Lack of Expedition Events

Wizzdome

Is there any reason why there is a lack in Expedition events? It appears there are more Faction, Galaxy, and Hybrid Galaxy\Faction events, but there are hardly ever Expedition events much less Hybrid Galaxy\Expedition or Faction\Expedition events. I think that Expedition events are quite challenging and educational. These events teach you what skills you are lacking in as well as how to play the away missions better. I would love to see you (DB) utilize this event type more often.

Jhamel

Purrhaps because they take way more time overall than any other event type (unless you don't wanna score Top 3000). I don't mind them, but maybe there is a reason behind the lack of expo events.

Dirk Gunderson

I felt this way before the Expedition event during the Mirror Universe mega event. There was some nostalgia built up, especially after DB fixed the critical node problem. After I finished every mission with three stars in that event, I realized just how tedious they are. I thought Galaxy events were tedious, and Expedition events are tedious and require a fair bit of planning. I worked hard on that event because I really wanted the ship schematics from the final threshold reward but I hated every minute of it.

Also, from DB’s perspective, Expedition events require a lot of extra writing and production time that just isn’t reasonable to expect on a weekly basis. It’s like writing half of an episode but it only gets used for 2-4 days and then disappears forever, barring a re-run. The return on all that work is probably negligible compared to what they can make off of chroniton deals in Galaxy events and shuttle boosters in Faction events.

Antasil

I really enjoy Expedition events. So I hope we see them from time to time.

Hunter247

The last one was a tedious grind that annoyed a lot of players. I am not sure if they would want to go down that road again

Jhamel

I wouldn't mind Voyage or Gauntlet focused event types anytime soon.

bowdy

I quite like expedition events after they made all the user-friendly changes to them. The last one was spoiled due to cutting it a day short AND sending everyone 6 extra tickets. That was not the fault of expeditions, that was the fault of DB making some blundering errors.

I'd welcome more expedition events - for one thing, you can run any shuttles you want and you can spend chrons and items to level your crew. It's a great event for levelling your crew during it.

Odo Marmarosa

How about a rerun? There are some good ones in the past (Ribbon of Joy and Holograms Are Forever are the next ones that haven't been rerun), and DB won't have to write anything new, just update them to the new crit node system.

Jhamel

The next expedition rerun is most likely on Christmas 2018 ...

Wizzdome

I know they might be a little long winded but they really help you to figure out what you need to work on most with your crew and shows you which of your crew is most useful in the game... I wouldn't mind a rerun. I would imagine they have a template for the events that all they do is change the story line and rewards a matter of editing a handful of string variables in programming would not in my opinion be too much of a hassle but who knows maybe db does everything the hard way...

[SSR]Trollhammeren

Expedition events are right where they belong, burning in hell.

Astrometrics

Wizzdome wrote: »

Is there any reason why there is a lack in Expedition events?

Sure!

They take the longest to make (they require five fully coded away missions, each with usually some ten nodes, each fully worded into a cohesive story) and they probably make the least money (the only way players can bump their score is by buying new tickets, which give one hour of playtime).

Both Shuttle and Galaxy events are much, much easier to make (they require less words and no special mission design) and make more money (both by speeding up shuttles and buying chronitons).


Yes, the reason why there aren't many Expeditions is money.

[SSR] The Iron Cow

The other reason they aren't common now is because of the change with the guaranteed crits. Back in the day, when the crits were NOT guaranteed, it took way more strategy and thought process to plan out your crew. Plus, those with bigger/better crews could actually differentiate themselves from smaller crews without having to replay 100 times @ 100 VP each time.

Now, with the guaranteed crits, many people can crit everything no problem, and the winners are just those who spend time running 100 vp missions over and over.

[OPA] Sky Marshall DaYng1

I think expedition events would be far more profitable for DB if allowed warping of completed missions. I personally do not think that would ever happen as it would open the Pandora's Box about warping cadet tickets.

In their current format expeditions are a grind. Having 2 sets of 3 tickets in a hybrid falling in 12 hrs time frames for use is hoser. The sheer level of repetitive tapping is mind numbing.

Wizzdome

Over a year has past and cadet tickets are warpable.. does that make your expedition idea seem a bit more reachable?

MiT Sanoa

Odo Marmarosa wrote: »

How about a rerun? There are some good ones in the past (Ribbon of Joy and Holograms Are Forever are the next ones that haven't been rerun), and DB won't have to write anything new, just update them to the new crit node system.

