Wow this is really telling. Having thirty desk spaces and one conference room available for rent at a single location reeks of mismanagement. Between the lack of QA, the layoffs last year, declining arena participation, and now office space in their headquarters being up for rent, the warning signs are all there.
beer taps.
beer taps in a working environment.
beer taps where you may be working with customers and customer support.
beer taps where one wrong button press could take out the server.
beer taps.
I think I now understand why DB has so many problems.
There is nothing wrong with beer at home or socialising but beer in the work place is a recipe for disaster. Take it from me I know first hand.
Nah this is really the least of the problems. If you want to attract talent (especially in Framingham, MA which is the middle of nowhere) you need to provide attractive amenities. I’ve worked in many environments, including my current employer, where beer is provided in the workplace but it’s done responsibly. I’m sure DB employees aren’t drinking all day long - it’s likely for Friday’s after 4 or a beer with lunch like many others in the industry allow.
This seems like that episode of Silicon Valley where they spent all their money on offices though and then went broke haha.
Also DB appears to outsource their support. So CS reps aren’t located in that office anyway.
I’m going to assume you are not from the area, if you think that Framingham is in the middle of nowhere. The whole Metrowest area is a good alternative if you don’t want the high rent/high prices closer to Boston.
Lol. I'm sure any contract you sign for sitting at those desks will contain a clause that you can't release insider information on DB. Although, they should probably double check the small print to make sure they haven't accidentally missed something important lol. Sometimes they do that I've noticed.
Pretty sure someone there does that for the admirals club already.
That's a conspiracy theory that can get you banned lol
Lol. I'm sure any contract you sign for sitting at those desks will contain a clause that you can't release insider information on DB. Although, they should probably double check the small print to make sure they haven't accidentally missed something important lol. Sometimes they do that I've noticed.
Pretty sure someone there does that for the admirals club already.
That's a conspiracy theory that can get you banned lol
Belle'Anna, I was going to say to him to be careful, as royalty may not care for such talk.
Lol. I'm sure any contract you sign for sitting at those desks will contain a clause that you can't release insider information on DB. Although, they should probably double check the small print to make sure they haven't accidentally missed something important lol. Sometimes they do that I've noticed.
Pretty sure someone there does that for the admirals club already.
That's a conspiracy theory that can get you banned lol
Lol. I'm sure any contract you sign for sitting at those desks will contain a clause that you can't release insider information on DB. Although, they should probably double check the small print to make sure they haven't accidentally missed something important lol. Sometimes they do that I've noticed.
Pretty sure someone there does that for the admirals club already.
That's a conspiracy theory that can get you banned lol
Belle'Anna, I was going to say to him to be careful, as royalty may not care for such talk.
Well, sadly, my job won't let me work remotely from Framingham. Jerks. So, new plan. I'd like to request a workspace next to Erin Prince, please. Or maybe the bathroom. Bathroom is more likely.
Anyway. All I need is a computer. Which brings me to my next point...
Do you or someone you know live in or near Framingham, Mass? Are you computer literate enough to set up a computer, redo its power settings so it never goes to sleep, and install TeamViewer? Are you willing pop in once a month to make sure it hasn't been "accidentally" unplugged?
Then, you or someone you know, GOOD NEWS! I have an exciting freelance opportunity with Frankensilver Industries for you!
What's the pay you may ask? Well, sadly, all of our operating budget has to go to support our rent rolls (hey, just like DB!) so we really can't compensate you with cash. But we can compensate you with free beer, soda, and onsite fooda.
Well, what are you planning to do with this mystery, non-sleeping, very unpluggable computer? What kind of nefarious things are you brewing?
It's quite simple, really. We're going to broadcast to DB how badly they cronut whenever they cronut. Just little friendly reminders like -- "Remata'Klan was not an event character" or "POLYWATERGATE LIVES" or "What is the freaking price point on Killy, guys?" or "Were skirmishes broken all along or are you retconning more than just a blog post?"
Man. That's a lot of stuff to cover on just one screen.
Lol. I'm sure any contract you sign for sitting at those desks will contain a clause that you can't release insider information on DB. Although, they should probably double check the small print to make sure they haven't accidentally missed something important lol. Sometimes they do that I've noticed.
Pretty sure someone there does that for the admirals club already.
