So what does "finna" mean then? I've never heard the term.
It means going to or will do
Ta. I hate not knowing what a word means. It's obviously not reached this side of the Pond yet. :-)
I wouldn’t worry about not knowing this one. You’re only missing out on incorrect English
It's a mashup of the words "fixing to," like "gonna" from "going to." See also, tryna=trying to. Isn't American English great?
That isn't any type of English. At best it is jargon. It can charitably be called slang. It is most appropriately called illiterate devolution of the language. There may once have been a place for such shorthand, but it isn't necessary or cute now.
So what does "finna" mean then? I've never heard the term.
It means going to or will do
Ta. I hate not knowing what a word means. It's obviously not reached this side of the Pond yet. :-)
I wouldn’t worry about not knowing this one. You’re only missing out on incorrect English
It's a mashup of the words "fixing to," like "gonna" from "going to." See also, tryna=trying to. Isn't American English great?
That isn't any type of English. At best it is jargon. It can charitably be called slang. It is most appropriately called illiterate devolution of the language. There may once have been a place for such shorthand, but it isn't necessary or cute now.
U mad, bro? Language evolves, deal with it. Why can the word "ain't" be used as three different contractions, "are not," "am not" and "is not?"
So what does "finna" mean then? I've never heard the term.
It means going to or will do
Ta. I hate not knowing what a word means. It's obviously not reached this side of the Pond yet. :-)
I wouldn’t worry about not knowing this one. You’re only missing out on incorrect English
It's a mashup of the words "fixing to," like "gonna" from "going to." See also, tryna=trying to. Isn't American English great?
That isn't any type of English. At best it is jargon. It can charitably be called slang. It is most appropriately called illiterate devolution of the language. There may once have been a place for such shorthand, but it isn't necessary or cute now.
U mad, bro? Language evolves, deal with it. Why can the word "ain't" be used as three different contractions, "are not," "am not" and "is not?"
I think he was pretty tame in his response. Let’s not have a slap fest over who can describe it best. My point was it’s one thing to say it, it’s another to text it when you have a moment to think about what you’re going to say
So what does "finna" mean then? I've never heard the term.
It means going to or will do
Ta. I hate not knowing what a word means. It's obviously not reached this side of the Pond yet. :-)
It's short for "fixing to", correct? As in, "I'm fixin' to do that."
(And don't worry, Chance — it hasn't even hit all of the States yet. I only know about it second-hand from friends who have told me it's a regionalism where they come from.)
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Some of you should never come visit New Orleans if you get that worked up over language, you'll be likely to commit suicide (or mass homicide). Things like, "I'm finna go da market and make groceries", "Howya ma and dem?", "we gonna go aks dem querstions about da earl in da car...think weneeda earl change", and the like might push you over the edge.
So what does "finna" mean then? I've never heard the term.
It means going to or will do
Ta. I hate not knowing what a word means. It's obviously not reached this side of the Pond yet. :-)
I wouldn’t worry about not knowing this one. You’re only missing out on incorrect English
It's a mashup of the words "fixing to," like "gonna" from "going to." See also, tryna=trying to. Isn't American English great?
That isn't any type of English. At best it is jargon. It can charitably be called slang. It is most appropriately called illiterate devolution of the language. There may once have been a place for such shorthand, but it isn't necessary or cute now.
U mad, bro? Language evolves, deal with it. Why can the word "ain't" be used as three different contractions, "are not," "am not" and "is not?"
I think he was pretty tame in his response. Let’s not have a slap fest over who can describe it best. My point was it’s one thing to say it, it’s another to text it when you have a moment to think about what you’re going to say
I'm not tryna (XD) derail the thread, here. Honest. Just seemed like gatekeeping to me. I wonder, in a related vein, if there is a list of Trek jargon, changes to the language in the intervening centuries between today and 23xx AD. On topic, I approve of the change to ranked rewards, especially after DB announced that we would be getting Nog. It never made sense to me that the prize was more useful before you could use it. Hopefully they address the crush of players cramming into the top 1000 sooner rather than later. I advocate a percentage based tier system, like how Arena is handled. LLAP
Some of you should never come visit New Orleans if you get that worked up over language, you'll be likely to commit suicide (or mass homicide). Things like, "I'm finna go da market and make groceries", "Howya ma and dem?", "we gonna go aks dem querstions about da earl in da car...think weneeda earl change", and the like might push you over the edge.