I really do not understand why this is not happening. We rather get 5 (hybrid) factions in a row. 😒

Odo Marmarosa

[Mirror] Sanoa wrote: »

Odo Marmarosa wrote: »

How about a rerun? There are some good ones in the past (Ribbon of Joy and Holograms Are Forever are the next ones that haven't been rerun), and DB won't have to write anything new, just update them to the new crit node system.

I really do not understand why this is not happening. We rather get 5 (hybrid) factions in a row. 😒

Or even rerelease them as episodes off the main galaxy map.

Antasil

[Mirror] Sanoa wrote: »

Odo Marmarosa wrote: »

How about a rerun? There are some good ones in the past (Ribbon of Joy and Holograms Are Forever are the next ones that haven't been rerun), and DB won't have to write anything new, just update them to the new crit node system.

I really do not understand why this is not happening. We rather get 5 (hybrid) factions in a row. 😒

Some people are really really against expeditions :-( And they get all riled up whenever one of these topics even suggest expeditions. So I suspect DB has disbanded expeditions for fear of negative publicity :-(

It's really a shame. I really don't need to see an expedition every month, but once every few months? Pretty please?

MiT Sanoa

Antasil wrote: »

[Mirror] Sanoa wrote: »

Odo Marmarosa wrote: »

How about a rerun? There are some good ones in the past (Ribbon of Joy and Holograms Are Forever are the next ones that haven't been rerun), and DB won't have to write anything new, just update them to the new crit node system.

I really do not understand why this is not happening. We rather get 5 (hybrid) factions in a row. 😒

Some people are really really against expeditions :-( And they get all riled up whenever one of these topics even suggest expeditions. So I suspect DB has disbanded expeditions for fear of negative publicity :-(

It's really a shame. I really don't need to see an expedition every month, but once every few months? Pretty please?

When there were so many Factions in a row even the Expedition haters said that at this point they would prefer one over another Faction.

I do not like Galaxies but I do not start a shitstorm every time there is one. I think the people who do not like Expeditions could simply take a weekend off if there was an Expedition Rerun or Flashback...

Prime Lorca

I think expeditions make perfect hybrids. I think I would pass on a full expedition. But an expedition hybrid twice a year sounds ideal to me.

That idea to re-release them as chapters or a new game mode or something is really good. +1 to that.

Matt_Decker

Prime LorQa [10F] wrote: »

I think expeditions make perfect hybrids. I think I would pass on a full expedition. But an expedition hybrid twice a year sounds ideal to me.

That idea to re-release them as chapters or a new game mode or something is really good. +1 to that.

I agree completely.

David Luna

I agree. The expedition events were a nice relief from blowing through chrons on Galaxy events, waiting 3 hours for a fail on Faction events and becoming a hermit for skirmishes. Please -- An expedition every once in awhile?? To Nimbus III with the haters!

SoupKitchen Riker

We need some Expedition love from DB.

DavideBooks

There is another reason expedition events are not used. I've read a million posts about it, but do not recall this reason: crew numbers. Expedition events must be made with the possibilty that most players could at least hope to come close to finish, but where relatively few can achieve all the nodes. But with so many players having 350 or more crew and half of them being high value gold crew, it means everyone gets all the nodes. It would make the top 500 to 5000 players have scores varying by hundreds of VP, not thousands.

Commander Sinclair

Who knows how accurate it is, but we were told a few years ago Expedition Events were the most difficult for DB to setup, and the least revenue.

I would think a re-run would be welcome for even them, so they have a week that they don't have to worry about the event, and work on other future events & things.

I was waiting for one to appear, even as a hybrid during the last Mega, but sadly no...

PLEASE DB - need...Expedition Event...SOON!

Bylo Band

I very much dislike Expeditions, I just want that known at the jump. It would not hurt my feelings one bit if they never come back.

But, given that a group of fellow captains apparently like them, I have a really small olive branch to offer up. The google dictionary wizard defines expedition (noun) as "a journey or voyage undertaken by a group of people with a particular purpose, especially that of exploration, scientific research, or war." Focussing on the bit about exploration, I propose that every new chapter that is added to the galaxy map be coincided with an expedition event; it's a new area, we need to explore it, make some science happen there, etc.

This way, assuming there are new chapters added semi-regularly, Expedition fans will get an event semi-regularly, which is a good compromise I think given how any frequency of such events above semi-regular would be unwelcome by most.

Prime Lorca

I'm all for expeditions as hybrids. And I remember someone suggesting that old expeditions could be turned into regular story nodes. That would be cool too.