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Voyage Experiment Worked This Time
Banjo1012
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So it didn’t glitch out this time which pleases me. As you can see, I passed my last hazard at 18 hours 37 minutes. Unless my math is incorrect, this means skill points per hour to pass hazards were at 1163.
And for those who are on the proficiency matters to passing hazards train, Lissan was the one who was responsible for my diplomacy hazards. Here are her proficiency stats
And for those who are on the proficiency matters to passing hazards train, Lissan was the one who was responsible for my diplomacy hazards. Here are her proficiency stats
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So what those of us mean by proficiency is that your 21655 isn't really a flat 21655. Its the sum of the base and proficiency of every crew on the voyage. For example, while I don't know the exact crew you have that might look something like 17300+(1790-6920).
At 18:37, the skill required to pass should be calculated off (1200/hour or 20/minute). That works out to 22340. The theory is that the game rolls proficiency for each player on your crew and adds them up to see if you pass the check. If your crew added up to 17300+(1790-6920), you would have rolled over 5040 (or really your crew would have rolls totaling that) in the 1790-6920 range to pass that skill.
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See I thought that since they showed Lissan for every diplomacy checkpoint that she was the one whose proficiency was used. I didn’t know that for sure, it was just an assumption. And thanks for the congrats. I was just really glad to see you didn’t make a run ;-) if you would like I can post screenshots of the crew I used. Give me a minute to gather it up
Thank you my friend. I thought it would be interesting to see how this played out
Paladin is correct. And if you watch your voyage around that point you will see it vary between success and failure. So there is some kind of RNG/proficiency that is determining if you pass.
I have noticed that before, where I failed one then passed the next so I am on that proficiency train as well. I didn’t mean that phrase in a negative way, I subscribe to that tgeory as well as I have seen it in action so apologies if that sounded negative, I just like to try and find interesting ways to put things. And I did keep watching the hazards for quite a while after that last success so I made absolute certain that this was the last one I passed
So this is the total of the crew. The 21651 versus 21655 is probably from rounding somewhere.
Totals are 17192+ (2955-5965). Roll needed would have been ~5148.
I've never seen a primary skill set that high, so this may be a dumb question, but did you use revivals to get to that 18 hour mark?
Oh yeah. I want to say it took 4 refreshes. Then I did another cuz it crashed at 19:52 and I figured one more refresh would get me two more dilemnas
Wow!! You were amazingly close on your numbers guesstimate!! I guess this shows that my last passed hazard gave me a great roll and was pretty close to the max time I could have passed one
Which explains why it was the last one to pass. A high roll. As of 18:40, the pass rate probably increased and it was no longer possible for a lucky roll to even pass.
I am guessing that DB is actually working with fractions, that we do not know the value of. So Banjo's crew also happened to be on the high side in the fractional part. I assume the opposite could happen, that the number could be lower than the spreadsheet totals.
Edit: I added the DIP numbers displayed for the crew on voyage it comes to 21652. So there is definitely a fractional part that would account for it being 21655.
Edit2: so his last chance for a pass would have been at ~19:17. Of course, the odds of that would have been 1 in ~3000 but that does not include the odds of the favored skill coming up. So somewhere around 1 in ~8500.
Edit3: it would be a rare occurrence to have a hazard come up and only have 1 roll that can pass. From what Paladin said, 20/min., we know hazards show up every minute (note: dilemmas might replace a hazard as well as the finding of rewards this would be two minutes but I am going to assume always one) the best odds of passing the last hazard would be 19 skill pits. If I divide the above numbers by 19 this would be the best possibility for the last hazard so ~160 and ~450. So the odds of passing the last possible dilemma would be in the range of ~450 to ~8500. This corresponds to having 19 rolls to pass it or 1 roll to pass and also of getting the primary stat.
Edit4: based on variance if I were to guess where the voyage would have its last success, I would guess at 75% of the range. Rounding I will just say range is 3000 so therefore 2250. Add the base and min proficiency 20146 that comes to 22396 so divide by 1200/hour so 18:40. So slightly below but not by much. He is basically near the average last pass. Still very likely that 1200 is right.
I agree. It does seem to support that theory. And your welcome. Just seemed like a cool thing to do to see how it played out
You obviously also had incredible RNG on your side + the perfect top skills. This failed one of mine actually had one of the lesser skills come up over 25% (MED) which is why I think it crashed so hard. I forgot to screenshot the final results, but SCI was under 23%, and DIP was under 20%.