That's a conspiracy theory that can get you banned lol
Lol. I'm sure any contract you sign for sitting at those desks will contain a clause that you can't release insider information on DB. Although, they should probably double check the small print to make sure they haven't accidentally missed something important lol. Sometimes they do that I've noticed.
Pretty sure someone there does that for the admirals club already.
That's a conspiracy theory that can get you banned lol
Belle'Anna, I was going to say to him to be careful, as royalty may not care for such talk.
#truthisnottruth
Hey I’m not the one who threw that out in a thread that was swiftly removed once it was seen
Lol. I'm sure any contract you sign for sitting at those desks will contain a clause that you can't release insider information on DB. Although, they should probably double check the small print to make sure they haven't accidentally missed something important lol. Sometimes they do that I've noticed.
Pretty sure someone there does that for the admirals club already.
That's a conspiracy theory that can get you banned lol
Lol. I'm sure any contract you sign for sitting at those desks will contain a clause that you can't release insider information on DB. Although, they should probably double check the small print to make sure they haven't accidentally missed something important lol. Sometimes they do that I've noticed.
Pretty sure someone there does that for the admirals club already.
That's a conspiracy theory that can get you banned lol
Belle'Anna, I was going to say to him to be careful, as royalty may not care for such talk.
#truthisnottruth
Hey I’m not the one who threw that out in a thread that was swiftly removed once it was seen
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Excuse me, gotta go, Bro, and order some pizza. Hopefully I won't meet a half-crazed gunman while I'm waiting.
Sorry, just rambling there. Must have imagined I had control of a few nukes or something.
I really do need to eat, actually. Better make sure it's not GM otherwise it might turn me more gay or something. Or was that Nazi-created fluoride in the tap water? I can't remember.
Expect to be nerfed shortly Belle'Anna. You know it's a thing. Too cool. For school? Not good enough!
Well, sadly, my job won't let me work remotely from Framingham. Jerks. So, new plan. I'd like to request a workspace next to Erin Prince, please. Or maybe the bathroom. Bathroom is more likely.
Anyway. All I need is a computer. Which brings me to my next point...
Do you or someone you know live in or near Framingham, Mass? Are you computer literate enough to set up a computer, redo its power settings so it never goes to sleep, and install TeamViewer? Are you willing pop in once a month to make sure it hasn't been "accidentally" unplugged?
Then, you or someone you know, GOOD NEWS! I have an exciting freelance opportunity with Frankensilver Industries for you!
What's the pay you may ask? Well, sadly, all of our operating budget has to go to support our rent rolls (hey, just like DB!) so we really can't compensate you with cash. But we can compensate you with free beer, soda, and onsite fooda.
Well, what are you planning to do with this mystery, non-sleeping, very unpluggable computer? What kind of nefarious things are you brewing?
It's quite simple, really. We're going to broadcast to DB how badly they cronut whenever they cronut. Just little friendly reminders like -- "Remata'Klan was not an event character" or "POLYWATERGATE LIVES" or "What is the freaking price point on Killy, guys?" or "Were skirmishes broken all along or are you retconning more than just a blog post?"
Man. That's a lot of stuff to cover on just one screen.
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Well, sadly, my job won't let me work remotely from Framingham. Jerks. So, new plan. I'd like to request a workspace next to Erin Prince, please. Or maybe the bathroom. Bathroom is more likely.
Anyway. All I need is a computer. Which brings me to my next point...
Do you or someone you know live in or near Framingham, Mass? Are you computer literate enough to set up a computer, redo its power settings so it never goes to sleep, and install TeamViewer? Are you willing pop in once a month to make sure it hasn't been "accidentally" unplugged?
Then, you or someone you know, GOOD NEWS! I have an exciting freelance opportunity with Frankensilver Industries for you!
What's the pay you may ask? Well, sadly, all of our operating budget has to go to support our rent rolls (hey, just like DB!) so we really can't compensate you with cash. But we can compensate you with free beer, soda, and onsite fooda.
Well, what are you planning to do with this mystery, non-sleeping, very unpluggable computer? What kind of nefarious things are you brewing?
It's quite simple, really. We're going to broadcast to DB how badly they cronut whenever they cronut. Just little friendly reminders like -- "Remata'Klan was not an event character" or "POLYWATERGATE LIVES" or "What is the freaking price point on Killy, guys?" or "Were skirmishes broken all along or are you retconning more than just a blog post?"
