The gauntlet you're put in is determined by the day and time you enter. Once one fills up, another opens until it fills up, and so on. There are also two major groups for traits, so someone who joins on one day will have different traits than those who join the next day.
Thanks Skizzy! cool that you knew that;) I had no idea hehe
Other developers like Blizzard are doing a power reset for everyone (in Hearthstone and WoW) so new players eventually can compete with everyone else, but as far as I've seen DB doesn't do that and the players who were around for longer will always be better at everything compared to newer players. The rich get richer ;=)
So they should having played for so long. I've been playing 5 months, and I've achieved a rank No1 in the gauntlet. Not because I've spent tons of money, but because I think I have quite a good strategy, I sometimes get lucky with the time I start and when I'm lucky enough to get a behold I know who the best gauntlet cards are. My fleet have 100% helped me achieve my No1 rank, because their advice is amazing and has really helped.
also, power creep is a real thing. A lot of the older legendaries are comparable to recent 4*, plus, and this is really rather a big deal, you don't need to fuse gauntlet cards, one copy is all that's required. therefore unlike many other aspects of the game, its far easier to climb up that ladder.
I have heard several ppl in my fleets (players with no so strong decks) also have easier time in gauntlet.
I think this depends on what gauntlet group you fall. maybe they do it randomly or maybe they do it based on your deck stats or something else.
I have noticed that it seems like there are different gauntlet groups? I might be wrong, or imagining things. But I have noticed that some gauntlets, are super easy, and some are pain crushingly hard lol. No idea what determines which group you fall in, how many there are, or if its just completely random.
It depends when you enter. They fill 200 players and then start a new one. If you start a gauntlet at 8pm it's likely going to be hard. If you wait until 7:50pm the following day it is probably easier. The exact easiest gauntlet is hard to predict, but is whenever the best players aren't starting.
Traits are the same for the full day. Some traits give huge bonuses to top crew and make that gauntlet a pain. The only option at that point is to realize it will be awful, or wait 24 hours for a new set of traits.
A lot of good points made on here. Good work Peachtree, I have been following your work. I admit it was a bit of a frustration post, losing fresh crew in improbable circumstances always hurts.
Other developers like Blizzard are doing a power reset for everyone (in Hearthstone and WoW) so new players eventually can compete with everyone else, but as far as I've seen DB doesn't do that and the players who were around for longer will always be better at everything compared to newer players. The rich get richer ;=)
So they should having played for so long. I've been playing 5 months, and I've achieved a rank No1 in the gauntlet. Not because I've spent tons of money, but because I think I have quite a good strategy, I sometimes get lucky with the time I start and when I'm lucky enough to get a behold I know who the best gauntlet cards are. My fleet have 100% helped me achieve my No1 rank, because their advice is amazing and has really helped.
also, power creep is a real thing. A lot of the older legendaries are comparable to recent 4*, plus, and this is really rather a big deal, you don't need to fuse gauntlet cards, one copy is all that's required. therefore unlike many other aspects of the game, its far easier to climb up that ladder.
I have heard several ppl in my fleets (players with no so strong decks) also have easier time in gauntlet.
I think this depends on what gauntlet group you fall. maybe they do it randomly or maybe they do it based on your deck stats or something else.
I have noticed that it seems like there are different gauntlet groups? I might be wrong, or imagining things. But I have noticed that some gauntlets, are super easy, and some are pain crushingly hard lol. No idea what determines which group you fall in, how many there are, or if its just completely random.
Do you mean in terms of how difficult the competition is?
Gauntlets are continually being created. It'll fill up to 200 (I think 200 is the cap?) and then a new one will start filling up. The competition is all based on who joins around the same time as you.
A lot of good points made on here. Good work Peachtree, I have been following your work. I admit it was a bit of a frustration post, losing fresh crew in improbable circumstances always hurts.
Thank you and I 100% agree. Losing fresh crew always hurts, even if you think the underlying system is fair and not rigged.
Yes Peach, I wasn't sure how the gauntlets were determined. Ive just noticed, that sometimes I join, and the opponents are super easy, and sometimes I join, and its walls of guinans and mirror picards lol. I guess its just luck of the draw;)
I feel the reward system in gauntlet is what is really unfair
In general I don’t think it is too bad but getting a handful of blue trainers is a big slap in the face.
