Why is Prisoner Katrina Cornwell not a "Doctor"?!?!? Not only is a practicing physician, but she actually uses her area of expertise WHILE A PRISONER to treat a PTSD patient........
Memory Alpha says that there are two pieces of evidence that confirm Cornwell was a psychiatrist - dialog from both Choose Your Pain as well as Lethe, plus some comments made by the show runners regarding Choose Your Pain. I think her Counselor trait covers the actual therapizing done while in hack, but these other sources would seem to be sufficient to warrant adding Doctor as well.
Why is Prisoner Katrina Cornwell not a "Doctor"?!?!? Not only is a practicing physician, but she actually uses her area of expertise WHILE A PRISONER to treat a PTSD patient........
Memory Alpha says that there are two pieces of evidence that confirm Cornwell was a psychiatrist - dialog from both Choose Your Pain as well as Lethe, plus some comments made by the show runners regarding Choose Your Pain. I think her Counselor trait covers the actual therapizing done while in hack, but these other sources would seem to be sufficient to warrant adding Doctor as well.
In the episode where you get your very first clue about
where Lorca is from {the triangular hand-held Agonizer scar on his back}
he says he does not trust doctors, and she says she will try to not take offense to that........
She is clearly a doctor doctor. {Her Med for that Card is high for a reason!!!!!!!}
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
If Cornwell is a psychiatrist, then she should definitely have the doctor trait, as a psychiatrist *is* a doctor, in the same way that an oncologist is a doctor, a radiologist is a doctor, an anesthesiologist is a doctor, etc.
If Cornwell is a psychiatrist, then she should definitely have the doctor trait, as a psychiatrist *is* a doctor, in the same way that an oncologist is a doctor, a radiologist is a doctor, an anesthesiologist is a doctor, etc.
I'va been sayin'...........
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
"A psychiatrist is a medical doctor (an M.D. or D.O.) who specializes in mental health, including substance use disorders. Psychiatrists are qualified to assess both the mental and physical aspects of psychological problems."
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
With Katrina Cornwell, under current US definitions, it would depend on whether she was a psychiatrist or a psychologist. Psychiatrists have an MD (physician), Psychologists have a PhD (not a physician). I don't believe that was made clear on the show. One could ask the same question of Deanna Troi or Ezri Dax. I believe the show said Troi held an advanced degree in psychology? (I've found conflicting sources on Deanna's degree in a quick online search.)
If Cornwell is a psychiatrist, then she should definitely have the doctor trait, as a psychiatrist *is* a doctor, in the same way that an oncologist is a doctor, a radiologist is a doctor, an anesthesiologist is a doctor, etc.
Of course you are going by today's Earth standards not the standards of the Federation. But yes, would be cool if she had physician trait but she has diplomat trait which comes up a lot on voyages too.
Every time I put Vosk on a Voyage, I wonder why he doesn't count as Costumed.
He is in uniform because he joined the army and was given a rank and uniform. He isn't pretending at this point like the holodeck or covert operations. His allies may not know his motives but he is fighting with them side by side.
If that was the reason, there are a lot of costumed crew who would have the trait eliminated. Such as, the voyager crew fighting on the holodeck who did not know they were in costume.
They weren't aware of what they were doing, but they were dressed up by the Hirogen. Involuntarily Costumed is still Costumed.
Is it? Mademoiselle de Neuf, GI Chakotay, and Combat Medic Paris are all "costumed", but Katrine, Bartender Tuvok, and Klingon Janeway are not.
Okay, Involuntarily Costumed ought to be Costumed. God, I hope this week's QoL improvements include the Great Trait Audit.
They are not involuntarily put in costume. But clothing to fit the conflict they had been put in. Combat medic Paris is in uniform representing who he is. It is not a costume to him. Nor any of them. And when they come out of control, it is now a disguise.
I do not know why they have to wear costume or clothing to fit the holoprogram. The holoprogram can make them see anything. I know the holodeck concept is ridiculous. But, for it to be able to make people think they are actually at a location it can most certainly make people see other people in any clothing it deems appropriate for the program. When the program is not running the people would revert to their actual clothing.
They have to get dressed up because the holodeck characters can tell if they are out costume or not as their clothing doesn't change. It projects images that makes you think there are changes in the surrounding area and creates hologram characters but doesn't alter what users are wearing. You need projection of images and surfaces capable of dealing with those projections for the environment around them. Their clothing isn't necessarily designed to handle the projections so they would have to wear program appropriate clothing.
Well Voyager blows that theory out the door. Think doctor before mobile emitter.
But, you do at least explain the holodeck. It still is nonsense, if you have crew standing shoulder to shoulder, the ones on the ends shoulder touching a corner of the holodeck. Start the program and have the crew try to spread out the line they are in to arms width, the ones on the end should not be able to move past those corners.
