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No Hologram Trait for Indulgent Seven?

eXo | RamzaeXo | Ramza ✭✭✭
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Considering it's the Doctor occupying Seven's body, why not?

We have much lower standards for Klingons (Mirror Intendant Kira) or Starfleet (On practically anyone who ever participates in any rendition of a Starfleet), so being picky isn't going to be an issue...

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  • <TGE> Darxide<TGE> Darxide ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2019
    She's not a hologram. The Doctor is only a hologram when he's being projected. Aside from that he's just a computer program. So having the Hologram trait would make no sense.

    "Klingon" and "Starfleet" are associations. Intendant Kira is associated with the KCA. The trait doesn't mean she's an actual Klingon.
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  • VesmerVesmer ✭✭✭
    <TGE> Darxide wrote: »
    "Klingon" and "Starfleet" are associations. Intendant Kira is associated with the KCA. The trait doesn't mean she's an actual Klingon.

    There’s actually specific “Klingon-Cardassian Alliance” trait for that. So I believe that “Klingon” should be like “Human” trait i.e. the species thing. But I completely agree regarding Hologram trait for Seven - no reasoning for it.

  • Prime LorcaPrime Lorca ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm with the OP. In the episode, the EMH must hide in Seven because the alien culture is holo-phobic. Seven's association to holograms is something that they are trying to hide, if association is the standard.

    If the standard were being the race, species, or whatever, then being a hologram is pretty central to the EMH program. Otherwise, it's just some interactive medical program.

    I'm fine with Cheesecake Seven the way she is, but it makes sense in my head to give her/him the hologram trait. :)
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  • eXo | RamzaeXo | Ramza ✭✭✭
    edited August 2019
    <TGE> Darxide wrote: »
    She's not a hologram. The Doctor is only a hologram when he's being projected. Aside from that he's just a computer program. So having the Hologram trait would make no sense.

    "Klingon" and "Starfleet" are associations. Intendant Kira is associated with the KCA. The trait doesn't mean she's an actual Klingon.

    If it's associations, why bother differentiating between species and what they actually are. Ergo, why not have hologram be on Cheesecake Seven considering a hologram (the Doctor) is what is "possessing" her in the the episode? It's the entire point of the character in the first place and you merge a HOLOGRAM (and a fairly good one) and a BORG to get her.

    (The fact that I have to burn a pretty good 5* on Cheesecake Seven should already be a reason why she's even better than what you put into her.)

    Being possessed by a hologram is probably more "affiliation" than any other affiliation. It's practically the same level of reasoning of having Bajoran on any Ben Sisko (he was "created" by the Prophets, but is in no way actually a Bajoran) and on the same level as Klingon Wedding Dax or Blood Oath Dax (neither Dax is actually Klingon).

    And the disaster that is Mirror Intendant Kira... To this day counts as a Bajoran, Klingon AND Cardassian in the gauntlet and faction events. Her reasoning is even weaker than giving Cheesecake Seven a Hologram considering she's not Klingon nor Cardassian and not really affiliated either.
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