You sound like you got a 5* crew... i´m nearing the Locutus achievement and never got a 5*. So Guinan is unobtainable by any means for me
I have been fortunate enough to get one Locutus (9-win streak), two Guinans (9-win streak and gauntlet crate), and two Caretakers (both via 3-win streaks), yes. And I can absolutely see a justification for reducing the spread in how frequently people get the special Gauntlet Reward Crew...when people like you never get Guinan to drop and people are talking about getting twelve copies in the same time span, there is opportunity to fix that.
I also don’t care for how the gauntlet round achievement is set up. 20,000 rounds is a lot for one star on Locutus. Although changing or adding rewards up to 20,000 rounds is a minefield I am sure DB doesn’t want to traverse, having Guinan awarded at 25,000 rounds, The Caretaker at 30,000 rounds, and each subsequent gauntlet-only crew awarded every 5,000 rounds thereafter wouldn’t be game-breaking.
Other than that, I am generally happy with gauntlet rewards. I do not re-roll skills or revive crew, so I don’t waste dil and have a net positive merit balance. I also get drops of chrons and the occasional component or whole piece of equipment, with completed equipment always being useful unlike Dabo wheel drops. Trainers need to go, however, because they are available in quantity from other sources.
I feel the reward system in gauntlet is what is really unfair
In general I don’t think it is too bad but getting a handful of blue trainers is a big slap in the face.
You sound like you got a 5* crew... i´m nearing the Locutus achievement and never got a 5*. So Guinan is unobtainable by any means for me
I have been fortunate enough to get one Locutus (9-win streak), two Guinans (9-win streak and gauntlet crate), and two Caretakers (both via 3-win streaks), yes. And I can absolutely see a justification for reducing the spread in how frequently people get the special Gauntlet Reward Crew...when people like you never get Guinan to drop and people are talking about getting twelve copies in the same time span, there is opportunity to fix that.
I also don’t care for how the gauntlet round achievement is set up. 20,000 rounds is a lot for one star on Locutus. Although changing or adding rewards up to 20,000 rounds is a minefield I am sure DB doesn’t want to traverse, having Guinan awarded at 25,000 rounds, The Caretaker at 30,000 rounds, and each subsequent gauntlet-only crew awarded every 5,000 rounds thereafter wouldn’t be game-breaking.
Other than that, I am generally happy with gauntlet rewards. I do not re-roll skills or revive crew, so I don’t waste dil and have a net positive merit balance. I also get drops of chrons and the occasional component or whole piece of equipment, with completed equipment always being useful unlike Dabo wheel drops. Trainers need to go, however, because they are available in quantity from other sources.
Yeah, adding to the achievements would at least give hope..
I'd be happy with a Delta system implemented. So if you have 25% and opponent has 5%, thier chance for critical goes to 0% and yours to 20%.
I'd also like to see base minimum reduced to 1% per trait instead of 5% per trait. Criticals should be rare, not a disappointment every single 4 hours. 5% is to much and we already have reduced strength for repeated matches. Streaks will end.
Removing criticals increases strategy by reducing luck factor. It would be a better less frustrating game since criticals never work backwards. We always attack weaker (or mirror) opponents.
Nerfing criticals to the ground would actually significantly decrease strategy from a crew-selection standpoint. With only a maximum of 3% crit (in that model) there's no reason to ever consider trait while selecting crew.
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I've played just over 5,000 rounds. I started during Guinan and landed 3 of her but still no Caretaker. It could be my perception, but it feels like there are a lot fewer walls (5x of the same character) now. By rarely refreshing, I win lots of merits which I regularly convert to Honor. I've gotten at least 4 legendaries with this strategy.
Other developers like Blizzard are doing a power reset for everyone (in Hearthstone and WoW) so new players eventually can compete with everyone else, but as far as I've seen DB doesn't do that and the players who were around for longer will always be better at everything compared to newer players. The rich get richer ;=)
So they should having played for so long. I've been playing 5 months, and I've achieved a rank No1 in the gauntlet. Not because I've spent tons of money, but because I think I have quite a good strategy, I sometimes get lucky with the time I start and when I'm lucky enough to get a behold I know who the best gauntlet cards are. My fleet have 100% helped me achieve my No1 rank, because their advice is amazing and has really helped.
also, power creep is a real thing. A lot of the older legendaries are comparable to recent 4*, plus, and this is really rather a big deal, you don't need to fuse gauntlet cards, one copy is all that's required. therefore unlike many other aspects of the game, its far easier to climb up that ladder.