Btw, none of that is a typo, it's phonetic.
One of the funniest nights of my life was watching my wife and my dad try to follow the speech in Treme when it first aired! 😂😂
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So what does "finna" mean then? I've never heard the term.
It means going to or will do
Ta. I hate not knowing what a word means. It's obviously not reached this side of the Pond yet. :-)
I wouldn’t worry about not knowing this one. You’re only missing out on incorrect English
It's a mashup of the words "fixing to," like "gonna" from "going to." See also, tryna=trying to. Isn't American English great?
That isn't any type of English. At best it is jargon. It can charitably be called slang. It is most appropriately called illiterate devolution of the language. There may once have been a place for such shorthand, but it isn't necessary or cute now.
U mad, bro? Language evolves, deal with it. Why can the word "ain't" be used as three different contractions, "are not," "am not" and "is not?"
I am very hard to anger (except by my daughters who know exactly what buttons to press). Nothing there is said or intended as being upset. I comment for something to do, not because it drives me crazy or any such. Colloquialisms, slang, and jargon, along with ridiculous new words have place in humor and some situations. However, I object to them being called legitimate English or an "evolution" of the language. The English language includes more than enough vocabulary to effectively express your ideas without lazy and illiterate shortcuts. I use some of those shortcuts in some settings, but I never pretend they are equal to proper language. I feel the same about French and Cebuano, in both of which I am fluent, and in as much Spanish as I have learned. Language can be very powerful. Again, I don't object to shortcuts and so forth in appropriate situations or when brevity is key. Nor do I wish to insult anyone who uses such, especially when space is an issue. However, we should agree that they are not proper and should not be regarded as improvements.
So what does "finna" mean then? I've never heard the term.
It means going to or will do
Ta. I hate not knowing what a word means. It's obviously not reached this side of the Pond yet. :-)
I wouldn’t worry about not knowing this one. You’re only missing out on incorrect English
It's a mashup of the words "fixing to," like "gonna" from "going to." See also, tryna=trying to. Isn't American English great?
That isn't any type of English. At best it is jargon. It can charitably be called slang. It is most appropriately called illiterate devolution of the language. There may once have been a place for such shorthand, but it isn't necessary or cute now.
U mad, bro? Language evolves, deal with it. Why can the word "ain't" be used as three different contractions, "are not," "am not" and "is not?"
I am very hard to anger (except by my daughters who know exactly what buttons to press). Nothing there is said or intended as being upset. I comment for something to do, not because it drives me crazy or any such. Colloquialisms, slang, and jargon, along with ridiculous new words have place in humor and some situations. However, I object to them being called legitimate English or an "evolution" of the language. The English language includes more than enough vocabulary to effectively express your ideas without lazy and illiterate shortcuts. I use some of those shortcuts in some settings, but I never pretend they are equal to proper language. I feel the same about French and Cebuano, in both of which I am fluent, and in as much Spanish as I have learned. Language can be very powerful. Again, I don't object to shortcuts and so forth in appropriate situations or when brevity is key. Nor do I wish to insult anyone who uses such, especially when space is an issue. However, we should agree that they are not proper and should not be regarded as improvements.
Objection noted. It seemed to me that the severity and emphatic nature of your comment was indignant, not angry, and my flip comment "U mad, bro?" is only in jest, hence the Twitter slang-iness. I actually agree for the most part and in my opinion the 'word' "bae" should die a whimpering and unnoticed death without a grave marker. You have my compliments on your multi-lingual ability. I am an American morbidly amused by my fellow citizens who are critical of others in our country for whom English is a second language when they themselves can't use the proper "your," "their" or "too" in a sentence, not to mention spelling. *sigh* But, I think that new and compounded words are able to enhance meanings and are their own poetry in the proper perspective.
I was 'gonna' say, "U mad, bro?" was the most meta and perfect response to this entire thread! I am glad 'ya'll' got that sorted.
Not to stir up the hornet's nest, but it seems a tab 'bouji' to object to slang or derivative forms of speech/language with such a broad stroke. An ancient Roman would probably have similar thoughts about our modern romance languages, and it would not invalidate their usage today or be considered a call to change our languages.
