I knew that I should have waited for the portal to be updated...

Jim Steele

Two packs, two beholds. Just glad that they were freebies. Really no point me wasting money on the game anymore..

Astrometrics

Yes, you should have.

[PAaA] Admiral Spear

Just barely reached half crew immortalized and I have been receiving these for a few months now.

Cant even buy offers anymore.

Secret Journey

It’s a dogs breakfast

K Han Solo Ng & Thank4 All Dtea

Jim Steele wrote: »

Two packs, two beholds. Just glad that they were freebies. Really no point me wasting money on the game anymore..

Same here. Last two beholds. Maaan

Zetterbeard

Don't bother waiting. They aren't updating the portal any time soon.

Zombie Squirrel

I had TWO all maxed 5/5 Legendary beholds. Thats when it really hurts.

[BL] C6pilot

Zetterbeard wrote: »

Don't bother waiting. They aren't updating the portal any time soon.

And you know this, how?

Ace Boogie

The more you spend the less value overtime. Very strange model.

That being said, there is HUGE value in the beginning gging. Makes all the difference in the world. They it tails off fast.

I’m not that big of a spender but a couple months ago I realized this games diminishing returns. Rock bottom for me was $50 all Behold pack. Slips my mind but I got no legendary and %50 duplicates. Now I barely spend at all.

You would think they would find a way to reward spenders a little bit more

Cal.me.Ishmal

I still think the first major "Frak you" to us players was the voyages nerf. Either DB did this on purpose to "frak" is paying members, or db fired all the real developers, and are confused. When people spend money on better crew, so they can go longer to get better rewards, but then DB nerfs all rewards after the longer shuttles. making it seem stupid to even want to try to get better crew.

Captain_Who

Cal.me.Ishmal wrote: »

I still think the first major "Frak you" to us players was the voyages nerf. Either DB did this on purpose to "frak" is paying members, or db fired all the real developers, and are confused. When people spend money on better crew, so they can go longer to get better rewards, but then DB nerfs all rewards after the longer shuttles. making it seem stupid to even want to try to get better crew.

DB has inexperienced and inept upper level management. Firing your good talent because they cost more than your useless talent is never a wise move. Then shooting yourself in the foot because you don't want to divert one dev for one day to update your primary revenue stream is just plain foolish. Lying to your base about changes because you want them to purchase more of what you nerfed doesn't build good will or trust. Making promises, then going dark and ignoring your whales and cheerleaders for 3 months is never a winning strategy. Pretending a CCG is NOT a CCG, and limiting the ability to COLLECT is just plain idiotic. Removing game play modes, and running the same two events ad nauseam and boring your players to tears is not a recipe for player retention.

There are a hundred good games out there making 10,000 times more money. Maybe looking at how they work and asking them for some tips might be a good idea. Letting pride and ego stop you from admitting mistakes and updating game play might not be such a good idea.

Unfortunately I fear we've come to the point that without another round of venture capital funding, DB doesn't have the money to hire back talent to fix this. And without the ability to show enough revenue growth, getting the VCs to invest is difficult. I think the only thing that has much hope is for Raddof to appoint a new president and project manager to make radical changes.

Zetterbeard

[DB-DO BETTER] [BL] C6pilot wrote: »

Zetterbeard wrote: »

Don't bother waiting. They aren't updating the portal any time soon.

And you know this, how?

Well, when was the regular pool updated last?

At the very least, these updates should be bi-monthly.

GhostStalker

RikerWasNumber1

Captain_Who wrote: »

Cal.me.Ishmal wrote: »

I still think the first major "Frak you" to us players was the voyages nerf. Either DB did this on purpose to "frak" is paying members, or db fired all the real developers, and are confused. When people spend money on better crew, so they can go longer to get better rewards, but then DB nerfs all rewards after the longer shuttles. making it seem stupid to even want to try to get better crew.

DB has inexperienced and inept upper level management. Firing your good talent because they cost more than your useless talent is never a wise move. Then shooting yourself in the foot because you don't want to divert one dev for one day to update your primary revenue stream is just plain foolish. Lying to your base about changes because you want them to purchase more of what you nerfed doesn't build good will or trust. Making promises, then going dark and ignoring your whales and cheerleaders for 3 months is never a winning strategy. Pretending a CCG is NOT a CCG, and limiting the ability to COLLECT is just plain idiotic. Removing game play modes, and running the same two events ad nauseam and boring your players to tears is not a recipe for player retention.

There are a hundred good games out there making 10,000 times more money. Maybe looking at how they work and asking them for some tips might be a good idea. Letting pride and ego stop you from admitting mistakes and updating game play might not be such a good idea.

Unfortunately I fear we've come to the point that without another round of venture capital funding, DB doesn't have the money to hire back talent to fix this. And without the ability to show enough revenue growth, getting the VCs to invest is difficult. I think the only thing that has much hope is for Raddof to appoint a new president and project manager to make radical changes.

