Theory on Purple Characters in voyages

[NDQ]Azzi

I haven't gotten many purples lately. Suddenly today, I got 3 by 6h30m. I've seen this steak of luck before so I pressed on with a refill. Now I've got 2 more!

Could there be a "green bar" for character rewards in voyages, similar to the green bar seen during event for the Rare Item reward? I'm going to press on one more dilemma I think to see if I get any more purples.

Edit: just got Mirror Jonathan Archer. Considering extending one more time to hit 12+

Edit2: since coming to post the above edit, I went back and saw I'd got Civil War Worf!


Edit3: final count, 9 purples in about 13 hours, 2 being earned via dilemma

Captain May I.

They seem to come in “clumps” for me also. I rarely get a random one between Dilemmas, when I do it’s 3 or more.

NivenFres

Captain May I. wrote: »

They seem to come in “clumps” for me also. I rarely get a random one between Dilemmas, when I do it’s 3 or more.

I would agree. Once I get one "seed", I will usually see one or two more (don't usually do extended voyages).

[DB:LOL] eXo | Kurrostanza

Related: This may just be observation bias, but I feel like purples on voyages tend to lean somewhat towards unfinished purples you already have.

Yeah, I get the random new purple too, but I've managed to FF at least a half-dozen or more 3/4s, like Dr. Crusher, Civil War Worf and Detective Dixon Hill strictly from voyage drops. That's a pretty large pool of super rares to pull from to get the one I need with good consistency.

Anyone else notice this?

Ivanstone

eXo | Kurrostanza wrote: »

Related: This may just be observation bias, but I feel like purples on voyages tend to lean somewhat towards unfinished purples you already have.

Yeah, I get the random new purple too, but I've managed to FF at least a half-dozen or more 3/4s, like Dr. Crusher, Civil War Worf and Detective Dixon Hill strictly from voyage drops. That's a pretty large pool of super rares to pull from to get the one I need with good consistency.

Anyone else notice this?

No. The amount of new 4*'s I receive is roughly proportional to the amount I need. Its probably about 20-25% chance of getting something I need.

I do expect a couple of troll drops though. I buy a pack to get David Marcus for the vault. Get Marcus. Voyages promptly give me a couple copies of him a week or two later. I fully expect Shakaar to drop for me sometime next week. This is not paranoia. Rilly.

Jean-Luck Picard

I've seen this clumping. Best strat? If you have dilithium to spare and you see one or two purps, consider extending that voyage since you may likely get a lot more on that run than usual.

[KM] WOLF 359

eXo | Kurrostanza wrote: »

Related: This may just be observation bias, but I feel like purples on voyages tend to lean somewhat towards unfinished purples you already have.

Yeah, I get the random new purple too, but I've managed to FF at least a half-dozen or more 3/4s, like Dr. Crusher, Civil War Worf and Detective Dixon Hill strictly from voyage drops. That's a pretty large pool of super rares to pull from to get the one I need with good consistency.

Anyone else notice this?

Yes, I seem to get a higher percentage of useful purples than I should from voyages. Or it just seems that way.

Neems

eXo | Kurrostanza wrote: »

Related: This may just be observation bias, but I feel like purples on voyages tend to lean somewhat towards unfinished purples you already have.

Yeah, I get the random new purple too, but I've managed to FF at least a half-dozen or more 3/4s, like Dr. Crusher, Civil War Worf and Detective Dixon Hill strictly from voyage drops. That's a pretty large pool of super rares to pull from to get the one I need with good consistency.

Anyone else notice this?

You may just be lucky. I tend to get people I already have Immortalized.

Captain Harlock

eXo | Kurrostanza wrote: »

Related: This may just be observation bias, but I feel like purples on voyages tend to lean somewhat towards unfinished purples you already have.

Yeah, I get the random new purple too, but I've managed to FF at least a half-dozen or more 3/4s, like Dr. Crusher, Civil War Worf and Detective Dixon Hill strictly from voyage drops. That's a pretty large pool of super rares to pull from to get the one I need with good consistency.

Anyone else notice this?

Question is, is this because it takes into account what we have or simply that these characters were less frequent throughout the game and they put more in the voyages to compensate?

I'd say I get as many new characters as ones that need completion. Also a lot of doubles.

Irial

I too have seen the phenomena where many Voyages will not drop any purple crew, and then occasionally some will gives out multiples in the 6 - 8 hours range.

Dirk Gunderson

It seems that there may be a random chance getting more of a particular kind of reward than others. There will be voyages that age heavy on crew, chrons, rep rats, trainers, or cash but rarely more than one at a time.