I have heard several ppl in my fleets (players with no so strong decks) also have easier time in gauntlet.
I think this depends on what gauntlet group you fall. maybe they do it randomly or maybe they do it based on your deck stats or something else.
I have noticed that it seems like there are different gauntlet groups? I might be wrong, or imagining things. But I have noticed that some gauntlets, are super easy, and some are pain crushingly hard lol. No idea what determines which group you fall in, how many there are, or if its just completely random.
It depends when you enter. They fill 200 players and then start a new one. If you start a gauntlet at 8pm it's likely going to be hard. If you wait until 7:50pm the following day it is probably easier. The exact easiest gauntlet is hard to predict, but is whenever the best players aren't starting.
Traits are the same for the full day. Some traits give huge bonuses to top crew and make that gauntlet a pain. The only option at that point is to realize it will be awful, or wait 24 hours for a new set of traits.
I did try to wait for a day and I was entered with same difficult group, and only <8hr left. I waited few days, and still the same. so I don’t know how this works....
also not sure if all those 200 ppl are all players. I think more than half are bots
I did try to wait for a day and I was entered with same difficult group, and only <8hr left. I waited few days, and still the same. so I don’t know how this works....
There are two different Gauntlets running concurrently — meaning, different traits and different featured skill. They both start at the same time of day, but are exactly one day separated. So, if your current Gauntlet just ended, you could wait 24 hours, and after that you'd automatically be in the other Gauntlet (with the different traits). If you waited 48 hours, however, you'd be back in the same rotation you were before.
But within that 24 time span, there are many different Gauntlets running. As soon as one fills up, another is started. Since a lot of players join the new Gauntlet within a few hours of it starting up, some players will wait 5 hours or more, then join, figuring they will have weaker opponents. This doesn't always work, however.
So based on what I've read here, there may actually be "easier" gauntlets based on what time zone you live in, and what time you enter? Best to avoid entering a gauntlet between say 5pm EST and Midnight then? When most Americans are coming home from work and having a chance to sit and play? Wonder what time period would be "best"? @PeachtreeRex or anyone do any data collecting on that?
So based on what I've read here, there may actually be "easier" gauntlets based on what time zone you live in, and what time you enter? Best to avoid entering a gauntlet between say 5pm EST and Midnight then? When most Americans are coming home from work and having a chance to sit and play? Wonder what time period would be "best"? @PeachtreeRex or anyone do any data collecting on that?
It USED to be that way. Before Surak and €O€K diesel Picard and Khaless, if you joined a gauntlet a few hours later you would get weaker competition but now you can be in 178th place and still face walls of all of them because these crew were all easily attainable. Certainly easy to get one star of them as that’s all you need for gauntlet.
So based on what I've read here, there may actually be "easier" gauntlets based on what time zone you live in, and what time you enter? Best to avoid entering a gauntlet between say 5pm EST and Midnight then? When most Americans are coming home from work and having a chance to sit and play? Wonder what time period would be "best"? @PeachtreeRex or anyone do any data collecting on that?
I don't think it would be possible for a player to actually collect data on that sort of thing unless they were coordinating dozens, if not hundreds, of accounts. Totally not feasible.
Personally, I join around 0530-0545 EST most of the time and rarely have much competition. I've heard of some that join right before the gauntlet reset time (2000 EST, currently) and they tend to have really easy goes of it.
Part of the problem, too, is that many people perceive that the top reward boxes aren't "worth it" so they aim for a lower spot that will get them a higher quantity of boxes.
I like getting the top tier boxes because they don't have any trainers in them and I love the feeling of "winning". I also find going for streaks to be endlessly frustrating when you get RNGed off of it. So, instead I go for max points and try to blow away the competition.
I did try to wait for a day and I was entered with same difficult group, and only <8hr left. I waited few days, and still the same. so I don’t know how this works....
There are two different Gauntlets running concurrently — meaning, different traits and different featured skill. They both start at the same time of day, but are exactly one day separated. So, if your current Gauntlet just ended, you could wait 24 hours, and after that you'd automatically be in the other Gauntlet (with the different traits). If you waited 48 hours, however, you'd be back in the same rotation you were before.
