Dominion Dukat and Captain Kurn are limited time crew. Unless they use them for an event, they will never be in the loot table. Only in character packs
I got a Dominion Dukat from the portal about a month ago.
Are you sure from the portal? I have never seen dominion dukat in the portal. I’ve seen him in the Dabo and in the faction center
Pretty sure it was the portal. Definitely not faction center or Dabo. The only other option would be a voyage.
So on the side, we collect data from other players of who is and isn't dropping. I've personally had Odo drop, so to my knowledge he's good.
For the 4*s, I think there are more than that missing but we are like 99% Warship Chakotay is missing. Kurn too.
There are several 5*s we suspect are missing that should have been in there (Trelane, Ump Odo) but aren't.
FWIW, I think Warship Chakotay is in the packs. I'm pretty sure I didn't FF him during the event and swear I remember adding stars to him one by one later.
Dominion Dukat and Captain Kurn are limited time crew. Unless they use them for an event, they will never be in the loot table. Only in character packs
I got a Dominion Dukat from the portal about a month ago.
Are you sure from the portal? I have never seen dominion dukat in the portal. I’ve seen him in the Dabo and in the faction center
Same I had him 3/4 for ages now he's in the freezer between the Chicago town pepperoni and pineapple pizza and the frozen sprouts
Well Dukat and Chakotay dropping in Voyages is the first I've heard of either droping in quite some time. It could be very safe to assume that Voyage loot table =/= general loot pool when it comes to 4*s or even 3*s for that matter (as Riker has shown up). You are very well on to something here.
For the 5*'s I've suspected but there is either conflicting reports or not enough data: Lincoln & Tain
For the 5*s I know aren't in there: Ump Odo, Trelane
For the 5*s that aren't in there because they were limited portal featured (non-events) but it's due for them to enter: Nyota Uhura (June 1st), Katrine (August 14th), Rura Penthe Kirk (Sept 25th), Smitten Jean-Luc Picard (September 27th), Temporal Prisoner Chakotay (Sept 25th), First Officer Burnham (Sept 25th)
For the 5*s that aren't in there because they were limited portal featured (non-events) and it's NOT time for them to enter yet: Ambassador Soval (11/7), Defensive Phlox (11/7), Satan's Robot (this week), Temporal Agent Daniels (2 weeks ago), Dr Hugh Culber (5 weeks ago), Ripper (last week), Niners Sisko (last month)
For the 5*s that aren't in there because they were event characters and they haven't been added yet:
Lots.
Also if anyone ever pulled from an Elusive Treasures pack, those loot tables are different because they basically let it wide open to pick from anyone.
Warship Chakotay was an event character, so that's also a possibility.
Janeway was not in an event, but I've got her immortalized and I'd have to go back and watch my YouTube videos to see if she came in an ET pull or not.
**EDIT**
Yep, I only got Warship Janeway from Elusive Treasures in Feb of 17
Dominion Dukat and Captain Kurn are limited time crew. Unless they use them for an event, they will never be in the loot table. Only in character packs
I've pulled Dominion Dukat twice from 650 dil packs.
I agree with Frank's initial assertion, from what I've watched, the loot tables for the portal seem different from the loot tables for voyages.
I actually suspect the credit and generic dil portal are probably separate loot tables, not just adjusted rates. If so, then it's not unreasonable to suspect the merit pool to be a 4th table.
I haven't seen Warship Chakotay in voyages that I recall, where I think I got my copies were packs.
I'm also willing to admit I don't remember and got Chakotay from another event, but since I only got 1 Pel from that event and I only see two threshold Chakotay's listed on the wiki's reward table, I think it's exceedingly unlikely that I got 4 from the Plague of Plagues event.
I am not clear if the voyage loot table and portal tables are different mind. My naivety believed they were the same...
FWIW, my naiveté means that I think DB's RNG actually works, you know?, randomly.
But sometimes, I suspect it does not, and it is pseudo-RNG, that produces non-random results with greater-than-plausibily "clumping" and other artifacts, either because of cheapness or laziness of the specific implementation (very cheap built-in peudo-RNG just comes with most OS, poor choices for "seeds" can make even a good RNG clumpy if you're not trying).
As previously noted, I got Agent Harris 3 times in a row as my 4* reward from a Voyage. Not 4 VOYAGES in a row, but over the course of a week, I had about 5-6 Voyages, and HE was the only 4* reward I got the whole time. Somebody else did the math, and that's, like, a 2-million-to-1 shot.