Man. That's a lot of stuff to cover on just one screen.
Maybe we need two desks.
Please someone do this.
I'll throw in $20(CND) so like $5usd (total) for the wages of the brave sole who did the physical side on site.
Well, sadly, my job won't let me work remotely from Framingham. Jerks. So, new plan. I'd like to request a workspace next to Erin Prince, please. Or maybe the bathroom. Bathroom is more likely.
Anyway. All I need is a computer. Which brings me to my next point...
Do you or someone you know live in or near Framingham, Mass? Are you computer literate enough to set up a computer, redo its power settings so it never goes to sleep, and install TeamViewer? Are you willing pop in once a month to make sure it hasn't been "accidentally" unplugged?
Then, you or someone you know, GOOD NEWS! I have an exciting freelance opportunity with Frankensilver Industries for you!
What's the pay you may ask? Well, sadly, all of our operating budget has to go to support our rent rolls (hey, just like DB!) so we really can't compensate you with cash. But we can compensate you with free beer, soda, and onsite fooda.
Well, what are you planning to do with this mystery, non-sleeping, very unpluggable computer? What kind of nefarious things are you brewing?
It's quite simple, really. We're going to broadcast to DB how badly they cronut whenever they cronut. Just little friendly reminders like -- "Remata'Klan was not an event character" or "POLYWATERGATE LIVES" or "What is the freaking price point on Killy, guys?" or "Were skirmishes broken all along or are you retconning more than just a blog post?"
Man. That's a lot of stuff to cover on just one screen.
Maybe we need two desks.
Please someone do this.
I'll throw in $20(CND) so like $5usd (total) for the wages of the brave sole who did the physical side on site.
Rainbows and sunshine
I'll throw in a looney....er i mean loonie or two as well.
Wow this is really telling. Having thirty desk spaces and one conference room available for rent at a single location reeks of mismanagement. Between the lack of QA, the layoffs last year, declining arena participation, and now office space in their headquarters being up for rent, the warning signs are all there.
beer taps.
beer taps in a working environment.
beer taps where you may be working with customers and customer support.
beer taps where one wrong button press could take out the server.
beer taps.
I think I now understand why DB has so many problems.
There is nothing wrong with beer at home or socialising but beer in the work place is a recipe for disaster. Take it from me I know first hand.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw that. I mean, drinking beer at work could definitely result in mishaps.
Sheesh, I freakin’ love this game and this certainly does not bode well. Maybe we should all have a Kickstarter or GoFundMe set up for them, with certain stipulations.
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Do you or someone you know live in or near Framingham, Mass? Are you computer literate enough to set up a computer, redo its power settings so it never goes to sleep, and install TeamViewer? Are you willing pop in once a month to make sure it hasn't been "accidentally" unplugged?
Don't forget to configure TV so it's password doesn't randomly change after a reboot...
But not a bad idea. You'd need speakers too, so you can emit a sad trombone noise on every screw up.
You'd need speakers too, so you can emit a sad trombone noise on every screw up.
Where I'm seeing this line of thought going is the computer ends up being Geordi's probe from 'Interface' hovering around the office giving them electric shocks whenever a new crew has a missing trait.
beer taps.
beer taps in a working environment.
beer taps where you may be working with customers and customer support.
beer taps where one wrong button press could take out the server.
beer taps.
I think I now understand why DB has so many problems.
There is nothing wrong with beer at home or socialising but beer in the work place is a recipe for disaster. Take it from me I know first hand.
Beer taps aren't too bad - hits 3-4, work is done for the day, have a beer and a chill. Problem is when you've a lunchtime drinking culture and trying to be professional.
And if you can knock out a remote prod server with a single button press, then you've far bigger problems than drunk developers.
Where I'm seeing this line of thought going is the computer ends up being Geordi's probe from 'Interface' hovering around the office giving them electric shocks whenever a new crew has a missing trait.
well if three full fleets club together that's cheaper than a monthly card and you can all keep a close eye on the developers first hand, pitchforks optional.
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It's actually comical because all they need to do is treat their customers better and have less mess ups (like maybe take the number down to less than one oopsie per week) and a lot of us would spend more. If they end up in the ground they dug their own grave
But not a bad idea. You'd need speakers too, so you can emit a sad trombone noise on every screw up.