But within that 24 time span, there are many different Gauntlets running. As soon as one fills up, another is started. Since a lot of players join the new Gauntlet within a few hours of it starting up, some players will wait 5 hours or more, then join, figuring they will have weaker opponents. This doesn't always work, however.
also not sure if all those 200 ppl are all players. I think more than half are bots
Haha, no. All are real players.
it is prob true But nevertheless I wonder who still have locutus and guinan or other legendary crews that is only halfway FE? I encountered those a lot at maybe rank 50 or lower. could be players’ strategy or could be just bots deployed to fill those gauntlet. Who knows?
So based on what I've read here, there may actually be "easier" gauntlets based on what time zone you live in, and what time you enter? Best to avoid entering a gauntlet between say 5pm EST and Midnight then? When most Americans are coming home from work and having a chance to sit and play? Wonder what time period would be "best"? @PeachtreeRex or anyone do any data collecting on that?
I don't think it would be possible for a player to actually collect data on that sort of thing unless they were coordinating dozens, if not hundreds, of accounts. Totally not feasible.
Personally, I join around 0530-0545 EST most of the time and rarely have much competition. I've heard of some that join right before the gauntlet reset time (2000 EST, currently) and they tend to have really easy goes of it.
Part of the problem, too, is that many people perceive that the top reward boxes aren't "worth it" so they aim for a lower spot that will get them a higher quantity of boxes.
I like getting the top tier boxes because they don't have any trainers in them and I love the feeling of "winning". I also find going for streaks to be endlessly frustrating when you get RNGed off of it. So, instead I go for max points and try to blow away the competition.
i don’t believe players can switch zone. As mentioned, I tried that few times, but always ended up with the same one because I am in US timezone.
As of now, gauntlet is the worst part of this game. My round now has guinan with 65% crits, and i have had about 7 out of 10 all guinan walls since gauntlet started.
i’ll try to enter 0530-0545 EST and see if my luck changes.
So based on what I've read here, there may actually be "easier" gauntlets based on what time zone you live in, and what time you enter? Best to avoid entering a gauntlet between say 5pm EST and Midnight then? When most Americans are coming home from work and having a chance to sit and play? Wonder what time period would be "best"? @PeachtreeRex or anyone do any data collecting on that?
I don't think it would be possible for a player to actually collect data on that sort of thing unless they were coordinating dozens, if not hundreds, of accounts. Totally not feasible.
Personally, I join around 0530-0545 EST most of the time and rarely have much competition. I've heard of some that join right before the gauntlet reset time (2000 EST, currently) and they tend to have really easy goes of it.
Part of the problem, too, is that many people perceive that the top reward boxes aren't "worth it" so they aim for a lower spot that will get them a higher quantity of boxes.
I like getting the top tier boxes because they don't have any trainers in them and I love the feeling of "winning". I also find going for streaks to be endlessly frustrating when you get RNGed off of it. So, instead I go for max points and try to blow away the competition.
i don’t believe players can switch zone. As mentioned, I tried that few times, but always ended up with the same one because I am in US timezone.
As of now, gauntlet is the worst part of this game. My round now has guinan with 65% crits, and i have had about 7 out of 10 all guinan walls since gauntlet started.
i’ll try to enter 0530-0545 EST and see if my luck changes.
What do you mean by "switch zone"? You will be in the same gauntlet as those who join around the same time. We had about a dozen members of my fleet in the same exact gauntlet once because we all planned on joining in the same one along with a similar number from a second fleet for an inter-fleet-gauntlet-rumble (which was great fun, by the way).
The gauntlet traits change every 24 hours. So, yes, whether you join at 2000 EST when the gauntlet resets of 0530EST the next morning, the traits will be the same. However, the people you are matched up against will be completely different.
I wish that RNG criticals in the gauntlet were simply eliminated. They cause nothing but confusion and delay! Thomas will never get there on time! But seriously, if they were eliminated would that not make life easier on here?
BEAUTIFUL Thomas reference. I can hear Topham Hatt's voice
So based on what I've read here, there may actually be "easier" gauntlets based on what time zone you live in, and what time you enter? Best to avoid entering a gauntlet between say 5pm EST and Midnight then? When most Americans are coming home from work and having a chance to sit and play? Wonder what time period would be "best"? @PeachtreeRex or anyone do any data collecting on that?
