Interstellar Matter fleet reward backwards?

[DCC] bebe has Badgey

Shouldn't fleets with more active captains get more ISM?

robownage

I believe you get 400 ISM when the first 20 have completed it, another 300 when 30 have, and another 200 when 40/50 complete their dailies, for a total of 900 ISM per day possible. But I agree it's a bit poorly worded, it took me a few moments to get there.

V.

so, what if you don't have 20 people?

robownage

V. wrote: »

so, what if you don't have 20 people?

Join a larger, more active fleet? Or try to recruit more people? Same as if you want the other rewards, I would guess.

[DCC] bebe has Badgey

robownage wrote: »

I believe you get 400 ISM when the first 20 have completed it, another 300 when 30 have, and another 200 when 40/50 complete their dailies, for a total of 900 ISM per day possible. But I agree it's a bit poorly worded, it took me a few moments to get there.

Yup, poorly worded for sure.

Zombie Squirrel

It says „thresholds“ and all Daily Fleet targets contain of 3 single goals,
that sum up. How much clear can it be?

WaldoMag

V. wrote: »

so, what if you don't have 20 people?

I am going to try to keep playing. But if this ends up being to big advantage for fleets. I will just keep playing but stop spending money on the game.

DScottHewitt

[DCC] bebe wrote: »

robownage wrote: »

I believe you get 400 ISM when the first 20 have completed it, another 300 when 30 have, and another 200 when 40/50 complete their dailies, for a total of 900 ISM per day possible. But I agree it's a bit poorly worded, it took me a few moments to get there.

Yup, poorly worded for sure.

Oh, that'll be our fault. For not clearly understanding it was cumulative. They shouldn't have to make it clear.....

~peregrine~

WaldoMag wrote: »

V. wrote: »

so, what if you don't have 20 people?

I am going to try to keep playing. But if this ends up being to big advantage for fleets. I will just keep playing but stop spending money on the game.

When starbases debuted, with the proficiency bonuses, this came up. The fact is, some fleets are stronger than others. We moved on & play anyway.

WaldoMag

~peregrine~ wrote: »

WaldoMag wrote: »

V. wrote: »

so, what if you don't have 20 people?

I am going to try to keep playing. But if this ends up being to big advantage for fleets. I will just keep playing but stop spending money on the game.

When starbases debuted, with the proficiency bonuses, this came up. The fact is, some fleets are stronger than others. We moved on & play anyway.

Exactly.

Arnie

I joined a relatively inactive Fleet when I started (around 20 members, with 10-15 inactive at any time). Now I'm still playing regularly (daily) assume I'll need to move fleets to take most advantage of this new currency?

•§ë• Captain Tatem

I think the inverted reward structure was to reduce the impact on casual and less active fleets.

Kadavar

Arnie wrote: »

I joined a relatively inactive Fleet when I started (around 20 members, with 10-15 inactive at any time). Now I'm still playing regularly (daily) assume I'll need to move fleets to take most advantage of this new currency?

I'm the same, the Fleet I'm in is only around 15 active players. I wonder why the move to get people into larger fleets. It would also discourage anyone setting up a new fleet.

Ishmael Marx

If you’re enjoying your fleet arrangement now, then there is no reason to change. A smaller/less active fleet has been missing out on extra chronitons every day. Why would it matter if you also start missing out on some ISM too?

SSR Barkley

DB ... please rethink the fleet tiers. 40 people requires 80% of a FULL fleet to finish all 11 dailies. Most people these days aren't completing dailies, cause it's a chore.

15/25/35 sounds like better tiering. a subtle change but people won't be attacking other members to finish their dailies.

Arnie

Ishmael Marx wrote: »

If you’re enjoying your fleet arrangement now, then there is no reason to change. A smaller/less active fleet has been missing out on extra chronitons every day. Why would it matter if you also start missing out on some ISM too?

Well, can't speak for everyone, but I joined a casual fleet because I assumed at the start I might not be a regular player (think I only joined one for an achievement perhaps?) Over 6 months later, and I'm still logging in daily- the fleet starbase is around Level 30, and I figure there are maybe 5 of us contributing. Given I now have a better idea of my playing situation, it seems sensible to look for something more compatible- casual but active.

I don't mind missing out on a few chrons, as my limiting factor is crew at the minute. I get enough of them through voyages and cadet missions, it's not a huge difference to me. At the minute though, I have no idea how many ISM I can get through non-fleet means (unsure if this has been published) so missing out on 900 a day could have a large impact on my ability to strengthen my crew.

Ishmael Marx

Arnie, maybe you can find a fleet with a few openings that fit your criteria and convince a few of your fleet’s active players to move with you. I don’t think anyone should feel pressured to be in a big fleet, but if being in one helps you enjoy the game more, you should do it. There are a variety of bigger fleets that still play casually. Check the fleet thread and other sources (reddit, discord, etc). Good luck with whatever path you choose!

Emperor Borg Drone (SC)

There are a lot of casual fleets that would clear at least the first and probably also the second ISM achievement. Some of them even have complete starbases.
In our fleet we're discussing among admirals if we will be able to clear all achievements every day or if (and how often) we will miss out on the last one. And we're a pretty casual fleet.
So for anyone who is a daily player it's definitely worth to try and find an active fleet.

Arnie

Thanks both- makes sense. Think the "is it worth moving?" Question isn't specific to this launch, but certainly makes it an appropriate time to reappraise, with the new resources being launched!

DavideBooks

Franks and Beans is the fleet of which I am a part. We have a few openings. We are very laid back, but achieve all the dailies 19 days in 20. We also generally have a goot fleet rank for events. There are many good laid back fleets. If you are comfortable with your small fleet, stay. Otherwise, there are options that do not involve complicated initiation rites and required downloads. Even if my fleet doesn't hit the max each day for this new currency (though I expect we will), I wouldn't switch.

Chuck S Darwin

Space Monkeys, the fleet in which I reside, is also laid back and almost always meets all the current recommended daily requirements for getting a healthy supply of chronitons and HONOR. We are currently full, but have openings from time to time.

~peregrine~

We (galactic phoenicians) have plenty of seats and are very, very casual. Wait, wrong thread, my bad.

SoupKitchen Riker

V. wrote: »

so, what if you don't have 20 people?

Create 49 alts and play with reckless abandon...

Commander Sinclair

robownage wrote: »

V. wrote: »

so, what if you don't have 20 people?

Join a larger, more active fleet? Or try to recruit more people? Same as if you want the other rewards, I would guess.

Very much easier said than done. We have been recruiting in our fleet for well over a year, and still only have about 20 active players.