Well, I just got Pimp Tuvok twice in a week, too, on top of anecdotal evidence that this game REALLY wants me to have Telek Armoire (tm), given how often I airlock him. Probably not 2,000,000,000:1, but probably another bit of evidence that DB's "R"NG is anything but....
I am not clear if the voyage loot table and portal tables are different mind. My naivety believed they were the same...
FWIW, my naiveté means that I think DB's RNG actually works, you know?, randomly.
No, we've already proven that DB has different loot tables for different items. there are entire threads dedicated to this, including several iterations of "do the latest portal released crew show up in voyages" threads.
and let's not forget our favorite: Jazz Musician Riker.
Also if anyone ever pulled from an Elusive Treasures pack, those loot tables are different because they basically let it wide open to pick from anyone.
Warship Chakotay was an event character, so that's also a possibility.
Janeway was not in an event, but I've got her immortalized and I'd have to go back and watch my YouTube videos to see if she came in an ET pull or not.
**EDIT**
Yep, I only got Warship Janeway from Elusive Treasures in Feb of 17
yeah, i thought i got my dominion dukat from a voyage or portal pull. but it was from elusive treasures back in august. goes to show, elusive treasures is probably the best deal out there, esp for players with lots of purples. the 10x10 and higher special offers are no longer worth it for those kinds of players.
Also if anyone ever pulled from an Elusive Treasures pack, those loot tables are different because they basically let it wide open to pick from anyone.
Warship Chakotay was an event character, so that's also a possibility.
Janeway was not in an event, but I've got her immortalized and I'd have to go back and watch my YouTube videos to see if she came in an ET pull or not.
**EDIT**
Yep, I only got Warship Janeway from Elusive Treasures in Feb of 17
yeah, i thought i got my dominion dukat from a voyage or portal pull. but it was from elusive treasures back in august. goes to show, elusive treasures is probably the best deal out there, esp for players with lots of purples. the 10x10 and higher special offers are no longer worth it for those kinds of players.
Elusive Treasures?
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
Also if anyone ever pulled from an Elusive Treasures pack, those loot tables are different because they basically let it wide open to pick from anyone.
Warship Chakotay was an event character, so that's also a possibility.
Janeway was not in an event, but I've got her immortalized and I'd have to go back and watch my YouTube videos to see if she came in an ET pull or not.
**EDIT**
Yep, I only got Warship Janeway from Elusive Treasures in Feb of 17
yeah, i thought i got my dominion dukat from a voyage or portal pull. but it was from elusive treasures back in august. goes to show, elusive treasures is probably the best deal out there, esp for players with lots of purples. the 10x10 and higher special offers are no longer worth it for those kinds of players.
Elusive Treasures?
Probably one of the best "special offers" DB has ever concocted.
$25 for 10 4*/5* beholds, including previously Limited Time only crew.
Usually you can purchase twice per offer. It's expensive, but for players further along in the game, where finishing out 4/4s and getting more 5*s is their top priority, it's the best offer outside along with 6,500 dilithium pulls.
if beholds stimulate your septal area, Elusive Treasures is pure crack
Also if anyone ever pulled from an Elusive Treasures pack, those loot tables are different because they basically let it wide open to pick from anyone.
Warship Chakotay was an event character, so that's also a possibility.
Janeway was not in an event, but I've got her immortalized and I'd have to go back and watch my YouTube videos to see if she came in an ET pull or not.
**EDIT**
Yep, I only got Warship Janeway from Elusive Treasures in Feb of 17
yeah, i thought i got my dominion dukat from a voyage or portal pull. but it was from elusive treasures back in august. goes to show, elusive treasures is probably the best deal out there, esp for players with lots of purples. the 10x10 and higher special offers are no longer worth it for those kinds of players.
Elusive Treasures?
Probably one of the best "special offers" DB has ever concocted.
$25 for 10 4*/5* beholds, including previously Limited Time only crew.
Usually you can purchase twice per offer. It's expensive, but for players further along in the game, where finishing out 4/4s and getting more 5*s is their top priority, it's the best offer outside along with 6,500 dilithium pulls.
Two things.
1. I hope they offer that again.
2. I hope they offer it when I have the cash to do it!!!!!!
Scott
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
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Pretty sure it was the portal. Definitely not faction center or Dabo. The only other option would be a voyage.
FWIW, I think Warship Chakotay is in the packs. I'm pretty sure I didn't FF him during the event and swear I remember adding stars to him one by one later.
