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No More All-Immortal Beholds
in Make It So!
The one thing that is killing this game more than anything else (at least for me) is getting all excited when I see a behold window opening, only to find three crew members whom I've already immortalized.
Why would I ever buy portal pulls when I'm likely to only get crew members I don't need? Wouldn't I be more likely to buy more portal pulls if I was guaranteed to get at least one character I don't already have? It's simple economics. If you want to sell more, make available what I want but don't have.
I could understand when the number of crew in the game was smaller that the current odds made sense. But now there are SO many unique crew and new ones coming out every week. Throw us a friggin bone!
BTW, I'm a member of a fleet filled with longtime players, and we've had multiple conversations about the game getting boring. These portal pulls are a frequent complaint. More so than just about anything else. I mean, the thing we all used to look forward to more than anything else in the game is now almost always a disappointment. Why should we keep playing? Much less keep paying to play.
I don't mean this to be a threat or an ultimatum. Just sharing a genuine frustration that is growing stronger. PLEASE fix this ASAP!
Why would I ever buy portal pulls when I'm likely to only get crew members I don't need? Wouldn't I be more likely to buy more portal pulls if I was guaranteed to get at least one character I don't already have? It's simple economics. If you want to sell more, make available what I want but don't have.
I could understand when the number of crew in the game was smaller that the current odds made sense. But now there are SO many unique crew and new ones coming out every week. Throw us a friggin bone!
BTW, I'm a member of a fleet filled with longtime players, and we've had multiple conversations about the game getting boring. These portal pulls are a frequent complaint. More so than just about anything else. I mean, the thing we all used to look forward to more than anything else in the game is now almost always a disappointment. Why should we keep playing? Much less keep paying to play.
I don't mean this to be a threat or an ultimatum. Just sharing a genuine frustration that is growing stronger. PLEASE fix this ASAP!
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I've got most SR's in the portal. There's just a few from the latest update that I don't have. I don't think they can completely eliminate the problem, but it would be nice to see a change to address the issue.
Unless they don't value long-term players and think they'll do better recruiting new players instead of keeping those they already have.
From my experience with recruiting for higher ed, I know it's usually far more expensive to replace a student who drops out than to keep one who is enrolled. I would expect the same to be true with customers here, but what do I know!
My statement was in the context that if there were no all-immortal SR beholds, then I would have finished every SR added to portal this round with my 120-something 10x premium pulls. So after that, there's no way to give me anything but an all-immortal behold.
That's why I hope they address the issue in some fashion, though I understand that there is no 100% fix.
I heard there was a player who had literally every crew immortalized at one point. Technically, they can't even make a 100% fix for legendary beholds because the logic could fail at some point. But that doesn't mean they can't try what I mentioned above - a fourth option or a re-roll to help address the issue. And I want this for the reason you state - to help maintain the existing player base.
I agree, but I also would love to see more begolds in the first place.
I have 110 unopened 10x Premium Portal Pulls right now (mostly from events), because they barely give me anything useful anymore. I hate wasting them for a measly ~1000 honor that I receive in most cases. And I'm far from being a maxed out player: I still have to obtain ~300 crew, yet my honor debt is already at ~20,000,000.
I vaguely remember an older comment stating that they are thinking about improvements with pulls and/or beholds (might have been Shan and might have been back in DB times, I really don't remember).
So, I'm sitting on my 110 Premium Pulls, waiting and hoping ...
There won't be a one size fits all "fix" for this, but I think one "re-roll" would be a fair compromise. Of course, you could still get nothing you want on a re-roll (whether all immo or not), but it's something--a last chance, for better or for worse.
Precisely. I think this would be a nice little bone they could throw us. Especially considering how large the pool has become. The odds of a crew that I need being among the three options have grown quite small. I am only missing 13 of 319 in the portal. (If I counted correctly.) If those numbers are right, then I have almost 96% of SR's in portal immortalized. If my math is right, that gives me a 12% chance to get something useful. A 4th option would bring that up to 15%. A re-roll, I think, would get me closer to 23%. That's a little depressing, lol. If there were no straight drops and only SR beholds, then statistically, only 1 in 8 packs would be useful. Man... sure would be nice to get some sort of solution for this soon.
The logic is easy to implement: before generating the 3 random crew, examine the non-immortal crew the current user has - we'll call this the "usable" set. If the usable set has 3 or more crew, let the first choice be a random selection within the usable set, and the other 2 truly random. However, if the usable set is very small (2 or less) or empty, just reward the player with the appropriate citation, rather than a choice of three useless crew. This will ensure that the behold/begold is beneficial - and when a player sees that big box pop up, they know it's going to be useful - and they will be happy.
Do this, and watch the multi-pack sales increase. It's a small bit of programming to add, but it will definitely improve player morale - and your incremental sales.
In the meantime, I wish everyone a healthy, happy and prosperous new year - may 2021 treat us all kinder and hopefully let us all get back to our "normal" lives sooner than later. LLAP!
Perhaps your choice of merits or honor on a purple behold and honor or dilithium on a legendary behold. They could even make the first reroll cheap - 10 dilithium, then increase every time you reroll. On par with the Dabo Wheel.
Well, that is coming now. Will help a bit but still I think the fully-fused beholds will still be an issue.
-- Dr. Zefram Cochrane, around 2073
^I REALLY like this idea.
Another idea would be a citation option *only* if you have an all FF behold. While this may not work for purples (though I'd personally love it) it should definitely be an option if you roll an all FF begold.
I could see it working for purples too, all those weekends without community rewards, FFing the new 4* would become a whole lot easier 🖖
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Exactly that may be why it's hard to do though because WRG definitely wants people to invest dil in those packs.
-- Dr. Zefram Cochrane, around 2073
This has been mentioned many times. While there are ways to see what you are putting in the replicator, it would be nice if a simpler method existed within the replication screen.