If you're going to have speakers then may i suggest installing a steam client on it as well. We could take the eventual next step of psychological warfare and continually blast Scotty's "no bloody A, B..." quote turned all the way up. or the constant hum of the warp core.
I doubt it. They took a lease out in expectations of things working out better, now find themselves with a pile of office space they can't fill and just want to offset the costs.
Having once worked at someplace where they undercharged and overpromised, they managed to hang on for years without the income stream DB has in place.
It's something funny to poke them with, but I doubt it's a sign they're about go bust.
Hey Folks-
Just a few things to note:
DB is *not* going out of business. This is not the sign of the end times. The sky is not falling.
If you did your due diligence, you would find that while in fact DB does have a very large office footprint, the idea of cross industry and company collaboration is something Jon Radoff has been after for a very, very long time. He even has a book on Amazon - you should check it out.
Back in Feb, they opened the new collaboration office up for business - he's had space(s) available for rent for 8 months. This isn't the desk of recently riff'd employees, but rather an area he paid to have custom stuff installed to attract young up-and-coming game devs from local startups or colleges to come in. Think of it as part think-tank and part talent scout.
At max, DB would get about $4k a month from bringing in additional bodies to the office. They get that monthly off two whales. That's not going to pay the light bill. DB is not insolvent and starting a going-out-of-business sale next week.
Also Fooda is not a typo - it's capitalized because it's a proper noun - it's a name of a catering company.
Thoughts on the beer situation: I haven't worked in tech so I don't know the culture there, but in every industry I've worked in drinking during working hours is considered grossly unprofessional at best (even if it's just after 4 on a friday) and a dangerous liability risk at worst. Again, I don't know how the mobile game industry operates, but I think I would be looking to eleminate risky luxuries before before laying off people and renting out office space.
I have no problem with DB renting out office space, but I don't know if it is wise to advertise it the way they are currently...it doesn't inspire confidence. Plus, when I read that they are looking for other game and tech start ups to collaborate with, it makes me think that management is looking to network and move on to the next project, not to have a quiet, steady-paying tenet while they work on improving STT.
This actually gives me hope because hopefully it is the sign of a game on it's last legs. M2W tanked and the show seems to be tanking as well. 2 major characters are leaving this season. On the other hand, CBS has 3 new ST projects on the way so that franchise is very healthy. Hopefully this means that some of the devs and artists from M2W will come back to STT and things will get back to where they were before the layoffs.
This is my 'glass is half full' outlook anyway.
And if my family wasn't firmly planted 3k miles away on the opposite coast, I would totally rent one of those offices and hook up my homebrew corny kegs to one of those taps and just hang for 8 hrs a day. I'd sit there with my feet up on my desk and call out " there's an awesome dumpster fire starting on the forum!"
lol
beer taps.
beer taps in a working environment.
beer taps where you may be working with customers and customer support.
beer taps where one wrong button press could take out the server.
beer taps.
With all this talk of beer and programming, I'm amazed I'm the first person to mention the Ballmer Peak.
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I’m going to assume you are not from the area, if you think that Framingham is in the middle of nowhere. The whole Metrowest area is a good alternative if you don’t want the high rent/high prices closer to Boston.
That's a conspiracy theory that can get you banned lol
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Belle'Anna, I was going to say to him to be careful, as royalty may not care for such talk.
That's a conspiracy theory that can get you banned lol
#truthisnottruth
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Anyway. All I need is a computer. Which brings me to my next point...
Do you or someone you know live in or near Framingham, Mass? Are you computer literate enough to set up a computer, redo its power settings so it never goes to sleep, and install TeamViewer? Are you willing pop in once a month to make sure it hasn't been "accidentally" unplugged?
Then, you or someone you know, GOOD NEWS! I have an exciting freelance opportunity with Frankensilver Industries for you!
What's the pay you may ask? Well, sadly, all of our operating budget has to go to support our rent rolls (hey, just like DB!) so we really can't compensate you with cash. But we can compensate you with free beer, soda, and onsite fooda.
Well, what are you planning to do with this mystery, non-sleeping, very unpluggable computer? What kind of nefarious things are you brewing?
