HATE voyages!

PhreadPrime

In all my years of playing I have not gotten a single legendary crew that can only be obtained by voyages.

Any rewards should be instinctive, play the game as it is designed and receive the reward.
Unfortunately, voyages are nothing like this.

They say the rewards are random but apparently not triggered by “luck”. I have been doing voyages daily since they began. After YEARS of play I should have randomly gotten at least one by now.

No information is given about how to obtain them. I have tried many variations of “choices”, including “select all the left options” AND “select all the right option”. Be good. Be evil. Be random. Nothing. Not one damned “exclusive” crew.

The hoops you have to “jump through” are invisible and unlinked. Missing one does not improve your chance of getting another. “Oops, that was the wrong choice this time, but here’s a green you have gotten 6,000 times already as compensation.”

At least make the ones who have been around for YEARS obtainable through Crew Retrieval.

Please.

DavideBooks

I understand your frustration. I agree with your main points if not quite as strongly.

Rantanplan {DD}

You've been playing the game for years and don't know the wiki yet?

STT Wiki Dilemmas

Even if you make the right choice, there is no guarantee that you will win. I have been playing for 2 years now and have only been lucky 6 times.

DavideBooks

I think your final point is the poster"s main point. I don't hate voyages. I like them best. But in 2 years you have been "lucky" 6 times. The poster has been lucky 0 times. I have been playing much longer. I have been lucky 3 times. It would be nice if there was something concrete. It took me two years to get one of the 3-dilemma purple crew. But I knew it was a set pattern and worked every time. Back then, by crew was weak and there were no boosts. Now I can do 12 hour voyages daily. But I can't manage to get lucky more than once a quarter. Or perhaps twice a year is more accurate. That is the problem. When you have one exclusive gold voyage crew, that isn't bad. We have far more now. Some surety would be nice. Or, as many have said, put them into the general pol after a year or so. That sstill gives reason to pursue long voyages for some but lets collectors know they can eventually get it. Personally, the current situation doesn't bother me. It mildly annoys me, but I don't think on it anymore and have a deep crew, regardless. What angered me was the rations, and they have fixed that.

PhreadPrime

I have been to the Wiki and I have all the Super Rares for a while now. Most of them were intuitive choices for fans of the series. My post is about being unable to get the Legendary crew. Even making "the right" choice often fails and there is no other way to get them. You get some idiotic "reward" that hardly reflects the effort.
At this rate, I would have felt "lucky" to get 1 every 2 years. I see that some have gotten all 5. Others have 2 or more of the same one. It's FAR beyond random at this point for me. It seems ridiculously unattainable.
Maybe another Ambassador Neelix or a Smiley O'Brien might help...

Zsa Zsa Gaborg

I’m with you on the legendaries. Literally the only crew in the game I do not have are 3 of those buggers. After a year of 5-6 dilemmas per day, I only got 2 beholds. Seems like that is much less than an even 1% chance.

If they are determined to keep introducing new ones the least they should do is make the oldest available in the portal when the new one drops. They don’t stand to make any money from us if there’s no way to even buy an advantage in getting a begold. Getting an exclusive might make us buy the $25 double the crew offer.

PhreadPrime

Oh look! Another new crew I will never get! Exciting!

Still haven’t gotten any Voyage only crew btw…

SoupKitchen Riker

I can’t remember the player’s name, but a couple of years ago, there was someone who did not get a single Gauntlet legendary until he completed the 20,000 rounds and earned Locutus as a reward.

Crap luck happens, and I get your frustration. I didn’t earn the 4* McCoy from voyages until just this month, and I do voyages everyday. It’d be great if there was a more efficient way to earn those characters, but I do not see it changing unfortunately.

Sims

It took me 20k rounds to get Locutus.

Shaw, Liam Shaw

SoupKitchen Riker wrote: »

I can’t remember the player’s name, but a couple of years ago, there was someone who did not get a single Gauntlet legendary until he completed the 20,000 rounds and earned Locutus as a reward.

Crap luck happens, and I get your frustration. I didn’t earn the 4* McCoy from voyages until just this month, and I do voyages everyday. It’d be great if there was a more efficient way to earn those characters, but I do not see it changing unfortunately.

That happened to several players in my fleet. On the other hand, I had gotten over 5 of him by the time I hit that achievement. The RNG is crazy.

PhreadPrime

Now they’re just taunting me! Lol

Kingchambo

Hello all, I am reading through all you are saying as this is my first time on here. I agree on how difficult and frustrating it is in relation to crew, I struggle to get passed 6 to 8 hour voyages even though I am collecting and improving stats monthly. I feel like I am stuck in the same gear having played since 2018!

Rantanplan {DD}

Kingchambo wrote: »

Hello all, I am reading through all you are saying as this is my first time on here. I agree on how difficult and frustrating it is in relation to crew, I struggle to get passed 6 to 8 hour voyages even though I am collecting and improving stats monthly. I feel like I am stuck in the same gear having played since 2018!

