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What are they feeding those ST Discovery doctors?!!

Bri Bri ✭✭✭✭
edited July 2019 in The Bridge
First we had Dr Hugh Culber (strongest MED on the game), and now we have Dr. Pollard incoming who is another stat beast amongst the MED crew (who has had even less screen time than Culber). In addition she carries a secondary skill of CMD, making her only the 3rd legendary MED crew with such a skill blend (alongside Reverend Phlox and Captain Crusher).

It seems a little unfair to the ST doctors of old, who have a lot more character depth and input, to be just usurped and dropped on the “also ran” list.

I’m not complaining though, she’ll make a damned fine addition to my immortal Rev Phlox and fill that MED CMD gap in voyages that so many captains seem to have trouble with. Saying that, a galaxy event after a skirmish is gonna be a bloodbath, I’ll be doing the absolute minimum to get top 1000.

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  • PavelHPavelH ✭✭✭
    They are just new crew. Just you wait until they add some obscure doctor who had 5 mins of screentime (well not too dissimilar to Pollard I guess) with #10 voyage stats and MED primary in 4 months time. Such is the nature of power creep.
  • IronagedaveIronagedave ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    Automaton_2000 wrote: »
    I think blanket event bonuses beyond the second mega are/were unnecessary, but they're not really hogging the limelight when it comes to raw card power. The #1 and 2 Doctor thing seems to be a coincidence.

    I tend to agree, there are still plenty of candidates who could displace the current top spots:

    Commander Carter (another good CMD/MED option)
    Dr Sarah April
    Dr Phil Boyce
    Dr Mark Piper
    Dr M'Benga
    Dr Elizabeth Lense

    Not to mention various possible variants like Away Team Bashir from the Quickening.
    [was on Sabbatical/Hiatus] Currently a trialist at Galaxy SquadronSTAY SAFE and KBO
  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not that I mind the power creep, but I do hate the reality that they have to give it to characters we wouldn't normally care to own, simply to create demand.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    GhostStalker wrote: »
    Not that I mind the power creep, but I do hate the reality that they have to give it to characters we wouldn't normally care to own, simply to create demand.


    I bet the stockholders of the company like it a little more that they do things that make money.......
    Uebermind wrote: »
    I love that Dr. Pollard doesn't even have a first name, and she's made to be one of the most legendary doctors in the Star Trek universe. Artificially inflating the stats of STD characters doesn't make these characters any better or memorable.

    "Tracy"........






    https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Tracy_Pollard
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    GhostStalker wrote: »
    Not that I mind the power creep, but I do hate the reality that they have to give it to characters we wouldn't normally care to own, simply to create demand.
    I want to have Dr. Pollard. I like her on the show even though she is a minor character. As far as stat creep goes, yes her medical is very high and she has a good stat combo but her overall voyage score is just 3366 which is about average voyage score for new cards. Her 1325 medical is great but how many faction events use much Medical? DB could have done far more stat creep by giving Dr. Pollard a better combined voyage score. Imagine though what would happen if there was no stat creep at all. A large number of players would take many events off and not buy any packs. The game would atrophy and die. It is the way of any long term game. I didn't complain when cranky, jerk-to-Data Pulaski had a great medical stat and decent voyage score. I realized that is just how the game goes. New crew generally are better than old crew regardless of what show they are drawn from. Seems like many of the people that are complaining about Dr. Pollard's stats would complain no matter what stats she had and what rarity she was.
    Let’s fly!
  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you haven't seen all of season 2 of Discovery, don't click this:
    Meanwhile does anyone else think it's bullsh!t to have dragged a pretty large portion of Discovery's crew into the 31st century just because a handful of Burnham's friends offered to stay on? Even after defeating Control and ending the threat? This poor Doctor Tracy Pollard is now stuck in the future.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aldude wrote: »
    PavelH wrote: »
    They are just new crew. Just you wait until they add some obscure doctor who....

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    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    GhostStalker wrote: »
    If you haven't seen all of season 2 of Discovery, don't click this:
    Meanwhile does anyone else think it's bullsh!t to have dragged a pretty large portion of Discovery's crew into the 31st century just because a handful of Burnham's friends offered to stay on? Even after defeating Control and ending the threat? This poor Doctor Tracy Pollard is now stuck in the future.

    Not really. Ultimately CBS is trying to make trek fans happy which is pretty much impossible.
    People complained when they were before TOS. People demanded there be a show that takes place after the other star treks. So then CBS does that and people complain that Discovery is not staying in the before TOS time. CBS cannot win with some fans no matter what they do.
    Let’s fly!
  • Emperor Borg Drone (SC)Emperor Borg Drone (SC) ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    (HGH)Apollo wrote: »

    Not really. Ultimately CBS is trying to make trek fans happy which is pretty much impossible.
    People complained when they were before TOS. People demanded there be a show that takes place after the other star treks. So then CBS does that and people complain that Discovery is not staying in the before TOS time. CBS cannot win with some fans no matter what they do.