All Pack Pulls
Same I had him 3/4 for ages now he's in the freezer between the Chicago town pepperoni and pineapple pizza and the frozen sprouts
I got him four times in a couple of hours. Twice from a voyage and twice in a single portal pack.
If I kept all the copies of him I had I could create a Spock clone army and take other the galaxy
I however have never had Dominion Dukat drop. But I assume as you've not mentioned him, then he is in the table.
I am not clear if the voyage loot table and portal tables are different mind. My naivety believed they were the same...
For the 5*'s I've suspected but there is either conflicting reports or not enough data: Lincoln & Tain
For the 5*s I know aren't in there: Ump Odo, Trelane
For the 5*s that aren't in there because they were limited portal featured (non-events) but it's due for them to enter: Nyota Uhura (June 1st), Katrine (August 14th), Rura Penthe Kirk (Sept 25th), Smitten Jean-Luc Picard (September 27th), Temporal Prisoner Chakotay (Sept 25th), First Officer Burnham (Sept 25th)
For the 5*s that aren't in there because they were limited portal featured (non-events) and it's NOT time for them to enter yet: Ambassador Soval (11/7), Defensive Phlox (11/7), Satan's Robot (this week), Temporal Agent Daniels (2 weeks ago), Dr Hugh Culber (5 weeks ago), Ripper (last week), Niners Sisko (last month)
For the 5*s that aren't in there because they were event characters and they haven't been added yet:
Lots.
I don't have screenshot, but I got one of her. Oddly never another one, though. It's been about a year now, too.
Warship Chakotay was an event character, so that's also a possibility.
Janeway was not in an event, but I've got her immortalized and I'd have to go back and watch my YouTube videos to see if she came in an ET pull or not.
**EDIT**
Yep, I only got Warship Janeway from Elusive Treasures in Feb of 17
I've pulled Dominion Dukat twice from 650 dil packs.
I actually suspect the credit and generic dil portal are probably separate loot tables, not just adjusted rates. If so, then it's not unreasonable to suspect the merit pool to be a 4th table.
I haven't seen Warship Chakotay in voyages that I recall, where I think I got my copies were packs.
I'm also willing to admit I don't remember and got Chakotay from another event, but since I only got 1 Pel from that event and I only see two threshold Chakotay's listed on the wiki's reward table, I think it's exceedingly unlikely that I got 4 from the Plague of Plagues event.
Voyage Estimator Tool thread
FWIW, my naiveté means that I think DB's RNG actually works, you know?, randomly.
But sometimes, I suspect it does not, and it is pseudo-RNG, that produces non-random results with greater-than-plausibily "clumping" and other artifacts, either because of cheapness or laziness of the specific implementation (very cheap built-in peudo-RNG just comes with most OS, poor choices for "seeds" can make even a good RNG clumpy if you're not trying).
As previously noted, I got Agent Harris 3 times in a row as my 4* reward from a Voyage. Not 4 VOYAGES in a row, but over the course of a week, I had about 5-6 Voyages, and HE was the only 4* reward I got the whole time. Somebody else did the math, and that's, like, a 2-million-to-1 shot.
Well, I just got Pimp Tuvok twice in a week, too, on top of anecdotal evidence that this game REALLY wants me to have Telek Armoire (tm), given how often I airlock him. Probably not 2,000,000,000:1, but probably another bit of evidence that DB's "R"NG is anything but....
No, we've already proven that DB has different loot tables for different items. there are entire threads dedicated to this, including several iterations of "do the latest portal released crew show up in voyages" threads.
and let's not forget our favorite: Jazz Musician Riker.
yeah, i thought i got my dominion dukat from a voyage or portal pull. but it was from elusive treasures back in august. goes to show, elusive treasures is probably the best deal out there, esp for players with lots of purples. the 10x10 and higher special offers are no longer worth it for those kinds of players.
Elusive Treasures?
Probably one of the best "special offers" DB has ever concocted.
https://stt.wiki/wiki/Elusive_Treasures
$25 for 10 4*/5* beholds, including previously Limited Time only crew.
Usually you can purchase twice per offer. It's expensive, but for players further along in the game, where finishing out 4/4s and getting more 5*s is their top priority, it's the best offer outside along with 6,500 dilithium pulls.
if beholds stimulate your septal area, Elusive Treasures is pure crack
Two things.
1. I hope they offer that again.
2. I hope they offer it when I have the cash to do it!!!!!!
Scott
Protecting the Galaxy's Future from itself