I don't think it would be possible for a player to actually collect data on that sort of thing unless they were coordinating dozens, if not hundreds, of accounts. Totally not feasible.
Personally, I join around 0530-0545 EST most of the time and rarely have much competition. I've heard of some that join right before the gauntlet reset time (2000 EST, currently) and they tend to have really easy goes of it.
Part of the problem, too, is that many people perceive that the top reward boxes aren't "worth it" so they aim for a lower spot that will get them a higher quantity of boxes.
I like getting the top tier boxes because they don't have any trainers in them and I love the feeling of "winning". I also find going for streaks to be endlessly frustrating when you get RNGed off of it. So, instead I go for max points and try to blow away the competition.
i don’t believe players can switch zone. As mentioned, I tried that few times, but always ended up with the same one because I am in US timezone.
As of now, gauntlet is the worst part of this game. My round now has guinan with 65% crits, and i have had about 7 out of 10 all guinan walls since gauntlet started.
i’ll try to enter 0530-0545 EST and see if my luck changes.
What do you mean by "switch zone"? You will be in the same gauntlet as those who join around the same time. We had about a dozen members of my fleet in the same exact gauntlet once because we all planned on joining in the same one along with a similar number from a second fleet for an inter-fleet-gauntlet-rumble (which was great fun, by the way).
The gauntlet traits change every 24 hours. So, yes, whether you join at 2000 EST when the gauntlet resets of 0530EST the next morning, the traits will be the same. However, the people you are matched up against will be completely different.
My gauntlet always finishes at 5pm PST, and I cannot “switch” to European/Asian zone like some of my fleet mates that finish at another time. so Regardless when I joined gauntlet, I always ended up at 5pm PST
So based on what I've read here, there may actually be "easier" gauntlets based on what time zone you live in, and what time you enter? Best to avoid entering a gauntlet between say 5pm EST and Midnight then? When most Americans are coming home from work and having a chance to sit and play? Wonder what time period would be "best"? @PeachtreeRex or anyone do any data collecting on that?
I don't think it would be possible for a player to actually collect data on that sort of thing unless they were coordinating dozens, if not hundreds, of accounts. Totally not feasible.
Personally, I join around 0530-0545 EST most of the time and rarely have much competition. I've heard of some that join right before the gauntlet reset time (2000 EST, currently) and they tend to have really easy goes of it.
Part of the problem, too, is that many people perceive that the top reward boxes aren't "worth it" so they aim for a lower spot that will get them a higher quantity of boxes.
I like getting the top tier boxes because they don't have any trainers in them and I love the feeling of "winning". I also find going for streaks to be endlessly frustrating when you get RNGed off of it. So, instead I go for max points and try to blow away the competition.
i don’t believe players can switch zone. As mentioned, I tried that few times, but always ended up with the same one because I am in US timezone.
As of now, gauntlet is the worst part of this game. My round now has guinan with 65% crits, and i have had about 7 out of 10 all guinan walls since gauntlet started.
i’ll try to enter 0530-0545 EST and see if my luck changes.
What do you mean by "switch zone"? You will be in the same gauntlet as those who join around the same time. We had about a dozen members of my fleet in the same exact gauntlet once because we all planned on joining in the same one along with a similar number from a second fleet for an inter-fleet-gauntlet-rumble (which was great fun, by the way).
The gauntlet traits change every 24 hours. So, yes, whether you join at 2000 EST when the gauntlet resets of 0530EST the next morning, the traits will be the same. However, the people you are matched up against will be completely different.
My gauntlet always finishes at 5pm PST, and I cannot “switch” to European/Asian zone like some of my fleet mates that finish at another time. so Regardless when I joined gauntlet, I always ended up at 5pm PST
All gauntlets started in the same 24hr period end at the same time. If you were to join a gauntlet at the same time as your fleetmates (I.e., everyone at 1200UTC), then you would likely be in the same gauntlet. Your home time zone doesn't matter (except for determining you own sleep cycle which might make different start times more/less appealing).
Edit: if they are finishing 24 hrs offset from you, then one of you would have to wait and not join gauntlet for a day to get on the "other" cycle. But I assure you, home time zone does not impact the gauntlet cycle like you seem to be implying.