Do I want my nation's leader to greet another head of state with a fist bump while hollering, "Yo thug, what's the happy haps?!" Most definitely not, and I think your point about society needing a base line formality in language for broad communication is important, but very quickly beyond that it is rather off-putting to continue to take shots at slang, jargon, etc. The point of language is to communicate thoughts and ideas, and if those can be communicated using non-standard forms and the receiver can understand it, mission accomplished.
So what does "finna" mean then? I've never heard the term.
It means going to or will do
Ta. I hate not knowing what a word means. It's obviously not reached this side of the Pond yet. :-)
I wouldn’t worry about not knowing this one. You’re only missing out on incorrect English
It's a mashup of the words "fixing to," like "gonna" from "going to." See also, tryna=trying to. Isn't American English great?
That isn't any type of English. At best it is jargon. It can charitably be called slang. It is most appropriately called illiterate devolution of the language. There may once have been a place for such shorthand, but it isn't necessary or cute now.
U mad, bro? Language evolves, deal with it. Why can the word "ain't" be used as three different contractions, "are not," "am not" and "is not?"
I think he was pretty tame in his response. Let’s not have a slap fest over who can describe it best. My point was it’s one thing to say it, it’s another to text it when you have a moment to think about what you’re going to say
I'm not tryna (XD) derail the thread, here. Honest. Just seemed like gatekeeping to me. I wonder, in a related vein, if there is a list of Trek jargon, changes to the language in the intervening centuries between today and 23xx AD. On topic, I approve of the change to ranked rewards, especially after DB announced that we would be getting Nog. It never made sense to me that the prize was more useful before you could use it. Hopefully they address the crush of players cramming into the top 1000 sooner rather than later. I advocate a percentage based tier system, like how Arena is handled. LLAP
Sure, for example in the original series, at least in season 1, they called shields screens
So what does "finna" mean then? I've never heard the term.
It means going to or will do
Ta. I hate not knowing what a word means. It's obviously not reached this side of the Pond yet. :-)
I wouldn’t worry about not knowing this one. You’re only missing out on incorrect English
It's a mashup of the words "fixing to," like "gonna" from "going to." See also, tryna=trying to. Isn't American English great?
That isn't any type of English. At best it is jargon. It can charitably be called slang. It is most appropriately called illiterate devolution of the language. There may once have been a place for such shorthand, but it isn't necessary or cute now.
U mad, bro? Language evolves, deal with it. Why can the word "ain't" be used as three different contractions, "are not," "am not" and "is not?"
I am very hard to anger (except by my daughters who know exactly what buttons to press). Nothing there is said or intended as being upset. I comment for something to do, not because it drives me crazy or any such. Colloquialisms, slang, and jargon, along with ridiculous new words have place in humor and some situations. However, I object to them being called legitimate English or an "evolution" of the language. The English language includes more than enough vocabulary to effectively express your ideas without lazy and illiterate shortcuts. I use some of those shortcuts in some settings, but I never pretend they are equal to proper language. I feel the same about French and Cebuano, in both of which I am fluent, and in as much Spanish as I have learned. Language can be very powerful. Again, I don't object to shortcuts and so forth in appropriate situations or when brevity is key. Nor do I wish to insult anyone who uses such, especially when space is an issue. However, we should agree that they are not proper and should not be regarded as improvements.
Objection noted. It seemed to me that the severity and emphatic nature of your comment was indignant, not angry, and my flip comment "U mad, bro?" is only in jest, hence the Twitter slang-iness. I actually agree for the most part and in my opinion the 'word' "bae" should die a whimpering and unnoticed death without a grave marker. You have my compliments on your multi-lingual ability. I am an American morbidly amused by my fellow citizens who are critical of others in our country for whom English is a second language when they themselves can't use the proper "your," "their" or "too" in a sentence, not to mention spelling. *sigh* But, I think that new and compounded words are able to enhance meanings and are their own poetry in the proper perspective.
Lol. :-) Shakespeare was fond of inventing new words (or maybe it was just existing slang that no-one had used in writing before). No doubt many people were outraged at the time. :-)
I was 'gonna' say, "U mad, bro?" was the most meta and perfect response to this entire thread! I am glad 'ya'll' got that sorted.
