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Since when there were holoprograms in 2250? Maybe i'm missing something, but the first time they appeared as StarFleet tech was in TNG, and that's 1 century later...so...are you saying that Tyler is actually from the future?
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  • I just started gearing him...I think he is the most difficult character I had to gear yet...Usually I get to level 80 within only a few hours, but this guy is just a pain!
  • Lol. The discovery lot are eating casing like no tomorrow. So much casing in uniforms they must be like 50% metal.
  • Discovery is Section 31 after all, so all the advanced tech prototypes, etc. are theirs for the wanting. :wink:
    I want to become a Dilionaire...
  • For the same reason why Crewman Tarses needs A Briefing Video with Neelix!
  • For the same reason why Crewman Tarses needs A Briefing Video with Neelix!

    Oh! That's why! Now I remember the enterprise episode where Neelix briefed Tarses on Tyler's holoprogram. Forgot that one!
  • Odo MarmarosaOdo Marmarosa ✭✭✭✭✭
    In Enterprise didn't they encounter a species that had hologram technology? I can believe the tech was availble in Discovery, but wasnt developed into full interactive holodecks untill TNG.
  • In Enterprise didn't they encounter a species that had hologram technology? I can believe the tech was availble in Discovery, but wasnt developed into full interactive holodecks untill TNG.

    encountering it and developing it are two different issues. Even in TOS it was an alien tech.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    Since when there were holoprograms in 2250? Maybe i'm missing something, but the first time they appeared as StarFleet tech was in TNG, and that's 1 century later...so...are you saying that Tyler is actually from the future?

    Same place that Latinum was gotten pre-official Ferrengi meeitng. (Remember Picard talking about the new Species and the official first contact?-- That's why I hate Enterpise too)
  • Glad to see I'm not the only one finding him a pain. Part of it is that I spent every available chroniton on the event until I got the fourth copy, but still. Every piece of equipment he needs is another branching hydra!

    On the bright side, it's mostly because he eats up so much stuff, not because the stuff he needs is hard to get. Then again I'm only at level 50. Fingers crossed!
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    Not even bothering to level him up at this point as TKrapper is covering Sec and Cmd for the galaxy. Might try to get him up higher for final event if I finish off Blood Oath Dax first.
  • Capt. ChaosCapt. Chaos ✭✭✭✭✭
    I haven't touch him yet, but might just save myself some pain and airlock him. I keep hoping for a worthwhile crew member from Discovery, but it's not looking good.
  • I haven't touch him yet, but might just save myself some pain and airlock him. I keep hoping for a worthwhile crew member from Discovery, but it's not looking good.

    They were simple folks, which is why they are all two-stat. Tilly is pretty good, and Stamets fills an under-represented attribute combination.
    Maybe the irony is that we play because we’re Star Trek fans, those hopeful idealists that like to think things will get better when we raise valid concerns about fairness and balance, etc and we forget that DB’s greed openly mocks the values espoused by the franchise they have a license for.
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  • Since when there were holoprograms in 2250? Maybe i'm missing something, but the first time they appeared as StarFleet tech was in TNG, and that's 1 century later...so...are you saying that Tyler is actually from the future?

    They've already used holo communications in Discovery, so whilst there won't be holodecks, they've some holo technology.

    I'm actually happy they've not been boneheaded and restricted themselves to TOS tech, as TOS was 23rd century tech from the viewpoint of the limitations of the 1960's.

    50 years on, we're seeing 23rd century as tech as viewed from the limitations of late 2010's technologies.
  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    The big question is what's DB going to do when Ash Tyler turns out to be a secret Augmented Klingon. Perhaps add the "Augment" and "Undercover operative" stats? :)
  • [RO]BitterDevil[RO]BitterDevil ✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    furyd wrote: »
    Since when there were holoprograms in 2250? Maybe i'm missing something, but the first time they appeared as StarFleet tech was in TNG, and that's 1 century later...so...are you saying that Tyler is actually from the future?

    They've already used holo communications in Discovery, so whilst there won't be holodecks, they've some holo technology.

    I'm actually happy they've not been boneheaded and restricted themselves to TOS tech, as TOS was 23rd century tech from the viewpoint of the limitations of the 1960's.

    50 years on, we're seeing 23rd century as tech as viewed from the limitations of late 2010's technologies.

    that's the thing, holo comunication is to holoprograms as tv is to EVE Online. And to overhaul the early 23rd century to fit with the new view of tech evolution...that would mean overhauling Star Trek, changing the timeline...AGAIN!

    And, although i love the kelvin timeline...I don't wanna watch Flash in Space :))
  • garnergarner ✭✭✭
    I haven't touch him yet, but might just save myself some pain and airlock him. I keep hoping for a worthwhile crew member from Discovery, but it's not looking good.