So based on what I've read here, there may actually be "easier" gauntlets based on what time zone you live in, and what time you enter? Best to avoid entering a gauntlet between say 5pm EST and Midnight then? When most Americans are coming home from work and having a chance to sit and play? Wonder what time period would be "best"? @PeachtreeRex or anyone do any data collecting on that?
I don't think it would be possible for a player to actually collect data on that sort of thing unless they were coordinating dozens, if not hundreds, of accounts. Totally not feasible.
Personally, I join around 0530-0545 EST most of the time and rarely have much competition. I've heard of some that join right before the gauntlet reset time (2000 EST, currently) and they tend to have really easy goes of it.
Part of the problem, too, is that many people perceive that the top reward boxes aren't "worth it" so they aim for a lower spot that will get them a higher quantity of boxes.
I like getting the top tier boxes because they don't have any trainers in them and I love the feeling of "winning". I also find going for streaks to be endlessly frustrating when you get RNGed off of it. So, instead I go for max points and try to blow away the competition.
i don’t believe players can switch zone. As mentioned, I tried that few times, but always ended up with the same one because I am in US timezone.
As of now, gauntlet is the worst part of this game. My round now has guinan with 65% crits, and i have had about 7 out of 10 all guinan walls since gauntlet started.
i’ll try to enter 0530-0545 EST and see if my luck changes.
What do you mean by "switch zone"? You will be in the same gauntlet as those who join around the same time. We had about a dozen members of my fleet in the same exact gauntlet once because we all planned on joining in the same one along with a similar number from a second fleet for an inter-fleet-gauntlet-rumble (which was great fun, by the way).
The gauntlet traits change every 24 hours. So, yes, whether you join at 2000 EST when the gauntlet resets of 0530EST the next morning, the traits will be the same. However, the people you are matched up against will be completely different.
My gauntlet always finishes at 5pm PST, and I cannot “switch” to European/Asian zone like some of my fleet mates that finish at another time. so Regardless when I joined gauntlet, I always ended up at 5pm PST
Your 5pm is my 1am. Gauntlet finishes at the same time regardless of where you live. You can join the same gauntlet as someone sat right next to you if you both click enter gauntlet at the same moment, and the same gauntlet as someone halfway across the world from you if you click enter gauntlet at the same time.
The difference is time zones, not gauntlet.
Like I'm guessing your event start is maybe 11 or 12am? Around midday? Mines is 5pm (during summer, winter is a bit earlier due to daylight savings time in the UK) so everyone starts and ends at the same time, its just your local time zone that's different. We have an Austrailian in our fleet and her event time end is something ridiculous like 2am, shes not often able to do last minute crafting or shuttle returns because she's asleep
Our Fleet (the D3vil dog5) run "Fleet" gauntlets 2 times a week, Wenesday and Thursday,so that one can get into a FG once every week regardless of the cycle they are on. It's great fun to take 10-12 fleeties into a guantlet and hammer everyone and see that {DD} tag holding most of the spots in the top 10. We also use that oppourtunity to promote newer fleet members into the #1 spot so they can get the achievments. We would love to Go FLEET vs FLEET, so contact me in game to set that up.
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I feel the reward system in gauntlet is what is really unfair
In general I don’t think it is too bad but getting a handful of blue trainers is a big slap in the face.
You sound like you got a 5* crew... i´m nearing the Locutus achievement and never got a 5*. So Guinan is unobtainable by any means for me
I have been fortunate enough to get one Locutus (9-win streak), two Guinans (9-win streak and gauntlet crate), and two Caretakers (both via 3-win streaks), yes. And I can absolutely see a justification for reducing the spread in how frequently people get the special Gauntlet Reward Crew...when people like you never get Guinan to drop and people are talking about getting twelve copies in the same time span, there is opportunity to fix that.
I also don’t care for how the gauntlet round achievement is set up. 20,000 rounds is a lot for one star on Locutus. Although changing or adding rewards up to 20,000 rounds is a minefield I am sure DB doesn’t want to traverse, having Guinan awarded at 25,000 rounds, The Caretaker at 30,000 rounds, and each subsequent gauntlet-only crew awarded every 5,000 rounds thereafter wouldn’t be game-breaking.
