Ultra Rare vs Legendary Citation
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I'm trying to figure out if I should save my honor up to 50,000 each time to get a Legendary Citation or if at 18,000 I should get an Ultra Rare Citation. Part of me thinks that I should wait for the Legendary because getting multiple copies of a character is pretty hard to do whereas Ultra Rares I can usually manage to get 3 copies during an event. But then I wonder if it might be better to FF/FE my purples because that would potentially help me do longer voyages which in turn will help me get better rewards. I currently can do about 5 - 5.5 hours consistently. With more maxed purples I think I'd be able to eventually get that to 8 hour voyages to reap a better tier of rewards.
What do you think: Save for the Legendary Citations or go for the Ultra Rare citations? I'd love to hear your reasoning behind your suggestion. Thanks!
What do you think: Save for the Legendary Citations or go for the Ultra Rare citations? I'd love to hear your reasoning behind your suggestion. Thanks!
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I only cite Legendaries if they're already at 4/5. Putting a second star on a Legendary isn't going to do much at all. You'll be disappointed.
I thought having more purples would allow me to more easily get the things I needed to get to golds. Is that not so?
I've been playing nearly two years. Most of my legendaries sit there doing absolutely nothing except taking up space. My immortal super-rares (purples) are on every shuttle and lots of voyages. Otherwise I'm freezing them. The legendaries sit BECAUSE I can't get stars for them as quickly. But it's a long trek between 1 and 5, and it isn't worth 50k honor a pop. Not unless they're already at 3 or 4/5.
This doesn't make sense. Do you mean your voyages last longer? That depends on the stats, not the "color" of the crew. Having legendaries there does not ensure you better "prizes" for the same amount of time.
The point is, do what you want with your honor, but be picky about what advice you choose to take.
That's good advice. Kind of a bummer that golds aren't significantly better than purples always.
Yes, i meant that I'd get longer voyages not that there was anything inherently more rewarding because of crew rarity.
True - I think the OP and I both mean the purples that end with events at 3/4. I usually cite those, if I haven't risked buying a pack. Most of the time it's so I can freeze them. But occasionally, they're new base stat monsters, so I keep them in my active crew. It actually works out pretty well, I'll have 18k honor saved up by the time another faction or skirmish event rolls around.
I definitely wouldn't add a citation to anyone who is in the pack/voyage rotation, because I know the moment I do, they'll pop up for me.
At this point I have very few FF/FE purps and feel a bit stagnant. I get what you are saying about being flooded in them but that seems like it's still going to be quite a ways away.
Exactly correct.
Kortar, Prisoner Cornwell, Surak, Bell Riots Bashir, Ru'Afo, and Guinan (she was at 4/5 when she left gauntlet for me).
I would have done Mirror Picard and Borg Queen but I got them other ways. The next one I might do is T'Kuvma, I just hate him. I'm thinking about putting a star on my Laborer Spock, who is 3/5 now. But I know that's when I'll get him in packs.
Why do you hate T'Kuvma?
For one thing, the guy talked like his mouth was full of cement. It took him FOREVER to speak, those were the slowest moments in the pilot episode. Plus, he dies like a bi...
Plus he looks like an Orc from Lord of the Rings.
Plus he's two-stat. Yes, so is Laborer Spock - but they're more useful of a two.
Of course a lot of this goes out the window if slots are an issue. In that case you might need to cite so you can freeze for crew space.
When choosing who to cite I usually look at how good they are for voyages. I’ll usually look and see who I have for top 50 voyage crew as a starting point and whoever I have closest to the top of that list gets the most consideration (some golds just aren’t worth citing). I don’t always cite up the top first though, sometimes I’ll go with someone lower in the list depending on skill combinations.
Before voyages I’d pay attention mostly to base stats and would look at the average of my top four in each skill to see where I needed the most work. While this can also be useful/helpful especially when you don’t have bonus crew for an event I’ve put less of an emphasis on it since voyages started.
