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Should the borg be a faction?

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edited October 2017 in The Bridge
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Should the borg be a faction? 147 votes

Yes
77%
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No
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  • TP do better!! ~Colli~ (PoF)TP do better!! ~Colli~ (PoF) ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes
    I think so, they have enough borg characters
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  • [FF] Vice Admiral Nairne[FF] Vice Admiral Nairne ✭✭✭✭
    Yes
    Yes, but with a caveat: the faction should *not* be the Borg collective. Rather it should be labeled as either Unimatrix Zero or the less specific Borg Resistance.
  • [TFA] Celeres[TFA] Celeres ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    Yes
    Qualified yes. Was going to post exactly what Vice Admiral Nairne posted---it needs to be the Unimatrix Zero resistance---having the Dominion as a faction is borderline questionable enough, but I don't see how they could possibly add the Collective and ever cube that sphere.
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  • TP do better!! ~Colli~ (PoF)TP do better!! ~Colli~ (PoF) ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes
    Why say all that? It's not like the other factions have special names
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  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    No
    The Collective [LC] wrote: »
    Why say all that? It's not like the other factions have special names

    To make it make sense. And others do qualify, like the different Ferengis
  • Captain DurfCaptain Durf ✭✭✭
    Yes
    I don’t know if it really matters anymore. It should have been done before the Borg mega-event started, and it should have dropped all those items that every Borg character needed multiple quantities of.
  • KaiteeKaitee ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes
    Conditional yes - if it's just dropped into the game one day, using whatever Borg are lying around doing nothing, that's kinda lazy. But if it's something more interesting - take advantage of the whole multiple timelines thing, like the Ferengi have got Kazon mercs working for them, and the Dominion and Xindi are getting along, so maybe there's a timeline where there's a Borg 'nation' of free Borg (and in this timeline characters like the Queen and Drone Seven and Locutus are part of it) which has made alliances with some of the other miscellaneous Delta Quadrant natives, like Tash and Danara and Think Tank Guy and so on, if they're not already tied to one of the existing factions. Could be a fun episode if they ever want to do that.
  • (CSF) Jesus Is Lord [••••](CSF) Jesus Is Lord [••••] ✭✭✭✭✭
    No
    Admitidly it would be cool but it would be uncannon since anything the Borg see is assimilated, wether they come to you or you come to them (or their faction). So going to see if they have anything available for purchase could end you up assimialted...dun du duuuuu!
  • AstrometricsAstrometrics ✭✭✭
    No
    No. Please stop the degrading and weakening of the Borg.
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  • KTzKTz ✭✭✭
    Yes
    Borg/Xindi/Breen
  • Zombie Squirrel Zombie Squirrel ✭✭✭✭✭
    No
    No, we don t need another faction, which will probably come along with more "faction only" items, we will see in new builds. NO THX!
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  • [CAB595] Emrys Myrddin[CAB595] Emrys Myrddin ✭✭
    No
    The borg to not trade, they assimilate. Much as I'd like a shop to buy Borg items etc I still can't see it being true to the 'species'.
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  • DeesNutzDeesNutz ✭✭
    [CAB595] Emrys Myrddin wrote: »
    The borg to not trade, they assimilate. Much as I'd like a shop to buy Borg items etc I still can't see it being true to the 'species'.

    I'm sure they don't do poetry night either, though voyages suggest otherwise.
  • Peachtree RexPeachtree Rex ✭✭✭✭✭
    No
    The Borg Collective should NOT be a faction. There's no way they would ever talk or negotiate with another group.

    However, I could see an argument that Unimatrix Zero could be.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    No
    Peachtree Rex wrote: »
    The Borg Collective should NOT be a faction. There's no way they would ever talk or negotiate with another group.

    However, I could see an argument that Unimatrix Zero could be.