[OPA] Col. Fred L. Johnson

My voyages are usually up to 7:30 hours and I start getting purples only if the 3rd dilemma drops the first one. Those I extend sometimes.
And even other colors tend to come in a streak, if any drops on activities, then there's 1-2 more after it.

RikerWasNumber1

mycroc wrote: »

I haven't gotten many purples lately. Suddenly today, I got 3 by 6h30m. I've seen this steak of luck before so I pressed on with a refill. Now I've got 2 more!

Could there be a "green bar" for character rewards in voyages, similar to the green bar seen during event for the Rare Item reward? I'm going to press on one more dilemma I think to see if I get any more purples.

Edit: just got Mirror Jonathan Archer. Considering extending one more time to hit 12+

Edit2: since coming to post the above edit, I went back and saw I'd got Civil War Worf!


Edit3: final count, 9 purples in about 13 hours, 2 being earned via dilemma

What "Voyages" are you playing? Because after 8 hours I have only had 1 purple maximum since they nuked Voyages. This is the best RNG voyage I have ever seen since it's launch when this was normal for 8 hours.

FutureImperfecta

Dirk Gunderson wrote: »

It seems that there may be a random chance getting more of a particular kind of reward than others. There will be voyages that age heavy on crew, chrons, rep rats, trainers, or cash but rarely more than one at a time.

I've seen this too.
I wonder if it's based on the Voyage skill Primary/ Secondary Combo and the power we put into then.

(Ex Command medical drops fewer crew but gives way more rations when 7000 crew strength is reached on both.. )

al103

All my 4-star drops were either on high-Dip or high-Com. Both before and after change. Take that as you will.

[TUFG] Doctor X

Just ended a 22 hour stint and only ended up with 5 x 4-star's. Only one of which came at a dilemma all other dilemmas were mainly 2 star and only a few 3 star.... probably one of the worst voyages I've had. primarily DIP was 10k+ and secondary CMD was 9k

[QH] Oxmyx

I’m up to 40 hours and most of the 16 fours are ones I have FF. I have 2 new ones and also Jannar and Fierce Guinan. It seems I’ve been having to do one refill every dilemma which is fine. Last one was 525 dil so I probably won’t get to 73 hours if it increases too high. I wanted to try a marathon voyage just for fun.

{DD} Smelly

al103 wrote: »

All my 4-star drops were either on high-Dip or high-Com. Both before and after change. Take that as you will.

That is an interesting observation. My current voyage is Dip/Com. I currently have 3 super rares. However I didn't get them until after refilling at around 7:40 (I only refilled because I forgot to set an alarm and ran out of AM.) I'm also not running my best voyage crew ATM because I'm using my best crew for the current event. I went back and looked at the screenshot of my best haul on a voyage when I got 7 super rares without a refill (~7:30), but it was a Sec/Eng voyage. I'm pretty strong in both of those too, so it's POSSIBLE that the strength of your primary/secondary voyage skills could be a factor in super rare drops. However, correlation does not necessarily equal causation. It could be just a RNG fluke, but it may be something worth paying attention to going forward.

(HGH)Apollo

Thats a lot of purples. I had one with three so renewed it with dil then didnt get any more purples. They do seem to clump though.

Gwilli-ak

I don't know about coming in clumps but I can attest to if they don't come early they probably won't come at all. I went for the 20 hour achievement and didn't get any purples. In fact, since the nerf I rarely see purples.

JeanLucKirk

Gwilli-ak wrote: »

I went for the 20 hour achievement and didn't get any purples. In fact, since the nerf I rarely see purples.

When I went for the 20 hour achievement this week I got 9 purples. So no nerf, just the typical RNG used in this game. And a certain streakyness. Like you said with this if they don´t come early. Cause the same goes with replicator rations for me. Sometimes zero, sometimes they flow nicely...

FutureImperfecta

20 hours and not one super rare ?
That's total Bull Garnish.

[TUFG] Doctor X

Gwilli-ak wrote: »

I don't know about coming in clumps but I can attest to if they don't come early they probably won't come at all. I went for the 20 hour achievement and didn't get any purples. In fact, since the nerf I rarely see purples.

Wow... I guess I should be happy with the 5 I got...

Vaelerys Targaryen

I would say I'm green with envy, but my blood is already green, so...

My own experience has been that I rarely get purples to finish characters. I nearly always get immortalised characters or new 1*s.

Gothardy

You are only very lucky Mycroc !!!

This last weeks i become a 4* every 6 or 7 voyages only, with primary and secondary stats between 7k and 10k so i never use dilithium to continue voyage, also when i miss the return.

KTz

At least voyages should keep count of our existing crew. It will be a nice way of spending dilithium in game.