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Thank you DB for...

...charging me the same amount as before but giving me less.
I was happy to see a 100 honor dilemma at the 6h mark..."yeeey, purple!"... well, NO! REPLICATOR RATIONS! Cause those are so scarce...
And when I call them greedy I get censured cause I can't talk bad about DB.

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  • ...giving you less than what? Just because you expected something else doesn't mean they cheated you out of something. You seem to imply that DB snuck in and changed your result from how it "should" have been. Those rewards have been reported before; your lack of knowledge didn't change the reward table.

    The only difference between this and any other failed roll is your own ignorance of possible outcomes.
  • Morbo4 wrote: »
    ...giving you less than what? Just because you expected something else doesn't mean they cheated you out of something. You seem to imply that DB snuck in and changed your result from how it "should" have been. Those rewards have been reported before; your lack of knowledge didn't change the reward table.

    I think it's a banal case of entitlement.

    "I always want to drop the best rewards, always, everywhere, and it's so unfair that I can't insult DE when I don't get what I want."

    "I so disapprove of greed. But only if DE is being greedy. I want a purple. Want want want."
    "Dance with me. For science."
  • So I, and everyone in my fleet, since the introduction of voyages, have had the most amazing luck by always rolling a 4* char instead of MANY other rewards?
    Are you actually saying that it has always been this way? Are you actually that full of BS?
    And how is wanting the same thing and not something less, entitlement, ON MY DIME?
    Kudos to the corps that brainwashed you into thinking that getting less and less and less for the same amount of money is good and wanting what you payed for is entitlement!
    The issue is simple: 3 types of dillemas rewarding 2*, 3* and 4* chars. They were RNG based, meaning that it was "random" whichever lvl of dillema you would get. Now, on top of that, you get a random reward at a random dillema. AND YOU GUYS LIKE THAT! :))))))))

    P.T. Barnum was wrong...it's every second, there!
  • Morbo4 wrote: »
    ...giving you less than what? Just because you expected something else doesn't mean they cheated you out of something. You seem to imply that DB snuck in and changed your result from how it "should" have been. Those rewards have been reported before; your lack of knowledge didn't change the reward table.

    I think it's a banal case of entitlement.

    "I always want to drop the best rewards, always, everywhere, and it's so unfair that I can't insult DE when I don't get what I want."

    "I so disapprove of greed. But only if DE is being greedy. I want a purple. Want want want."

    I AM PAYING! How the hell can you not get that? If I'm buying dilithium to keep the voyage going, how can I not expect something in return? I didn't ask to get it for free.

    P.T. Barnum
  • Zombie Squirrel Zombie Squirrel ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    ...charging me the same amount as before but giving me less.
    I was happy to see a 100 honor dilemma at the 6h mark..."yeeey, purple!"... well, NO! REPLICATOR RATIONS! Cause those are so scarce...
    And when I call them greedy I get censured cause I can't talk bad about DB.

    This is redicilious, really. If you would track all ur voyages, like i do, you would know that there ALWAYS was and is a huge range of what you can get.
    I run voyages 24/7 on 2 accounts. So my tracked data doesn t lie or is coincidence.

    Sometimes i get 40 purple replicator rations for a 6h voyage, sometimes i get zero for a 12h voyage. I even had zero replicator rations at all for 4 straight days, so i already thought DB changed somehing, then nxt voyage i got 150 total for a 10h+ voyage. Same goes for purple crew and chrons, but overall nothing has changed and the average outcome is quite balanced.

    If you can t take how voyages work, don t do them, instead whining over and over....its getting old...really old.

    •SSR Delta Flyers•
  • Brunt, FCABrunt, FCA ✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    Are you actually saying that it has always been this way?

    Correct. Usually you get crew, but occasionally the choice gives you schematics or a 4* casing or whatever. It **tsk tsk** usually but this is nothing new.
  • If anyone has gotten 100 honor AND schematics or 4* casing at the same time, I will apologize. otherwise you have just shown that you can't be bothered to read and you are here just to troll.

