Want to work at DB?

Hassinator

Here's your chance!

https://liquidspace.com/us/ma/framingham/disruptor-beam?utm_source=venue&utm_medium=marketing&utm_campaign=disruptor-beam&venueId=5d5ab54d-6989-46c1-bc4d-057b04b9c741&visaId=3bc9861e-f36a-49a4-8b6b-c216381c9de7&tracklink=true

Yeah. This company is hurting. My wallet is permanently closed even for the $4 monthly card now.

Mirror Cartman

Fooda onna sitaa

Captain Jellico

Wow this is really telling. Having thirty desk spaces and one conference room available for rent at a single location reeks of mismanagement. Between the lack of QA, the layoffs last year, declining arena participation, and now office space in their headquarters being up for rent, the warning signs are all there.

Think long and hard before you spend any $. This is what the decline of a startup looks like. These things do not happen in a healthy and sustainable business.

Don’t be surprised if there are more and money money grabs as they approach the end of the line.

eXo | SilverRose (retired)

@eXo | Frank Are you pondering what I'm pondering, Franky?

S31

LMAO. 30 available desks for rent? Maybe you guys should just sell that building and move somewhere else.

And outsource as much work as possible.

Mirror Cartman

Captain Jellico wrote: »

Wow this is really telling. Having thirty desk spaces and one conference room available for rent at a single location reeks of mismanagement. Between the lack of QA, the layoffs last year, declining arena participation, and now office space in their headquarters being up for rent, the warning signs are all there.

fooda unlimited coffee & soft drinks, beer taps, ..... , gaming areas,

beer taps.
beer taps in a working environment.
beer taps where you may be working with customers and customer support.
beer taps where one wrong button press could take out the server.
beer taps.

I think I now understand why DB has so many problems.

There is nothing wrong with beer at home or socialising but beer in the work place is a recipe for disaster. Take it from me I know first hand.

S31

Mirror Cartman wrote: »

Captain Jellico wrote: »

Wow this is really telling. Having thirty desk spaces and one conference room available for rent at a single location reeks of mismanagement. Between the lack of QA, the layoffs last year, declining arena participation, and now office space in their headquarters being up for rent, the warning signs are all there.

fooda unlimited coffee & soft drinks, beer taps, ..... , gaming areas,

beer taps.
beer taps in a working environment.
beer taps where you may be working with customers and customer support.
beer taps where one wrong button press could take out the server.
beer taps.

I think I now understand why DB has so many problems.

There is nothing wrong with beer at home or socialising but beer in the work place is a recipe for disaster. Take it from me I know first hand.

They put food, drinks and coffee immediately in the ad like it's the most important thing and only later they did mention those unimportant things like wi-fi, conference rooms and so on.

Speckles the Destroyer of Worlds

I'm confused by the ad. Are they paying me or am I paying them?

Captain Jellico

Mirror Cartman wrote: »

Captain Jellico wrote: »

Wow this is really telling. Having thirty desk spaces and one conference room available for rent at a single location reeks of mismanagement. Between the lack of QA, the layoffs last year, declining arena participation, and now office space in their headquarters being up for rent, the warning signs are all there.

fooda unlimited coffee & soft drinks, beer taps, ..... , gaming areas,

beer taps.
beer taps in a working environment.
beer taps where you may be working with customers and customer support.
beer taps where one wrong button press could take out the server.
beer taps.

I think I now understand why DB has so many problems.

There is nothing wrong with beer at home or socialising but beer in the work place is a recipe for disaster. Take it from me I know first hand.

Nah this is really the least of the problems. If you want to attract talent (especially in Framingham, MA which is the middle of nowhere) you need to provide attractive amenities. I’ve worked in many environments, including my current employer, where beer is provided in the workplace but it’s done responsibly. I’m sure DB employees aren’t drinking all day long - it’s likely for Friday’s after 4 or a beer with lunch like many others in the industry allow.

This seems like that episode of Silicon Valley where they spent all their money on offices though and then went broke haha.

Also DB appears to outsource their support. So CS reps aren’t located in that office anyway.

Captain Jellico

Speckles the Destroyer of Worlds wrote: »

I'm confused by the ad. Are they paying me or am I paying them?

They are looking to rent parts of their office to external people/companies. So you would pay to use their office facilities.

Jim Raynor

They have leased half of the building until 2023 (30-40k squarefoot, which are ~2 floors) if the internet is correct. So they are trapped in the leasing with lots of emptiness after the layoffs. March to War must have been a really huge desater if they need the money from offering parts of their office .

https://property.compstak.com/100-Pennsylvania-Avenue-Framingham/p/66010

S31

Captain Jellico wrote: »

Nah this is really the least of the problems. If you want to attract talent (especially in Framingham, MA which is the middle of nowhere) you need to provide attractive amenities. I’ve worked in many environments, including my current employer, where beer is provided in the workplace but it’s done responsibly. I’m sure DB employees aren’t drinking all day long - it’s likely for Friday’s after 4 or a beer with lunch like many others in the industry allow.

This seems like that episode of Silicon Valley where they spent all their money on offices though and then went broke haha.

Also DB appears to outsource their support. So CS reps aren’t located in that office anyway.

Before this thread, I thought that DB is actually just two guys in a really small office maybe even an office from home who outsource everything - artist, coders, testers, CS...

Guess I was wrong.

Hassinator

eXo | SilverRose wrote: »

@eXo | Frank Are you pondering what I'm pondering, Franky?

