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STD Removed from Cannon.

I just saw that STD was removed from Star Trek cannon. Is TP going to remove the characters from the game also since they are not part of the story anymore?

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  • bennybenny ✭✭✭
    From my understanding this is pretty much fake news and it started because of Lower Decks’ final episode which hints at some events that happened in Discovery as having happened in a parallel universe. But CBS, Paramount or the Trek show runners have made no comments suggesting that Discovery is no longer canon. I think it’s spreading around because many would love that to be true and rush into believing it.
  • benny wrote: »
    From my understanding this is pretty much fake news and it started because of Lower Decks’ final episode which hints at some events that happened in Discovery as having happened in a parallel universe. But CBS, Paramount or the Trek show runners have made no comments suggesting that Discovery is no longer canon. I think it’s spreading around because many would love that to be true and rush into believing it.

    Yes, I saw an article about this, as well, and you are correct, it had to do with a Lower Decks episode. But the same article also said that Strange New Worlds continued to be canon, which sort of refutes the other claim, since there was so much interaction between those two shows.

    It was speculated that the reason the decision was made to send Discovery into
    the far future
    had something to do with their (admittedly terrible) decision to make the Klingons on the show look so different from any previous incarnation of them. But whether or not that's true, there's been no official word on canonicity (I thought I just made up that word but it turns out it's an actual word, lol).

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  • Sulu's HusbandSulu's Husband ✭✭✭✭✭
    Me [AUS] wrote: »
    I just saw that STD was removed from Star Trek cannon. Is TP going to remove the characters from the game also since they are not part of the story anymore?

    Doubtful on both counts. Why would they have Timelines' Original characters in the game then?
  • AviTrek wrote: »
    After all this time, when someone still uses that incorrect abbreviation for Discovery that tells me everything I need to know about the person. And it's generally best to ignore everything they say as a result.

    Yep. This is just a bad troll job by someone who clearly hates Discovery and started clinging to one random dude on the internet's theory.
  • Yes I do hate the STD but there are a lot of articles and videos about it and I was just curious. I never considered the Star Trek Disease to have anything to do with the rest.
  • AviTrek wrote: »
    After all this time, when someone still uses that incorrect abbreviation for Discovery that tells me everything I need to know about the person. And it's generally best to ignore everything they say as a result.

    I am not it's target audience and last I checked I have the right to have an opinion and don't need anyone's permission.
  • IceCat wrote: »
    Where did you see this? I find it hard to believe.

    Regardless, removing the characters from the game would cause a massive backlash. People have collected, equipped and in some cases, paid for these crew. There's no way to remove them without causing massive chaos.

    Also, this quote from Leonard Nimoy seems pertinent to this whole debate 🖖🏽

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    Yea but you need to be careful how much you open the mind as the brain might fall.
  • CalhounCalhoun ✭✭✭✭✭
    Me [AUS] wrote: »

    Yea but you need to be careful how much you open the mind as the brain might fall.

    You obviously speak from experience. What an utterly stupid thread.
  • Sulu's HusbandSulu's Husband ✭✭✭✭✭
    Me [AUS] wrote: »
    Yes I do hate the STD but there are a lot of articles and videos about it and I was just curious. I never considered the Star Trek Disease to have anything to do with the rest.

    There aren't many fans of STD'S, especially those acquired on shore leave.
  • bennybenny ✭✭✭
    edited December 2024
    Love or hate Discovery, I think removing any past TV show from canon is just plain stupid and wrong. It creates a bad precedent, changes how we look at new work, and alienates whoever was left not already hating that show.
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    Airlock all your Disco cards Disco haters. More for me. Muhahahahaha.
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  • IceCatIceCat ✭✭✭✭✭
    Me [AUS] wrote: »
    IceCat wrote: »
    Where did you see this? I find it hard to believe.

    Regardless, removing the characters from the game would cause a massive backlash. People have collected, equipped and in some cases, paid for these crew. There's no way to remove them without causing massive chaos.

    Also, this quote from Leonard Nimoy seems pertinent to this whole debate 🖖🏽

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    Yea but you need to be careful how much you open the mind as the brain might fall.

    Your comments in this thread show one of us needs to be careful with their brain, alright 😒

    I responded to what I thought was a genuine inquiry. It's obvious you're just a Discovery hater, and in hindsight, you never cared for an actual answer.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe it's mortar now.
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
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    "In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
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  • imdwalrusimdwalrus ✭✭✭
    edited December 2024
    The "source" for this as best as I can tell is CosmicBookNews, a website which posts stories that are outright lies like this one from a few weeks ago James Gunn debunked:

    https://www.threads.net/@jamesgunn/post/DC7DPRSvuZ4?hl=en

    Paramount's position always has been that if it happens on screen in a Trek movie or TV series, it's canon. And the idea that Paramount would even consider it is ludicrous in the first place because the next big Trek projects coming out are the Section 31 movie and Starfleet Academy series, both of which are spinoffs from Discovery.

    So, yeah, this is bull.
  • bennybenny ✭✭✭
    We're way past clickbait -- we've somehow normalized outright lies.

    That being said, how do we reconcile what Lower Decks showed with the canon? Or do we take Worf's advice and "we do not talk about it"?
  • Sulu's HusbandSulu's Husband ✭✭✭✭✭
    Me [AUS] wrote: »
    I just saw that STD was removed from Star Trek cannon. Is TP going to remove the characters from the game also since they are not part of the story anymore?

    I believe this explains the source of this whole kerfuffle: https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/star-trek-erased.html
  • AviTrek wrote: »
    After all this time, when someone still uses that incorrect abbreviation for Discovery that tells me everything I need to know about the person. And it's generally best to ignore everything they say as a result.

    I feel the same way about people who mispronounce Brent Spiner’s character name wrong. If someone says its “DAH-TAH” instead of “Day-tuh” i know everything i need to know about them.

    Im talking to you, wrg-benny boy.
  • weakinteractionweakinteraction ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, by the logic employed in the "Disco isn't canon" argument, none of the ship classes that the Cerritos turned in to are canon either.

    Personally I'm very keen to see what cards we get from the penultimate episode. And the Anaximander as a ship in a voyage or skirmish event, too, please.
  • Navarch Navarch ✭✭✭✭✭
    benny wrote: »
    We're way past clickbait -- we've somehow normalized outright lies.

    That being said, how do we reconcile what Lower Decks showed with the canon? Or do we take Worf's advice and "we do not talk about it"?

    I think we normalize it the same way we normalized Lily Sloane’s appearance in the prior episode: the Disco Klingons came from an alternate universe where that type of Klingon was the norm in the 24th century. Or you could appreciate it as a nice sight gag.
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    It’s a good show. But for those reading this who haven’t seen the show or only watched a couple episodes or less and gave up. Get a free Paramount + trial and check it out.

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    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • Another option is the local library - they may have the series (or a season or two) on BluRay).
  • Lower Decks being more important than Discovery so far as what has and hasn't happened would be a trip right? It's a cartoon. I don't even watch cartoons and take anything seriously. I doubt it's true but the thought of a cartoon being more relevant than it's live action predecessors is a funny thought.
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