    Please, I await your answer.
  • [BL] Q [BL] Q ✭✭✭✭✭
    If anyone has gotten 100 honor AND schematics or 4* casing at the same time, I will apologize. otherwise you have just shown that you can't be bothered to read and you are here just to troll.

    Please, I await your answer.

    I've gotten a single 4* casing from a dilemma in the past the loot varies I've had a 31hr voyage give 238x4* rations and a 36hr voyage less than 100 I'm guessing it's down to the crew skills and a lot of good luck.

    Sometimes a dilemma will grant 30 or more chrons if it's not a 3 part dilemma I don't bother to keep track I just extend voyages all I want from voyages is chrons anything else is a bonus. Now that Erin plans on decreasing chrons from voyages I'll probably not go beyond 12hr voyages I'll wait and see.

    Not everyone is a troll on the forum if someone claims they got x or y rewards from a dilemma and it differs from my own experience my first instinct is it's RNG and not intentionally trolling
  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    If anyone has gotten 100 honor AND schematics or 4* casing at the same time, I will apologize.

    Maybe you should apologize if anyone got 100 honor AND replicator rations, which is what you're complaining about.

    It's been recorded on the wiki, so apparently someone has.

    https://stt.wiki/wiki/Dilemmas


  • NoneNone ✭✭✭
    I’ve gotten honor and casings before. I’ve gotten just casings before. You should consider yourself lucky that you got honor as well. Sure, it’s a bit of a tease when the honor comes up first. At least it wasn’t like most of my voyages, where I only get three 2 star characters for a 7 and a half hour long voyage.
  • Dralix wrote: »
    If anyone has gotten 100 honor AND schematics or 4* casing at the same time, I will apologize.

    Maybe you should apologize if anyone got 100 honor AND replicator rations, which is what you're complaining about.

    It's been recorded on the wiki, so apparently someone has.

    https://stt.wiki/wiki/Dilemmas


    I do apologize.

    I have ran voyages constantly since it has started and i have never got replicators at the honor+chronitons dilemma. This is actually a first, and not just for me. No one in my fleet got this either.
  • "thank you DB for": quick build!
  • I do apologize.

    :o Someone apologising? On DB forums? What is this sorcery? lol.gif

    No shade, BitterDevil, it's just a really rare occurrence round here.
    Level 99. Latest Immortal (957): Chancellor Gowron - October 2023.
  • I AM PAYING! How the hell can you not get that? If I'm buying dilithium to keep the voyage going, how can I not expect something in return? I didn't ask to get it for free.

    I understand it perfectly.

    You have put money in a RNG machine that gives you no guarantee of getting an epic crew.

    You got what you had paid for. It is that simple. Buying dilithium to keep the voyage going was your choice, and it's not DB's fault if you built expectations that have nothing to do with reality.


    I am sorry, but if you find the rewards unincentivizing, then don't buy. People buying dilithium is what keeps this part of the system alive. You supported the system. You supported a reward table that gives you replicator rations.

    Otherwise it's just buyer's remorse. "I could have gotten a 4* crew, I feel that my money entitles me to a 4* crew, I want want want want want, and it's only greedy when DB does it."
    "Dance with me. For science."
  • This is what is known as gambling
    Look it up
    DB Do-Better II
  • This is redicilious, really. If you would track all ur voyages, like i do, you would know that there ALWAYS was and is a huge range of what you can get.
    I run voyages 24/7 on 2 accounts. So my tracked data doesn t lie or is coincidence.

    Well, I track all my voyages as well: I had just below 1.5 purple characters for each voyage on average during the 1st 5 weeks after voyages have been introduced (average runtime just below 8 hrs as I rarely used Dil to prolong) and a 100% chance to get at least one for each voyage lasting longer than 10 hrs.

    In the past 5 weeks, I have had 0.4 characters on average and 6 voyages lasting longer than 10 hrs that have not dropped any.

    Sure, sample size is not huge, but it seems to be more than coincidence. ;)

    The recent note by Erin suggests that we will receive fewer chronitons and - as an exchange - more purples .. well, sure: After they have been reduced considerably, without telling us.

    So, I fully understand the concern of the OP.
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