    Didn't Janeway negotiate with the Borg in Scorpion?
  • C-NoteC-Note ✭✭
    No
    No. The Borg are bad guys. Period.
  • [10F] NewtonianQBalls[10F] NewtonianQBalls ✭✭✭✭✭
    No
    The Borg encompasses all factions.
  • eXo|cuzspicyeXo|cuzspicy ✭✭✭
    Yes
    C-Note wrote: »
    No. The Borg are bad guys. Period.

    Cuz the Dominion and Hirogen were pillars of goodness.

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  • IvanstoneIvanstone ✭✭✭✭✭
    eXo|cuzspicy wrote: »
    C-Note wrote: »
    No. The Borg are bad guys. Period.

    Cuz the Dominion and Hirogen were pillars of goodness.

    But they could be negotiated with. The Borg were almost impossible to negotiate with.
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  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    Didn't Janeway negotiate with the Borg in Scorpion?

    I think that was addressed here:
    Astrometrics wrote: »
    No. Please stop the degrading and weakening of the Borg.

  • sorinevsorinev ✭✭✭
    Yes
    I was going to say yes, Borg faction, so I can be "Honored" with the Borg. Whatever that might mean. But, grudgingly, yes I guess it should be Borg Resistance or Unimatrix Zero or some other such thing.

    As for Janeway, well the Borg were desperate. They were getting their butts kicked and had no way in the foreseeable future to win. The borg were already weakened beyond all recovery once First Contact introduced the Queen. They were MUCH scarier and more menacing before that. After that they became just another "kill the leader, all done. derpy derp" enemy.
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  • cannabinationcannabination ✭✭✭
    "Unimatrix Zero" should be a faction. "The Borg" should always be evil.
    Maybe the irony is that we play because we’re Star Trek fans, those hopeful idealists that like to think things will get better when we raise valid concerns about fairness and balance, etc and we forget that DB’s greed openly mocks the values espoused by the franchise they have a license for.
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  • dwhisperdwhisper ✭✭
    Yes
    It should be the Cooperative... we already have a character from it in Riley, and it opens up some interesting things in the mix (Orum, the Romulan, and Jacked-in Chakotay). There are some directions you could take with it that are somewhat non-canon but us canon things, like putting the Unimatrix Zero people into the same mix after they left.
  • Prosper_0Prosper_0 ✭
    No
    No Borg faction. The borg do not cooperate. Unimatrix zero - maybe. But first, kill the Hirogen faction - they're a minor power at best - and unite the two seperate ferengi factions.
  • ClanofClanof ✭✭✭
    No
    dwhisper wrote: »
    It should be the Cooperative... we already have a character from it in Riley, and it opens up some interesting things in the mix (Orum, the Romulan, and Jacked-in Chakotay). There are some directions you could take with it that are somewhat non-canon but us canon things, like putting the Unimatrix Zero people into the same mix after they left.

    Actually that's a good idea, I like the Co-operative as a faction much more than Unimatrix Zero.
  • [SFW] Quick Claude[SFW] Quick Claude ✭✭✭✭
    No
    The Borg don't trade.
  • Ricard Daystrom Ricard Daystrom ✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    Yes
    I know the Borg don't trade, but we could find a way to make it work. What if it wasn't called a Faction? They could make it a thing like Salvage, You go to this place to buy salvaged Borg parts for your Borg characters.
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  • NivenFresNivenFres ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    Yes
    I think there should be a Rogue Borg faction. This would mostly represent freed characters like Hugh, Riley Frazier, and Icheb.
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  • Lady GaghgaghLady Gaghgagh ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    Peachtree Rex wrote: »
    The Borg Collective should NOT be a faction. There's no way they would ever talk or negotiate with another group.

    However, I could see an argument that Unimatrix Zero could be.

    Didn't Janeway negotiate with the Borg in Scorpion?

    Yup. They do negotiate, it just has to be a high price.
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  • [10F] Captain Lerysh[10F] Captain Lerysh ✭✭
    Yes
    If I can stomach doing faction missions for the Terran Empire, I can stomach doing faction missions for the Borg. Plus I'm running around in a Borg Cube full of Borg drones anyway. May as well make it an official faction.
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