    That's why I'm in the minority of people who liked season 1 but didn't like season 2 very much. I think they pushed it too far with the fan service and the (often forced) attempts at appeasing the haters and pleasing everyone.
    I hope the show will find some sort of personality of its own in the third season and that the writers will be willing to take some risks again.

  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    Emperor Borg Drone wrote: »
    (HGH)Apollo wrote: »

    Not really. Ultimately CBS is trying to make trek fans happy which is pretty much impossible.
    People complained when they were before TOS. People demanded there be a show that takes place after the other star treks. So then CBS does that and people complain that Discovery is not staying in the before TOS time. CBS cannot win with some fans no matter what they do.

    That's why I'm in the minority of people who liked season 1 but didn't like season 2 very much. I think they pushed it too far with the fan service and the (often forced) attempts at appeasing the haters and pleasing everyone.
    I hope the show will find some sort of personality of its own in the third season and that the writers will be willing to take some risks again.

    There was a lot of upheaval in the executive staff between Seasons 1 and 2. There should be more continuity now going into Season 3. But yes I agree, you will never please the "it's not canon crowd" so no point in trying. Just make good trek and be content. And get more Johnathon Frakes directing, the New Eden episode he directed was my favorite of Season 2. Another tip I would give the Discovery writers would be to not try to do so much. Due a little less plot and have a couple more stand-alone episodes.
    Let’s fly!
  • Just Plain RottenJust Plain Rotten ✭✭
    (HGH)Apollo wrote: »
    Just wait until the new Picard series come and we get his home health aide that gives him prunes twice a day and has medical of 1600.

    That was damn funny!
  • Prime LorcaPrime Lorca ✭✭✭✭✭
    Matt_Decker wrote: »
    (HGH)Apollo wrote: »
    Emperor Borg Drone wrote: »
    (HGH)Apollo wrote: »

    Not really. Ultimately CBS is trying to make trek fans happy which is pretty much impossible.
    People complained when they were before TOS. People demanded there be a show that takes place after the other star treks. So then CBS does that and people complain that Discovery is not staying in the before TOS time. CBS cannot win with some fans no matter what they do.

    That's why I'm in the minority of people who liked season 1 but didn't like season 2 very much. I think they pushed it too far with the fan service and the (often forced) attempts at appeasing the haters and pleasing everyone.
    I hope the show will find some sort of personality of its own in the third season and that the writers will be willing to take some risks again.

    There was a lot of upheaval in the executive staff between Seasons 1 and 2. There should be more continuity now going into Season 3. But yes I agree, you will never please the "it's not canon crowd" so no point in trying. Just make good trek and be content. And get more Johnathon Frakes directing, the New Eden episode he directed was my favorite of Season 2. Another tip I would give the Discovery writers would be to not try to do so much. Due a little less plot and have a couple more stand-alone episodes.

    I agree w/ your tip for the Disco writers. I also would encourage a little more wonder and grit from Burnham and a little less preaching and introspection. Starfleet didn't train you so you could self-actualize. They did it so you could explore the galaxy and defend the Federation. The voice-overs from her at the opening of an episode, for example, should be more mission focused and less self-indulgent. Kirk never sat around thinking about how he felt about something, or how it might change him, he just did what had to be done. Picard just did what was right. I almost gagged when the writers made Pike say how grateful he was to have watched Burnham discover her heart. Please.

    That sounds like great advice for season 3. I will say that Burnham was not a captain when she did the voice-overs, so a little self indulgence is acceptable.... But I think she went overboard.
    One other point is the change in captains. It's odd, imo. Some Trek fans are mad that it's not more episodic. But the different captains is a similar-yet-different way to change things up. And I personally think Yeoh, Isaacs, and Mount did great jobs. I prefer season 1 over season 2, but that's not to say season 2 didn't have its strengths. But I digress...

    I hope they get some structure in season 3 and not take take 20 minutes when the captain summons them to the bridge. Or ask the first officer for crew assignments when the acting captain is standing RIGHT THERE! Oops... Digressed again.

    What will they do in the 31st century? So many options. The rumors about (Gene Roddenberry's) Andromeda-style future bother me. First, because that means the Federation fell. So Picard worked for nothing. Second, because then there would be no admiral to answer to, so it would be all about how they 'feel'. No... Even if they spend all season traveling back to the Federation at warp 7 because Leland's nanobots rendered the spore drive inoperable, I want there to be a Federation to which they can return. Whatever the case is, I hope they explore. And find historic 'teasers' regarding Picard. And meet new species on new planets. But keep a goal ahead, maybe like Voyager. Just don't make them spend a whole season on the same planet like season 5 of Andromeda. That's was truly awful. Anyway...

    There's a lot of potential and even more reason to develop the ship's actual crew, like Dr. Tracey Pollard. I hope they do it. I think Discovery tells good stories. I'd like to see them do it in a way that is more consistent with previous Trek, but it's not the end of the Prime universe when they don't. :)
    Farewell 🖖
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