Voyager doesn't really change that. Sure the holodeck is a complete head scratcher but the mobile emitter is just a walking projector that allows something (the doctor) to be projected. Notice how he has to wear it so his program has a link to something that can generate his program. It isn't really changing anything in the surrounding area other than that. Even the extra holoemitters that they added throughout the ship at different times don't have the same capability as the holodeck. They are just fixed emitters that can project an object into a normal area, without changing the area itself.
Every time I put Vosk on a Voyage, I wonder why he doesn't count as Costumed.
He is in uniform because he joined the army and was given a rank and uniform. He isn't pretending at this point like the holodeck or covert operations. His allies may not know his motives but he is fighting with them side by side.
If that was the reason, there are a lot of costumed crew who would have the trait eliminated. Such as, the voyager crew fighting on the holodeck who did not know they were in costume.
They weren't aware of what they were doing, but they were dressed up by the Hirogen. Involuntarily Costumed is still Costumed.
Is it? Mademoiselle de Neuf, GI Chakotay, and Combat Medic Paris are all "costumed", but Katrine, Bartender Tuvok, and Klingon Janeway are not.
Okay, Involuntarily Costumed ought to be Costumed. God, I hope this week's QoL improvements include the Great Trait Audit.
They are not involuntarily put in costume. But clothing to fit the conflict they had been put in. Combat medic Paris is in uniform representing who he is. It is not a costume to him. Nor any of them. And when they come out of control, it is now a disguise.
I do not know why they have to wear costume or clothing to fit the holoprogram. The holoprogram can make them see anything. I know the holodeck concept is ridiculous. But, for it to be able to make people think they are actually at a location it can most certainly make people see other people in any clothing it deems appropriate for the program. When the program is not running the people would revert to their actual clothing.
They have to get dressed up because the holodeck characters can tell if they are out costume or not as their clothing doesn't change. It projects images that makes you think there are changes in the surrounding area and creates hologram characters but doesn't alter what users are wearing. You need projection of images and surfaces capable of dealing with those projections for the environment around them. Their clothing isn't necessarily designed to handle the projections so they would have to wear program appropriate clothing.
Well Voyager blows that theory out the door. Think doctor before mobile emitter.
But, you do at least explain the holodeck. It still is nonsense, if you have crew standing shoulder to shoulder, the ones on the ends shoulder touching a corner of the holodeck. Start the program and have the crew try to spread out the line they are in to arms width, the ones on the end should not be able to move past those corners.
Voyager doesn't really change that. Sure the holodeck is a complete head scratcher but the mobile emitter is just a walking projector that allows something (the doctor) to be projected. Notice how he has to wear it so his program has a link to something that can generate his program. It isn't really changing anything in the surrounding area other than that. Even the extra holoemitters that they added throughout the ship at different times don't have the same capability as the holodeck. They are just fixed emitters that can project an object into a normal area, without changing the area itself.
I guess I should have been clear. There is no surface to reflect in the sick bay. Yet , again before the mobile emitter, the doctor is seen anywhere in sickbay, and can hold objects and touch people.
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Memory Alpha says that there are two pieces of evidence that confirm Cornwell was a psychiatrist - dialog from both Choose Your Pain as well as Lethe, plus some comments made by the show runners regarding Choose Your Pain. I think her Counselor trait covers the actual therapizing done while in hack, but these other sources would seem to be sufficient to warrant adding Doctor as well.
In the episode where you get your very first clue about
She is clearly a doctor doctor. {Her Med for that Card is high for a reason!!!!!!!}
I'va been sayin'...........
Except she IS a "Physician"......
https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/what-is-psychiatry
"A psychiatrist is a medical doctor (an M.D. or D.O.) who specializes in mental health, including substance use disorders. Psychiatrists are qualified to assess both the mental and physical aspects of psychological problems."
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They changed it to physician because they wanted them to be a medical doctor (M.D.) rather than having a doctor of philosophy (PhD)
Of course you are going by today's Earth standards not the standards of the Federation. But yes, would be cool if she had physician trait but she has diplomat trait which comes up a lot on voyages too.
Voyager doesn't really change that. Sure the holodeck is a complete head scratcher but the mobile emitter is just a walking projector that allows something (the doctor) to be projected. Notice how he has to wear it so his program has a link to something that can generate his program. It isn't really changing anything in the surrounding area other than that. Even the extra holoemitters that they added throughout the ship at different times don't have the same capability as the holodeck. They are just fixed emitters that can project an object into a normal area, without changing the area itself.
I guess I should have been clear. There is no surface to reflect in the sick bay. Yet , again before the mobile emitter, the doctor is seen anywhere in sickbay, and can hold objects and touch people.