    They were simple folks, which is why they are all two-stat. Tilly is pretty good, and Stamets fills an under-represented attribute combination.

    We have had a string of very strong base crew. Sure they are two stat only, which means they are less useful for voyages. But they have strong base skills, so are good for shuttles. But if you don't like golds with super high bases (Lorca & Tilly), and 3 purples over 800, two of which were on SCI is very useful. Saru in particular has great mission stats for purple.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    furyd wrote: »
    Since when there were holoprograms in 2250? Maybe i'm missing something, but the first time they appeared as StarFleet tech was in TNG, and that's 1 century later...so...are you saying that Tyler is actually from the future?

    They've already used holo communications in Discovery, so whilst there won't be holodecks, they've some holo technology.

    I'm actually happy they've not been boneheaded and restricted themselves to TOS tech, as TOS was 23rd century tech from the viewpoint of the limitations of the 1960's.

    50 years on, we're seeing 23rd century as tech as viewed from the limitations of late 2010's technologies.

    They didn't have to do a show in this era either.
  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    Exactly, the "Spore Drive" would have been as interesting and relevant a plot device in 2410 as in 2254. And they wouldn't have had to "modernize continuity" to do it.
  • KaiteeKaitee ✭✭✭✭✭
    They had a holodeck-ish setup in the red room on the animated series, and since we've got Arex we can't entirely discount that. Honestly I feel like it creates fewer problems to just assume that Riker and Picard in TNG season one only just discovered holodecks because the 1701-D was the first time there was one on their actual ship - like thinking "video games" still means Pac Man just because nobody's ever sat their clueless butt down in front of Dragon Age. Everyone else had been using holodecks every time they stopped at a starbase with a bar, but Picard's always spending his leave digging up antiquities and Riker's waist deep in actual jamaharon.
  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since when there were holoprograms in 2250? Maybe i'm missing something, but the first time they appeared as StarFleet tech was in TNG, and that's 1 century later...so...are you saying that Tyler is actually from the future?

    Ahh, you're forgetting, this isn't in the same universe or timeline as any other star trek. This is actually the completely unrelated phi beta kappa universe.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since when there were holoprograms in 2250? Maybe i'm missing something, but the first time they appeared as StarFleet tech was in TNG, and that's 1 century later...so...are you saying that Tyler is actually from the future?

    Ahh, you're forgetting, this isn't in the same universe or timeline as any other star trek. This is actually the completely unrelated phi beta kappa universe.


    Wake me up when the Tri-Lam's have one. Booger Presley on the Bridge. with Poindexter at the con is something I'd pay to see.

  • If you watched this weeks episode, you will understand the holoprogram.

    I will not give spoilers, just in case, but there are some doozies this week!
    I want to become a Dilionaire...
  • Also, they could have given him a better uniform. Didn't they have replicators in those days? It's like, dude you've been living in that uniform for 7 months it's gotten a bit whiffy, but we've run out of male uniforms in your size so you'd better have one of Tilly's.
  • to bad for you boys....
    watch Episode 6 DSC
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    to bad for you boys....
    watch Episode 6 DSC

    Lol I think I'll pass. Might check in a season or two down the line and see if it at that point is not worse than Scandal in Esperanto.
  • Since when there were holoprograms in 2250?
    Since they decided The Animated Series was canon.
    Something very like the holodeck appeared in TAS, so they retconned to say that Kirk's Enterprise had one that just never appeared or factored into a plot.
  • to bad for you boys....
    watch Episode 6 DSC

    We get it 24hrs after America, and then I have to make sure my girlfriend is out because she hates it.. so no spoilers pls lol. I should stay clear of the forums for a bit maybe. And I guess some of us are girls so I don't know if I'm butting in where I'm not wanted..
  • SpyOne wrote: »
    Since when there were holoprograms in 2250?
    Since they decided The Animated Series was canon.
    Something very like the holodeck appeared in TAS, so they retconned to say that Kirk's Enterprise had one that just never appeared or factored into a plot.

    Yes, I suspect the Xyrillians from ENT were the developers of the holodeck tech we see in TNG/DS9/VOY era. This episode of Discovery was, after all, 100 years after the intro to sophisticated "Hologram" tech was introduced by the Xyrillians. And again, I will point out that Discovery is Sec31 and has the BEST and newest tech available, whether completely sanctioned by Starfleet or not.

    Should I also refresh everyones memory that the Xyrillian Hologram tech was actually given to the Klingons in the same episode of ENT?
    I want to become a Dilionaire...
  • Full on interactive Holoprograms on last nights episode. Case closed.
  • KaiteeKaitee ✭✭✭✭✭
    BelleAnna wrote: »
    Also, they could have given him a better uniform.

    Makes sense if you think it through - Tilly clearly wants Tyler to get into her uniform, she tends to ramble when she's nervous, he misunderstood... could happen to anyone.
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