I'm pondering "you" making an offer on a distressed asset and fixing it up

Althea Biermont

eXo | SilverRose wrote: »

@eXo | Frank Are you pondering what I'm pondering, Franky?

Wow. Their worst nightmare. I can see you and Frank in an office constantly breathing down their neck‘s about all the problems and they couldn’t escape it by just ignoring threads

And they would be buying you food and drinks while you did it LOL

South of Sulu

Mirror Cartman wrote: »

Captain Jellico wrote: »

Wow this is really telling. Having thirty desk spaces and one conference room available for rent at a single location reeks of mismanagement. Between the lack of QA, the layoffs last year, declining arena participation, and now office space in their headquarters being up for rent, the warning signs are all there.

fooda unlimited coffee & soft drinks, beer taps, ..... , gaming areas,

beer taps.
beer taps in a working environment.
beer taps where you may be working with customers and customer support.
beer taps where one wrong button press could take out the server.
beer taps.

I think I now understand why DB has so many problems.

There is nothing wrong with beer at home or socialising but beer in the work place is a recipe for disaster. Take it from me I know first hand.

Every tech company in the Bay Area has beer at work. It’s not a big deal. They are not employing the personality type who is going to get trashed and show up to a meeting.

South of Sulu

This is just an offer for co-working space. Which they have a available after downsizing. Not that unique, and not that big a deal.

Banjo1012

How does their office space affect you? I don’t understand what y’all are getting at. Am I supposed to be outraged? Surprised? Appalled? I am none of the above

{DD} Smelly

I think we should all pitch it to rent a desk. And then have a player sit there all day getting things straightened out at DB. I would actually throw in on that.

~peregrine~

{DD} Smelly (recruiting4lvl108sb) wrote: »

I think we should all pitch it to rent a desk. And then have a player sit there all day getting things straightened out at DB. I would actually throw in on that.

Sort of like a players’ ombudsman, perhaps. That would be cool. 🖖🏻

EDIT: What’s up with the vertical shifting of the emojis lately? 🤔

Captain Jellico

Banjo1012 wrote: »

How does their office space affect you? I don’t understand what y’all are getting at. Am I supposed to be outraged? Surprised? Appalled? I am none of the above

It’s not normal for a healthy business of approx 100 employees (got that number from a few online sources) to have 30 open desks that they are looking to rent out. That signals that they have no plan to fill them with employees any time soon.

Salary and physical facilities are typically the the largest operational expenses for most businesses (although if STT is hosted on a public cloud platform that might be up there as well). An operationally sound business does not have this problem.

It’s a sign of a mis-managed business.

WhatMeWorry

How can you this be anything more than a canary in a coal mine? 30 desks at $129 a month is $3900. Do they need the $3900 a month that badly? Can they not afford to eat $3900 a month? Think about it this way....its 10 $99 offers a week.

Dworf

Free beer and somewhere to sit for 150 bucks a month! DB should really try and target alcoholics and vagrants with this add.

[10F] Belle'Anna

Ah yes, this is what happens when players get narky and threaten to boycott.

Kaitee

So purely hypothetically, is there some part of the agreement where if you rent a desk you're specifically not allowed to ignore it and spend all your time sitting on the DB people's desks insisting they listen to all your story ideas for the next event?

t<G>e Roonis

[10F] Belle'Anna wrote: »

Ah yes, this is what happens when players get narky and threaten to boycott.

This is what happens when you buy the discount version of an IP, and launch a game type that is already established with better versions with the actual TV IP, right as the IP itself jumps the shark and starts hemorrhaging viewers.

These desks have been empty since The Walking Debt bomb layoffs that claimed Nod and the others.

They are locked in for this space for years, without another viable franchise immediately on the horizon. Even if we suppose Timelines is fully healthy, GoT is winding down, Walking Debt won't develop further, there is just no realistic reason to fill those desks with new employees, and that doesn't say anything about Timelines itself.

WaldoMag

{DD} Smelly (recruiting4lvl108sb) wrote: »

I think we should all pitch it to rent a desk. And then have a player sit there all day getting things straightened out at DB. I would actually throw in on that.

😉😊

Banjo1012

Having a big time STT player in one of those desks would prolly help tremendously. Just not an unreasonable free water type but those aren’t big time players anyway. They could monitor reactions and interests levels as they play. The player could then be like “you know, about this...”

izausome

Banjo1012 wrote: »

Having a big time STT player in one of those desks would prolly help tremendously. Just not an unreasonable free water type but those aren’t big time players anyway. They could monitor reactions and interests levels as they play. The player could then be like “you know, about this...”

I think the bigger issue is a need for quality coders, QA, management. Without that nothing is going to change, been the same since day 1.

[10F] Belle'Anna

Lol. I'm sure any contract you sign for sitting at those desks will contain a clause that you can't release insider information on DB. Although, they should probably double check the small print to make sure they haven't accidentally missed something important lol. Sometimes they do that I've noticed.

[QH] Oxmyx

I could never work there. It would be too depressing knowing 99% of the profits go straight into the pockets of the clowns running the carnival. God forbid those at the top ever take a pay cut or have any accountability.

Banjo1012

[10F] Belle'Anna wrote: »

Lol. I'm sure any contract you sign for sitting at those desks will contain a clause that you can't release insider information on DB. Although, they should probably double check the small print to make sure they haven't accidentally missed something important lol. Sometimes they do that I've noticed.

Pretty sure someone there does that for the admirals club already.