You've been playing since 2018 and can't get past 8 hours? Have you never heard of Datacore? In my first year of playing I already got over 10 hours, now in the third year 12 to 14 hours (without equipment) is my standard. Check out datacore.app and experience the game on a new level.

PhreadPrime

Rantanplan {DD} wrote: »

Kingchambo wrote: »

Hello all, I am reading through all you are saying as this is my first time on here. I agree on how difficult and frustrating it is in relation to crew, I struggle to get passed 6 to 8 hour voyages even though I am collecting and improving stats monthly. I feel like I am stuck in the same gear having played since 2018!

You've been playing since 2018 and can't get past 8 hours? Have you never heard of Datacore? In my first year of playing I already got over 10 hours, now in the third year 12 to 14 hours (without equipment) is my standard. Check out datacore.app and experience the game on a new level.

Agree! Datacore is an amazing help!

PhreadPrime

Still imploring the game developers to alter these devious drop rates.
Still no legendary reward for running these voyages for 14 hours a day. Everyday.

=GBP= Bear

This is probably gonna upset a few people that have bad luck with the Voyage Exclusive crew, but just to prove that it MUST be random, this month alone, on the 4th, 8th, 16th, and 19th of December I dropped FOUR Exclusive Voyage crew beholds!
All between the 8hr and 12hr points. Some in my Fleet have never seen a single behold, and I've now completed the set (not immortalised yet). I dropped Chakotay quite early on, but then had a gap of years (I think - I can't remember how long it's been since Chakotay came out!) before the next.

SoupKitchen Riker

=GBP= Bear wrote: »

This is probably gonna upset a few people that have bad luck with the Voyage Exclusive crew, but just to prove that it MUST be random, this month alone, on the 4th, 8th, 16th, and 19th of December I dropped FOUR Exclusive Voyage crew beholds!
All between the 8hr and 12hr points. Some in my Fleet have never seen a single behold, and I've now completed the set (not immortalised yet). I dropped Chakotay quite early on, but then had a gap of years (I think - I can't remember how long it's been since Chakotay came out!) before the next.

What black magic are you using to get those results? Asking for a friend. 😉

PhreadPrime

This just furthers my point that it is NOT random. There has to be some variable in the accounts that is causing this problem. The statistics do not add up. How do such a few number of accounts keep “winning the lottery” over and over again while others have gone years without a single “win”? The silence on the issue from the developers is … disheartening.

[SFW] Quick Claude

The only real reason I play voyages is for the chronitons. That’s pretty much it.

(ST) Dreadnought

PhreadPrime wrote: »

In all my years of playing I have not gotten a single legendary crew that can only be obtained by voyages.

Any rewards should be instinctive, play the game as it is designed and receive the reward.
Unfortunately, voyages are nothing like this.

They say the rewards are random but apparently not triggered by “luck”. I have been doing voyages daily since they began. After YEARS of play I should have randomly gotten at least one by now.

No information is given about how to obtain them. I have tried many variations of “choices”, including “select all the left options” AND “select all the right option”. Be good. Be evil. Be random. Nothing. Not one damned “exclusive” crew.

The hoops you have to “jump through” are invisible and unlinked. Missing one does not improve your chance of getting another. “Oops, that was the wrong choice this time, but here’s a green you have gotten 6,000 times already as compensation.”

At least make the ones who have been around for YEARS obtainable through Crew Retrieval.

Please.

You get voyage exclusive crew when completing 100 chroniton questions you may get a 4* or if lucky a 5* behold, you'll need to get to 14 to 16 hrs missions. You'll need to play it 24x7 for them to randomly drop.

Admiral Hess

I run long voyages regularly (12 hours or more) and been at it for years. Picked up all of the 4* crew over time, but I have yet to land any 5*. Somewhere in my travels I must have angered the RNG gods , as they have forsaken their blessings upon my weary soul. But yet, I still play on - maybe tomorrow, they will change their minds.

The same gods taunt me in the Gauntlet, for on every 3rd battle, unless I have selected a ridiculously over-powered crew to take out an opponent, I lose. I could have 45% crit chance, with two attributes in the 400-1000 range and take on someone with 5% crit and a single range of 200-600, and still lose. Yes, it is mathematically possible, but it shouldn't happen as often as it does.

I've also ran long series of wins in the gauntlet (40, 50 or more) only to be rewarded with basic mats and a few chronitons. I've ended in the top 5 (and even 1st once in a while) and got nothing special.

But - on rare occasions, on the 3rd battle, I'd get that elusive 5* begold and joyfully add that crew to my database. Now that's random (and appreciated!)

It makes no sense, it is truly random - but I do need to agree with the others: there has to come a point within a player's time and game investment where these rare rewards become less rare to acquire. It is very frustrating, and counter intuitive, to play for long stretches at a time, looking for that elusive crew, and no matter what you do, it's always out of reach. Also, I think that a "voyage-exclusive" crew should be exclusive for a fixed time, and then eventually be acquirable in the Crew Retrieval system. Same thing for the "honor-only" crew.

Just my opinion. Thanks for listening to the ravings of an old man. Live long and Prosper!