# Does Pahvan Exist?

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Has anyone pulled The Pahvan?

15x packs = 9x invader 3x Anastasia, 2x Dejarin 1x Adult

Now spent 26k dilithium and all 4x 5* were Adult does Palvan exist @WRG Ben

15x packs = 9x invader 3x Anastasia, 2x Dejarin 1x Adult

Now spent 26k dilithium and all 4x 5* were Adult does Palvan exist @WRG Ben

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## Comments

Thanks can someone post a picture of him as their avatar

At 20 pulls you have a 50-50 chance of getting a particular Legendary.

I did 4x6500 pulls

You have roughly a 6% chance of not getting a particular legendary.

The best way to not be disappointed by a Tuesday pull is to not do them.

No one yet has uploaded a picture of the character as their avatar, or 1st to max @WRG Ben

Playing Since:2018-02-26Level:99Fleet:÷ Battleship Yamato, Squad Leader & Fleet Officer; 17hr, 20min Voyage /wo Refuel; 1546 Immortalized Crew; Highest Event Rank: 8 (God of Thunder)twoin one 6500 pull. Perhaps they gave me someone else's by mistake.Uh, that looks funky. We will check! LLAP

Just get rid of the yellow wash completely. We can easily tell what crew are ready to be Quipped with Continuum Quipment thanks to the immortalized background. The yellow wash is 100% unnecessary and takes away from the artwork. Let The Pahvan be the proverbial straw in this case...

Green is the new blue

These packs are... quite frustratingly-weighted.

If Quark were here, you'd think he'd remind them that you have to let the customer win once in a while so that they come back to the gambling table. They lose too many times in a row, and they just swear off gambling.

12k more dilithium on 650 dilithium packs and eventually got Pahvan #madness

Why are you gambling on something you can retrieve? The amount of dilithium spent would be better used on:

Daily Quantum

Saturday Cadets for credits

Speeding Voyage Returns for more credits, Chrons and honour

Etc

The odds are posted. You have a 10% chance of getting a Legendary. A 3.3% chance of getting a particular legendary in a pick three. Those are poor odds. If you don’t care about money, go ahead and set it on fire. For everyone else I would suggest you wait until you can retrieve it.

The odds of the new 5* are terrible. Unless you're prepared to buy 60+ packs don't expect to get the card. And even then, it's still a gamble.

It takes 20 packs just to have a 50/50 chance of getting the crew you want.

If there are multiple crew(especially 4*) in the pack you need, then it can be worth considering. But chasing a single 5* is going to lead to disappointment.

A couple weeks ago I did some pulls to get a Bella Oxmyx. 4 pulls and got two Belas, 1 Jojo and 1 whatever it was that I already had.

Difference here is you have a 30% chance of getting a particular 4* so the odds aren’t bad. Also getting new 4*s can be problematic. I’m personally unwilling to retrieve them and there’s no honour sale equivalent to them for beholds and citations. I typically only get 1 or 2 new ones a month so spending some DIL to speed things up can’t hurt.

Once in awhile you get a 5* dropped in your lap. Nice but it’s not something you should expect.

Its not a great idea to look at spending on this game as anything more than putting a dollar into a jukebox.

Because I have several dozen retrieval targets and it would be nice to eliminate one of them without having to use up a retrieval?

That said, 10% I'm okay with. IF that was actually true, I'd be down for that. But I've bought 20, 24 packs without getting a single legendary. The odds don't seem to actually be accurate to the results garnered.

I’ve always thought the RNG can be very sticky. A lot of times it isn’t in your favor, but when it is, it’s a lot of fun.

The odds are posted. This is a legal requirement in some areas of the world. They could be lying about the odds although the player base figured them out a long before they were posted.

Just because you missed something you really wanted doesn't mean the game is broken or cheating. I did two event pulls to get my 4th Nausicaan Thug. My first pull got me a Kodrak. Does this mean that the game cheated and give me a 50% drop chance on a Legendary?

Players are frequently very bad at statistics. I see a 10% chance and think that's barely acceptable for an event pack nevermind a Tuesday pack. So I choose to spend my money on things with defined odds. Like retrieval or campaigns. Quite frankly I don't think your average 10 pack is worth it until they start giving more honour for them. I too have several dozen retrieval targets. I'm not going to dilute my odds by wasting dilithium. Those 20 packs won't even give you enough honour to get a citation.

If I was going to set 13k Dilithium on fire like you did, I'd spend 1800 on Saturday cadets for 48 extra tickets and get 20M credits. Buy additional Quantum at 200 DIL each (already buying the 90 DIL). That would get me an extra retrieval every 4.5 days. Alternatively instead of buying DIL you could buy the Quantum deal instead.

Alternatively, you could look at the faction store. For example, there's a Duelist Torres up for sale for 5000 DIL. Sounds steep for a trash character? She's still part of 4 collections and pops up quite a lot for node solving in FBB. I just retrieved 3 copies of her over the past month.

hashappened multiple times in the past.We can discuss probability until we're as blue in the face as Mr Mot (and it is certainly often counter-intuitive - eg the odds of Andrew's 24 packs in a row with no gold is 8%, certainly unlucky but not suspiciously so), it won't magically restore people's trust on things like this.

Assuming 10% chance(which has never been confirmed), the odds of 20 packs without a 5* are 12%. Low, but not impossible.

And I'll note they have posted the generic odds of 4* and 5* dropping in packs, but they have never posted the odds of the featured crew drops. The assumption has been 90% 4* and 10* 5*. But nothing in game ever acknowledges that.

Just my experience, please don't respond, I don't check forums often.