Not to stir up the hornet's nest, but it seems a tab 'bouji' to object to slang or derivative forms of speech/language with such a broad stroke. An ancient Roman would probably have similar thoughts about our modern romance languages, and it would not invalidate their usage today or be considered a call to change our languages.
Do I want my nation's leader to greet another head of state with a fist bump while hollering, "Yo thug, what's the happy haps?!" Most definitely not, and I think your point about society needing a base line formality in language for broad communication is important, but very quickly beyond that it is rather off-putting to continue to take shots at slang, jargon, etc. The point of language is to communicate thoughts and ideas, and if those can be communicated using non-standard forms and the receiver can understand it, mission accomplished.
Bingo.
Language change is a completely natural process, only slowed by the creation of the written word.
A perfect example is European French vs Quebec French - they were exactly the same some 400 years ago when the colonization of the Americas started. But Quebec ended up being alone in a sea of English, whereas France has always been surrounded by other languages. What happened? European French evolved in one direction, borrowing from the languages around it, to the point where many words in common use are loan words ("parker" instead of "stationner" to describe parking a car, for example). Quebec, on the other, took on a much more protectionist stance which means that the language hasn't been able to evolve naturally - and in fact a Frenchman in 1800 would have an easier time understanding a Quebecer today than a contemporary Frenchman. Which process is better? Personally, I lean toward natural evolution.
For more about this, please consider reading up on language change (Wikipedia has a decent write up on it) rather than outright trashing it.
I’m honestly not sure how this thread happened....
I also am not quite sure how it got derailed but if memory serves this is the second discussion we’ve had on the nature and validity of new English dialects in the last year.
I’m honestly not sure how this thread happened....
I also am not quite sure how it got derailed but if memory serves this is the second discussion we’ve had on the nature and validity of new English dialects in the last year.
I’m honestly not sure how this thread happened....
I also am not quite sure how it got derailed but if memory serves this is the second discussion we’ve had on the nature and validity of new English dialects in the last year.
You are correct...at least twice, maybe more.
Yeah. We were all hovering around The Bridge waiting for the event post. Had to have something to do while we waited right?
I’m honestly not sure how this thread happened....
I also am not quite sure how it got derailed but if memory serves this is the second discussion we’ve had on the nature and validity of new English dialects in the last year.
It was my initial comment about Americans saying “I could care less” instead of “I couldn’t care less”... didn’t mean to hijack the thread. Peace!
I’m honestly not sure how this thread happened....
I also am not quite sure how it got derailed but if memory serves this is the second discussion we’ve had on the nature and validity of new English dialects in the last year.
It was my initial comment about Americans saying “I could care less” instead of “I couldn’t care less”... didn’t mean to hijack the thread. Peace!
No worries. I’m of the opinion that as long as it’s interesting the direction doesn’t matter
And it's all about holograms? Since it will be October, why not do "dark" versions of crew (i.e. Warship Janeway)? Mirror characters, assimilated characters, etc?
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I wouldn’t worry about not knowing this one. You’re only missing out on incorrect English
It's a mashup of the words "fixing to," like "gonna" from "going to." See also, tryna=trying to. Isn't American English great?
That isn't any type of English. At best it is jargon. It can charitably be called slang. It is most appropriately called illiterate devolution of the language. There may once have been a place for such shorthand, but it isn't necessary or cute now.
U mad, bro? Language evolves, deal with it. Why can the word "ain't" be used as three different contractions, "are not," "am not" and "is not?"
I think he was pretty tame in his response. Let’s not have a slap fest over who can describe it best. My point was it’s one thing to say it, it’s another to text it when you have a moment to think about what you’re going to say
It's short for "fixing to", correct? As in, "I'm fixin' to do that."
(And don't worry, Chance — it hasn't even hit all of the States yet. I only know about it second-hand from friends who have told me it's a regionalism where they come from.)
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Btw, none of that is a typo, it's phonetic.