Other than that, I am generally happy with gauntlet rewards. I do not re-roll skills or revive crew, so I don’t waste dil and have a net positive merit balance. I also get drops of chrons and the occasional component or whole piece of equipment, with completed equipment always being useful unlike Dabo wheel drops. Trainers need to go, however, because they are available in quantity from other sources.
I don't feel that trainers need to go entirely, new captains will need them. That being said, a reduction in them would help especially since you can also get them from Voyages. Maybe replace some with honor.
The fairness of drops might be addressed at the end of a reward phase. For example, when Caretaker is going to be replaced if you haven't gotten at least one then you get one. This is only applied if you've played a certain number of rounds. Not sure what the number should be, 3,000 for example. Would require someone to play quite a bit but it seems possible. Those that already have one don't get another because they were covered by the good luck of having one or more drop.
I also think the huge hole in rewards between 10,000 and 20,000 rounds could be address by adding a legendary citation or behold at 15,000 rounds. If your past 15.000 already you gain it immediately.
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Thanks Skizzy! cool that you knew that;) I had no idea hehe
It depends when you enter. They fill 200 players and then start a new one. If you start a gauntlet at 8pm it's likely going to be hard. If you wait until 7:50pm the following day it is probably easier. The exact easiest gauntlet is hard to predict, but is whenever the best players aren't starting.
Traits are the same for the full day. Some traits give huge bonuses to top crew and make that gauntlet a pain. The only option at that point is to realize it will be awful, or wait 24 hours for a new set of traits.
Do you mean in terms of how difficult the competition is?
Gauntlets are continually being created. It'll fill up to 200 (I think 200 is the cap?) and then a new one will start filling up. The competition is all based on who joins around the same time as you.
Thank you and I 100% agree. Losing fresh crew always hurts, even if you think the underlying system is fair and not rigged.
I have been fortunate enough to get one Locutus (9-win streak), two Guinans (9-win streak and gauntlet crate), and two Caretakers (both via 3-win streaks), yes. And I can absolutely see a justification for reducing the spread in how frequently people get the special Gauntlet Reward Crew...when people like you never get Guinan to drop and people are talking about getting twelve copies in the same time span, there is opportunity to fix that.
I also don’t care for how the gauntlet round achievement is set up. 20,000 rounds is a lot for one star on Locutus. Although changing or adding rewards up to 20,000 rounds is a minefield I am sure DB doesn’t want to traverse, having Guinan awarded at 25,000 rounds, The Caretaker at 30,000 rounds, and each subsequent gauntlet-only crew awarded every 5,000 rounds thereafter wouldn’t be game-breaking.
Other than that, I am generally happy with gauntlet rewards. I do not re-roll skills or revive crew, so I don’t waste dil and have a net positive merit balance. I also get drops of chrons and the occasional component or whole piece of equipment, with completed equipment always being useful unlike Dabo wheel drops. Trainers need to go, however, because they are available in quantity from other sources.
Yeah, adding to the achievements would at least give hope..
I'd also like to see base minimum reduced to 1% per trait instead of 5% per trait. Criticals should be rare, not a disappointment every single 4 hours. 5% is to much and we already have reduced strength for repeated matches. Streaks will end.
Removing criticals increases strategy by reducing luck factor. It would be a better less frustrating game since criticals never work backwards. We always attack weaker (or mirror) opponents.
I did try to wait for a day and I was entered with same difficult group, and only <8hr left. I waited few days, and still the same. so I don’t know how this works....
also not sure if all those 200 ppl are all players. I think more than half are bots
There are two different Gauntlets running concurrently — meaning, different traits and different featured skill. They both start at the same time of day, but are exactly one day separated. So, if your current Gauntlet just ended, you could wait 24 hours, and after that you'd automatically be in the other Gauntlet (with the different traits). If you waited 48 hours, however, you'd be back in the same rotation you were before.
But within that 24 time span, there are many different Gauntlets running. As soon as one fills up, another is started. Since a lot of players join the new Gauntlet within a few hours of it starting up, some players will wait 5 hours or more, then join, figuring they will have weaker opponents. This doesn't always work, however.
Haha, no. All are real players.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
You mean all those level 99, no avatar, and default name Captain are real ?
