of who has the highest skill for the shuttle slot you've chosen. Cardassian Kira shows up below other bonus crew because her numbers are so low that even her 3x bonus doesn't match what those other crew-members are giving you with their 2x bonus. Even with her best 2 skills, she comes out lower than 9 of my other bonus crew.

She's still giving her full bonus, she's just not very good.

[ISA] Big McLargeHuge

[AR-UNI] General Abre wrote: »

To start with, I just didn't tell this before, because it was the same for everyone, so I let faction phase finish before posting this. I have seen immortalized 4* Cardassian Kira, be under immortalized 4* Klingon Torres on some occasions and under immortalized 5* Borg Queen several times. In earlier occasions event crew would always be on top and give more success percentage than any other crew. I think DB made it again this time.

I don’t think it’s an error, Cardassian Kira has exceptionally poor bases. Even with a 3x bonus she would rank under immortal 2x bonus 5* in many cases, and even some 2x bonus 4* crew for specific skills.

Dirk Gunderson

Kira’s event stats (no starbase/collection bonuses) are 1761 SEC, 1365 COM, and 1140 DIP. Klingon Torres’ SEC is 1790 and BQ’s COM is 2468 and DIP is 1784.

For the first slot you’ve chosen, a more apt comparison would be Tsunkatse Seven (1700 SEC and 1358 COM), where Kira has an ever so slight edge.

On the second slot, if you don’t believe the AND bug was fixed a backwards-loaded BQ totals at 2401 and a backwards-loaded Kira can only manage 1481 (they are 2914 and 1650, respectively, if the AND bug was truly fixed). Xindi Prisoner Archer, for example, gets 1786 without worrying about proper skill order.

Ikrit

Dirk Gunderson wrote: »

Kira’s event stats (no starbase/collection bonuses) are 1761 SEC, 1365 COM, and 1140 DIP. Klingon Torres’ SEC is 1790 and BQ’s COM is 2468 and DIP is 1784.

For the first slot you’ve chosen, a more apt comparison would be Tsunkatse Seven (1700 SEC and 1358 COM), where Kira has an ever so slight edge.

On the second slot, if you don’t believe the AND bug was fixed a backwards-loaded BQ totals at 2401 and a backwards-loaded Kira can only manage 1481 (they are 2914 and 1650, respectively, if the AND bug was truly fixed). Xindi Prisoner Archer, for example, gets 1786 without worrying about proper skill order.

Some clarification on this reply:

AND slots (Y if you are playing the Spanish version, as the OP is) are supposed to calculate the total skill as follows

(Higher Skill) + (Lower Skill)/4

The AND bug, which has not been recognized as existing by DB but was discovered by players who tested the displayed success percentages, changes the formula to

(First Skill) + (Second Skill)/4

So in the case of the Borg Queen (a Dip AND Cmd slot), the total skill should be 2914. However, with the AND bug, the higher Cmd is divided by 4 instead of the lower Dip, resulting in a total skill of 2401. The displayed percentage is the success rate if the numbers are being properly calculated, and it is the same regardless of order. If the bug was never fixed, then that 54% for the BQ is more like a 45%, and running that shuttle 100 times would give you, on average, 45 successes instead of 54.

The bug makes a bigger difference if you put thr BQ in an Eng AND Cmd slot (maybe more like a 25% success rate in that case). I don't think that it has been confirmed by players that the bug still exists, but I always err on the side of caution with factions (only using the BQ on Cmd AND Dip slots instead of Dip AND Cmd).

[SSR] GTMET

For what it is worth, I’m pretty sure they have fixed the AND bug to calculate correctly now

Ishmael Marx

Agreed, my experience over the last few faction events suggests that the AND bug is no longer a problem.