You're absolutely right. What is the point of caring about what ships you have if arena and voyages are broken and the rewards don't matter. I know all the noobies will chime in now with "I get a lot from voyages" well that's great for you noobs that spend $10 a month. Those of us who support DB by spending hundreds a month don't give a crap about getting a few hundred honor worth of useless crew and 200 chrons that will last us 10 minutes of game play. When you run a voyage with all 5/5 immortals on a 5/5 ship you want more than a copy of prisoner McCoy, Ensign Vorik, and Command Wrap Kirk that will be tossed out the airlock because they were immortalized 18 months ago. What am I a whale winning in arena? Schematics of ships I've maxed a long time ago? Lets talk gauntlet. Let me play gauntlet and see every person using Mirror Picard, Kortar, Borg Queen, and other freebies. My hard earned 5/5 which I spent money on is overshadowed by free 2 play people all having a mirror Picard which beats most 5/5s. The only 4*s I am missing are the ones that are featured new in the current week's event so the standard premium pull is a worthless thing to me. When we have galaxy events and everyone gets a free 10x premium I don't care because it is just going to spit out honor for which the honor store has been empty for months since I got Khaless. The game has become boring and not maintained.

[7TW] UnkieB

Zetterbeard wrote: »

Well, when was the regular pool updated last?

DB said it was updated October 11th, 2017...

...they screwed that up and it ultimately was really updated October 18th.

At the very least, these updates should be bi-monthly.

Which it how often they said it would be updated (with the caveat that a few certain toons might not be added). They've never managed to come through on that through. I don't think they've once updated the portal without much prompting from the community although I could be wrong.

Captain_Who

It should be updated monthly, at least, with anything 90+ days old being added. This is TRIVIAL to automate. The fact that it is 1) not updated, and 2) not automated, shows that management is intentionally placing priorities other places. This could be a foolish misunderstanding of spending mechanics and customer satisfaction, a misreading of data and statistics, or pride and spite for customers trying to push their idea onto the population.

Ace Boogie

Agreed. I don’t even spend hundreds a month and the portal back is completely useless. If I’m lucky I pull a legendary every couple months.

•RIVIN•

RikerWasNumber1 wrote: »

Captain_Who wrote: »

Cal.me.Ishmal wrote: »

I still think the first major "Frak you" to us players was the voyages nerf. Either DB did this on purpose to "frak" is paying members, or db fired all the real developers, and are confused. When people spend money on better crew, so they can go longer to get better rewards, but then DB nerfs all rewards after the longer shuttles. making it seem stupid to even want to try to get better crew.

DB has inexperienced and inept upper level management. Firing your good talent because they cost more than your useless talent is never a wise move. Then shooting yourself in the foot because you don't want to divert one dev for one day to update your primary revenue stream is just plain foolish. Lying to your base about changes because you want them to purchase more of what you nerfed doesn't build good will or trust. Making promises, then going dark and ignoring your whales and cheerleaders for 3 months is never a winning strategy. Pretending a CCG is NOT a CCG, and limiting the ability to COLLECT is just plain idiotic. Removing game play modes, and running the same two events ad nauseam and boring your players to tears is not a recipe for player retention.

There are a hundred good games out there making 10,000 times more money. Maybe looking at how they work and asking them for some tips might be a good idea. Letting pride and ego stop you from admitting mistakes and updating game play might not be such a good idea.

Unfortunately I fear we've come to the point that without another round of venture capital funding, DB doesn't have the money to hire back talent to fix this. And without the ability to show enough revenue growth, getting the VCs to invest is difficult. I think the only thing that has much hope is for Raddof to appoint a new president and project manager to make radical changes.

You're absolutely right. What is the point of caring about what ships you have if arena and voyages are broken and the rewards don't matter. I know all the noobies will chime in now with "I get a lot from voyages" well that's great for you noobs that spend $10 a month. Those of us who support DB by spending hundreds a month don't give a crap about getting a few hundred honor worth of useless crew and 200 chrons that will last us 10 minutes of game play. When you run a voyage with all 5/5 immortals on a 5/5 ship you want more than a copy of prisoner McCoy, Ensign Vorik, and Command Wrap Kirk that will be tossed out the airlock because they were immortalized 18 months ago. What am I a whale winning in arena? Schematics of ships I've maxed a long time ago? Lets talk gauntlet. Let me play gauntlet and see every person using Mirror Picard, Kortar, Borg Queen, and other freebies. My hard earned 5/5 which I spent money on is overshadowed by free 2 play people all having a mirror Picard which beats most 5/5s. The only 4*s I am missing are the ones that are featured new in the current week's event so the standard premium pull is a worthless thing to me. When we have galaxy events and everyone gets a free 10x premium I don't care because it is just going to spit out honor for which the honor store has been empty for months since I got Khaless. The game has become boring and not maintained.

First-world problems.....

RikerWasNumber1

Opposed to the non-first world problems discussed on this forum? This forum is nothing but first world issues.