I'm not tryna (XD) derail the thread, here. Honest. Just seemed like gatekeeping to me. I wonder, in a related vein, if there is a list of Trek jargon, changes to the language in the intervening centuries between today and 23xx AD. On topic, I approve of the change to ranked rewards, especially after DB announced that we would be getting Nog. It never made sense to me that the prize was more useful before you could use it. Hopefully they address the crush of players cramming into the top 1000 sooner rather than later. I advocate a percentage based tier system, like how Arena is handled. LLAP
One of the funniest nights of my life was watching my wife and my dad try to follow the speech in Treme when it first aired! 😂😂
https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/5023/qh-the-oldest-fleet-in-timelines-l91-starbase-daily-targets-met
I am very hard to anger (except by my daughters who know exactly what buttons to press). Nothing there is said or intended as being upset. I comment for something to do, not because it drives me crazy or any such. Colloquialisms, slang, and jargon, along with ridiculous new words have place in humor and some situations. However, I object to them being called legitimate English or an "evolution" of the language. The English language includes more than enough vocabulary to effectively express your ideas without lazy and illiterate shortcuts. I use some of those shortcuts in some settings, but I never pretend they are equal to proper language. I feel the same about French and Cebuano, in both of which I am fluent, and in as much Spanish as I have learned. Language can be very powerful. Again, I don't object to shortcuts and so forth in appropriate situations or when brevity is key. Nor do I wish to insult anyone who uses such, especially when space is an issue. However, we should agree that they are not proper and should not be regarded as improvements.
Objection noted. It seemed to me that the severity and emphatic nature of your comment was indignant, not angry, and my flip comment "U mad, bro?" is only in jest, hence the Twitter slang-iness. I actually agree for the most part and in my opinion the 'word' "bae" should die a whimpering and unnoticed death without a grave marker. You have my compliments on your multi-lingual ability. I am an American morbidly amused by my fellow citizens who are critical of others in our country for whom English is a second language when they themselves can't use the proper "your," "their" or "too" in a sentence, not to mention spelling. *sigh* But, I think that new and compounded words are able to enhance meanings and are their own poetry in the proper perspective.
Not to stir up the hornet's nest, but it seems a tab 'bouji' to object to slang or derivative forms of speech/language with such a broad stroke. An ancient Roman would probably have similar thoughts about our modern romance languages, and it would not invalidate their usage today or be considered a call to change our languages.
Do I want my nation's leader to greet another head of state with a fist bump while hollering, "Yo thug, what's the happy haps?!" Most definitely not, and I think your point about society needing a base line formality in language for broad communication is important, but very quickly beyond that it is rather off-putting to continue to take shots at slang, jargon, etc. The point of language is to communicate thoughts and ideas, and if those can be communicated using non-standard forms and the receiver can understand it, mission accomplished.
Sure, for example in the original series, at least in season 1, they called shields screens
Lol. :-) Shakespeare was fond of inventing new words (or maybe it was just existing slang that no-one had used in writing before). No doubt many people were outraged at the time. :-)
Bingo.
Language change is a completely natural process, only slowed by the creation of the written word.
A perfect example is European French vs Quebec French - they were exactly the same some 400 years ago when the colonization of the Americas started. But Quebec ended up being alone in a sea of English, whereas France has always been surrounded by other languages. What happened? European French evolved in one direction, borrowing from the languages around it, to the point where many words in common use are loan words ("parker" instead of "stationner" to describe parking a car, for example). Quebec, on the other, took on a much more protectionist stance which means that the language hasn't been able to evolve naturally - and in fact a Frenchman in 1800 would have an easier time understanding a Quebecer today than a contemporary Frenchman. Which process is better? Personally, I lean toward natural evolution.
For more about this, please consider reading up on language change (Wikipedia has a decent write up on it) rather than outright trashing it.
I also am not quite sure how it got derailed but if memory serves this is the second discussion we’ve had on the nature and validity of new English dialects in the last year.
Well the original excuse was boredom, right @Banjo1012 ?
You are correct...at least twice, maybe more.
Yeah. We were all hovering around The Bridge waiting for the event post. Had to have something to do while we waited right?
It was my initial comment about Americans saying “I could care less” instead of “I couldn’t care less”... didn’t mean to hijack the thread. Peace!
No worries. I’m of the opinion that as long as it’s interesting the direction doesn’t matter
So people have shortened "fixing to" or "fixin ta" down to finna??
Yes, "fittin' to" as well.
4 weeks.
It will seem much longer...
And it's all about holograms? Since it will be October, why not do "dark" versions of crew (i.e. Warship Janeway)? Mirror characters, assimilated characters, etc?
This. So much this!
Yellow Alert and 1/4 impulse. Shields up.