It's quite simple, really. We're going to broadcast to DB how badly they cronut whenever they cronut. Just little friendly reminders like -- "Remata'Klan was not an event character" or "POLYWATERGATE LIVES" or "What is the freaking price point on Killy, guys?" or "Were skirmishes broken all along or are you retconning more than just a blog post?"
Man. That's a lot of stuff to cover on just one screen.
Maybe we need two desks.
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Hey I’m not the one who threw that out in a thread that was swiftly removed once it was seen
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Excuse me, gotta go, Bro, and order some pizza. Hopefully I won't meet a half-crazed gunman while I'm waiting.
Sorry, just rambling there. Must have imagined I had control of a few nukes or something.
I really do need to eat, actually. Better make sure it's not GM otherwise it might turn me more gay or something. Or was that Nazi-created fluoride in the tap water? I can't remember.
Expect to be nerfed shortly Belle'Anna. You know it's a thing. Too cool. For school? Not good enough!
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Please someone do this.
I'll throw in $20(CND) so like $5usd (total) for the wages of the brave sole who did the physical side on site.
Rainbows and sunshine
I'll throw in a looney....er i mean loonie or two as well.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw that. I mean, drinking beer at work could definitely result in mishaps.
Sheesh, I freakin’ love this game and this certainly does not bode well. Maybe we should all have a Kickstarter or GoFundMe set up for them, with certain stipulations.
Don't forget to configure TV so it's password doesn't randomly change after a reboot...
But not a bad idea. You'd need speakers too, so you can emit a sad trombone noise on every screw up.
Where I'm seeing this line of thought going is the computer ends up being Geordi's probe from 'Interface' hovering around the office giving them electric shocks whenever a new crew has a missing trait.
Beer taps aren't too bad - hits 3-4, work is done for the day, have a beer and a chill. Problem is when you've a lunchtime drinking culture and trying to be professional.
And if you can knock out a remote prod server with a single button press, then you've far bigger problems than drunk developers.
Really, there's not enough electricity for that
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If you're going to have speakers then may i suggest installing a steam client on it as well. We could take the eventual next step of psychological warfare and continually blast Scotty's "no bloody A, B..." quote turned all the way up. or the constant hum of the warp core.
I doubt it. They took a lease out in expectations of things working out better, now find themselves with a pile of office space they can't fill and just want to offset the costs.
Having once worked at someplace where they undercharged and overpromised, they managed to hang on for years without the income stream DB has in place.
It's something funny to poke them with, but I doubt it's a sign they're about go bust.
Yup, once Riker gets around to his 15 minutes once a day check of the forums, the end will be near.
Just a few things to note:
DB is *not* going out of business. This is not the sign of the end times. The sky is not falling.
If you did your due diligence, you would find that while in fact DB does have a very large office footprint, the idea of cross industry and company collaboration is something Jon Radoff has been after for a very, very long time. He even has a book on Amazon - you should check it out.
Back in Feb, they opened the new collaboration office up for business - he's had space(s) available for rent for 8 months. This isn't the desk of recently riff'd employees, but rather an area he paid to have custom stuff installed to attract young up-and-coming game devs from local startups or colleges to come in. Think of it as part think-tank and part talent scout.
At max, DB would get about $4k a month from bringing in additional bodies to the office. They get that monthly off two whales. That's not going to pay the light bill. DB is not insolvent and starting a going-out-of-business sale next week.
Also Fooda is not a typo - it's capitalized because it's a proper noun - it's a name of a catering company.
The hyperbole was fun, but misinformed.
I have no problem with DB renting out office space, but I don't know if it is wise to advertise it the way they are currently...it doesn't inspire confidence. Plus, when I read that they are looking for other game and tech start ups to collaborate with, it makes me think that management is looking to network and move on to the next project, not to have a quiet, steady-paying tenet while they work on improving STT.
This is my 'glass is half full' outlook anyway.
And if my family wasn't firmly planted 3k miles away on the opposite coast, I would totally rent one of those offices and hook up my homebrew corny kegs to one of those taps and just hang for 8 hrs a day. I'd sit there with my feet up on my desk and call out " there's an awesome dumpster fire starting on the forum!"
lol
With all this talk of beer and programming, I'm amazed I'm the first person to mention the Ballmer Peak.
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