Yes. Yes I do. It's been brought up numerous times before, and DB has confirmed it's a display glitch.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Got it. Did not realize that. Just thought it might make sense to throw some computer players in if gauntlet takes too long to fill.😉🙂
It USED to be that way. Before Surak and €O€K diesel Picard and Khaless, if you joined a gauntlet a few hours later you would get weaker competition but now you can be in 178th place and still face walls of all of them because these crew were all easily attainable. Certainly easy to get one star of them as that’s all you need for gauntlet.
I don't think it would be possible for a player to actually collect data on that sort of thing unless they were coordinating dozens, if not hundreds, of accounts. Totally not feasible.
Personally, I join around 0530-0545 EST most of the time and rarely have much competition. I've heard of some that join right before the gauntlet reset time (2000 EST, currently) and they tend to have really easy goes of it.
Part of the problem, too, is that many people perceive that the top reward boxes aren't "worth it" so they aim for a lower spot that will get them a higher quantity of boxes.
I like getting the top tier boxes because they don't have any trainers in them and I love the feeling of "winning". I also find going for streaks to be endlessly frustrating when you get RNGed off of it. So, instead I go for max points and try to blow away the competition.
it is prob true
i don’t believe players can switch zone. As mentioned, I tried that few times, but always ended up with the same one because I am in US timezone.
As of now, gauntlet is the worst part of this game. My round now has guinan with 65% crits, and i have had about 7 out of 10 all guinan walls since gauntlet started.
i’ll try to enter 0530-0545 EST and see if my luck changes.
What do you mean by "switch zone"? You will be in the same gauntlet as those who join around the same time. We had about a dozen members of my fleet in the same exact gauntlet once because we all planned on joining in the same one along with a similar number from a second fleet for an inter-fleet-gauntlet-rumble (which was great fun, by the way).
The gauntlet traits change every 24 hours. So, yes, whether you join at 2000 EST when the gauntlet resets of 0530EST the next morning, the traits will be the same. However, the people you are matched up against will be completely different.
BEAUTIFUL Thomas reference. I can hear Topham Hatt's voice
My gauntlet always finishes at 5pm PST, and I cannot “switch” to European/Asian zone like some of my fleet mates that finish at another time. so Regardless when I joined gauntlet, I always ended up at 5pm PST
New players will start out on the bottom rung of the league and will earn promotion as they develop their crew.
The rewards could be tailored to suit players at that level.
Failing that, you could just be placed in a gauntlet with other players with a similar captains level to your own?
All gauntlets started in the same 24hr period end at the same time. If you were to join a gauntlet at the same time as your fleetmates (I.e., everyone at 1200UTC), then you would likely be in the same gauntlet. Your home time zone doesn't matter (except for determining you own sleep cycle which might make different start times more/less appealing).
Edit: if they are finishing 24 hrs offset from you, then one of you would have to wait and not join gauntlet for a day to get on the "other" cycle. But I assure you, home time zone does not impact the gauntlet cycle like you seem to be implying.
I would love a promotion/relegation system (and have suggested such in Make It So in the past)
Your 5pm is my 1am. Gauntlet finishes at the same time regardless of where you live. You can join the same gauntlet as someone sat right next to you if you both click enter gauntlet at the same moment, and the same gauntlet as someone halfway across the world from you if you click enter gauntlet at the same time.
The difference is time zones, not gauntlet.
Like I'm guessing your event start is maybe 11 or 12am? Around midday? Mines is 5pm (during summer, winter is a bit earlier due to daylight savings time in the UK) so everyone starts and ends at the same time, its just your local time zone that's different. We have an Austrailian in our fleet and her event time end is something ridiculous like 2am, shes not often able to do last minute crafting or shuttle returns because she's asleep
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I don't feel that trainers need to go entirely, new captains will need them. That being said, a reduction in them would help especially since you can also get them from Voyages. Maybe replace some with honor.
The fairness of drops might be addressed at the end of a reward phase. For example, when Caretaker is going to be replaced if you haven't gotten at least one then you get one. This is only applied if you've played a certain number of rounds. Not sure what the number should be, 3,000 for example. Would require someone to play quite a bit but it seems possible. Those that already have one don't get another because they were covered by the good luck of having one or more drop.
I also think the huge hole in rewards between 10,000 and 20,000 rounds could be address by adding a legendary citation or behold at 15,000 rounds. If your past 15.000 already you gain it immediately.