I'm probably not the right person to ask, I have 314 immortals. My biggest problem right now is useless 1/5s taking up space in my crew. In fact, sometimes I cringe when I get a legendary behold with 3 people I know I don't want. I airlocked Abraham Lincoln the other day.
Abe wouldn't excite me much. I have airlocked a gold before but I don't remember who. As a new(ish) player the temptation to hold on to them with a kung-fu grip is strong but it's easier if I don't like the characters much.
When you say you look for how good they are for voyages do you mean their base stats or is there some other consideration?
If you're going to keep them in your active crew anyways, there's no need to cite them, they will still take up the slot whether 3/4 or 4/4. Base stats crew are only useful in shuttles, and stronger crew for daily shuttles don't matter, the difficulty just adjusts to keep you around 60% success rate. So they only matter for faction events. In faction events, the bigger determining factor of success is if you've got event crew or variants. Since this 3/4 is a brand new crew, they won't be event crew again for a while. So, the benefit of citing from 3/4 to 4/4 is only maybe a 1-2% bump in one shuttle on faction events, if that crew member is even useful for a slot.
I look at their voyage ranking and voyage stats (base plus average roll) on the spreadsheet PeachtreeRex maintains. (There is a tab for voyages)
https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/43/stt-level-100-spreadsheet#latest
Great resource! Thanks for the link.
Why would I waste a crew slot on a new event 3/4 if I can cite them and either get rid of them or use them. A 3/4 is of no use to me, unless they're crazy OP like Mirror Jadzia Dax. Who I cited anyway.
They probably wouldn't even get a seat on the shuttle.
- I cite all mega-event 5*s (even though they will get into the portal pool at some stage). I figure the odds of getting an all mega-event behold is pretty small.
- I cite Voyage-only 4*s. EDIT: Thot Gor has now dropped twice for me ... no more citations here for the immediate future.
- For a long time I cited all new 4* Threshold crew for Faction events (and now Skirmish) ... there were a couple of reasons for this:
a) The portal pool was just not getting updated by DB and I was getting stuck with a lot of 3/4 crew from Faction events that were clogging up my roster ... I had around 150k in Honor so decided to start from the event The Daystrom Award (Commander Chapel).
b) I was still missing a lot of the older crew, so I'd often get new crew in from Voyages (or the odd portal pull) ... there was a lot coming in but nothing going out.
c) I pretty much freeze all immortalised 4* crew anyway, especially if they are 2-skill. So hey, why not.
d) Last but not least ... I do not buy packs, so getting in new crew is pretty much only through Voyages and the Galaxy community pull.
--> However, with the mega-events coming at a more frequent pace now-a-days, and hopefully with more frequent portal updates, I just might revise my tactics.
My Honor has gone down since then ... even though I can make 18k between two Faction events in general, but with the introduction of Skirmish events too (I don't count Expedition, because we very rarely get them) that also only give out a 3/4 ... I'm starting to see a marked reduction ... I'm down to 60k ... we'll see what the upcoming event schedule throws us.
For example, I have Jannar sitting at 1/4 and is the 4th highest voyage score for a 4* in the game. But, if I were to FF/FE him, he wouldn't even crack the top 25 of my crew. He'd be behind a host of 5*s at various stages of fusions.
The only reason I would spend the honor to get a 4* cited up would be of I was running out of crew space and they had a trait linked to a relevant collection. I am neither running out of space nor am I so eager to finish off collections that I would sacrifice growing my 5*s.
Now I am looking to cite lawnmower man la forge who’s 2/5 because he is high ranking for voyages and not in the regular portal. I could finish mintakan riker who is 4/5 but he is quite low in rankings and in portal. So in short pick your best legendary preferably one that’s not in portal and build them up the better the legendary the more value you get out of using each citation. Also keep 50k in reserve for the next mega event, eventually purples will get put in to the portal and you have more chance they will drop so to my mind citing legendary is far better using 18k for a rare that will eventually only net you 200 honor the next time is far worse return.