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  • [TFA] Celeres[TFA] Celeres ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    It’s useful info for DB, as it certainly helps to establish a pecking order between these two event types. Even taking into consideration that this week’s featured crew are likely not getting people to throw the kitchen sink, the level of participation in phase 2 is pitiful. The last time we didn’t hit the ceiling was comfortably inside the game’s first year, I am fairly sure.

    And why *shouldn’t* the level of engagement with this galaxy phase be pitiful? Skirmish is a less involved grind, and it actually gives you stuff in exchange for your participation. If you’re going to weight your resource expenditure towards one mode or the other, there’s literally no reason to prioritize galaxy. This is so clean cut, it could be an example in a microeconomics textbook.
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  • ProontProont ✭✭✭✭✭
    ByloBand wrote: »
    9.5 hours into phase 2, still only 423,000,000. This is so interesting! I'm no longer certain we will hit the 1,000,000,000!

    I hope we get there, but I'm doubtful.
  • Bylo BandBylo Band ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am sitting here looking at the ticker, and it is moving so slowly I can see each individual number scrolling!
  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Proont wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    9.5 hours into phase 2, still only 423,000,000. This is so interesting! I'm no longer certain we will hit the 1,000,000,000!

    I hope we get there, but I'm doubtful.

    We're not even halfway through phase 2, and there are no doubt a lot of players hanging on to rare rewards until Sunday night/Monday morning as well — so I think we'll definitely get to the final community reward. It may take a while, but we'll make it.


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  • ProontProont ✭✭✭✭✭
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Proont wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    9.5 hours into phase 2, still only 423,000,000. This is so interesting! I'm no longer certain we will hit the 1,000,000,000!

    I hope we get there, but I'm doubtful.

    We're not even halfway through phase 2, and there are no doubt a lot of players hanging on to rare rewards until Sunday night/Monday morning as well — so I think we'll definitely get to the final community reward. It may take a while, but we'll make it.

    I keep forgetting there are people who hold on to their rare rewards. I always turn mine in immediately.
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    ~400k/min. If we keep this pace we'll hit 1B no problem.
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  • It’s useful info for DB, as it certainly helps to establish a pecking order between these two event types. Even taking into consideration that this week’s featured crew are likely not getting people to throw the kitchen sink, the level of participation in phase 2 is pitiful. The last time we didn’t hit the ceiling was comfortably inside the game’s first year, I am fairly sure.

    And why *shouldn’t* the level of engagement with this galaxy phase be pitiful? Skirmish is a less involved grind, and it actually gives you stuff in exchange for your participation. If you’re going to weight your resource expenditure towards one mode or the other, there’s literally no reason to prioritize galaxy. This is so clean cut, it could be an example in a microeconomics textbook.

    If I understand the game mechanics correctly, from what I've read on the forums the average galaxy recipe is around 80 chrons in cost and nets you 1025 in VP at max plus up to 3 SR prizes for additional VP. Spend 120 chrons in the Skirmish portion though and you can net 6000VP and potentially replace the chrons you just spent. It's a no brainer from my perspective.
  • Paladin 27Paladin 27 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It’s useful info for DB, as it certainly helps to establish a pecking order between these two event types. Even taking into consideration that this week’s featured crew are likely not getting people to throw the kitchen sink, the level of participation in phase 2 is pitiful. The last time we didn’t hit the ceiling was comfortably inside the game’s first year, I am fairly sure.

    And why *shouldn’t* the level of engagement with this galaxy phase be pitiful? Skirmish is a less involved grind, and it actually gives you stuff in exchange for your participation. If you’re going to weight your resource expenditure towards one mode or the other, there’s literally no reason to prioritize galaxy. This is so clean cut, it could be an example in a microeconomics textbook.

    If I understand the game mechanics correctly, from what I've read on the forums the average galaxy recipe is around 80 chrons in cost and nets you 1025 in VP at max plus up to 3 SR prizes for additional VP. Spend 120 chrons in the Skirmish portion though and you can net 6000VP and potentially replace the chrons you just spent. It's a no brainer from my perspective.

    I’d also add that a lot of the galaxy costs commonly referred to are at best misleading.

    1. They don’t lower costs for missions that drop more than one relevent item.

    2. They don’t lower costs for items you should prefarm during a skirmish at a much lower cost.


  • Bylo BandBylo Band ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paladin 27 wrote: »
    It’s useful info for DB, as it certainly helps to establish a pecking order between these two event types. Even taking into consideration that this week’s featured crew are likely not getting people to throw the kitchen sink, the level of participation in phase 2 is pitiful. The last time we didn’t hit the ceiling was comfortably inside the game’s first year, I am fairly sure.

    And why *shouldn’t* the level of engagement with this galaxy phase be pitiful? Skirmish is a less involved grind, and it actually gives you stuff in exchange for your participation. If you’re going to weight your resource expenditure towards one mode or the other, there’s literally no reason to prioritize galaxy. This is so clean cut, it could be an example in a microeconomics textbook.

    If I understand the game mechanics correctly, from what I've read on the forums the average galaxy recipe is around 80 chrons in cost and nets you 1025 in VP at max plus up to 3 SR prizes for additional VP. Spend 120 chrons in the Skirmish portion though and you can net 6000VP and potentially replace the chrons you just spent. It's a no brainer from my perspective.

    I’d also add that a lot of the galaxy costs commonly referred to are at best misleading.

    1. They don’t lower costs for missions that drop more than one relevent item.

    2. They don’t lower costs for items you should prefarm during a skirmish at a much lower cost.


    Agreed on both counts. Also, congratulations on your current top event rank!
  • SMMSMM ✭✭✭
    From the galaxy portion I'm netting about 90k credits every 10 minutes or so. This is about 100 honour plus items on a x10 basic crew pull. There is also a possibility of a behold.
  • Mirror CartmanMirror Cartman ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have claimed all the galaxy community rewards without participating in the galaxy portion, i.e. I have not built or handed in any recopies.
    I started a skirmish about half an hour before the end of the skirmish phase, did two battles, then was busy at work. After the galaxy phase had started I clicked on the event button, and it told me that the skirmish half had ended.

    I now have four copies of Pabst, and 500 honour from the community pull.

    During the skirmish phase I farm expensive components. 2* and 3* databases, basic sensors (useful in the galaxy phase), some 3* clothing. The databases are useful for gearing up crew.
  • I have claimed all the galaxy community rewards without participating in the galaxy portion, i.e. I have not built or handed in any recopies.

    Same here and I’m not even short on items for it (thanks, skirmish event!) I just find galaxy events mind-numbingly dull. I’m loving how hybrid galaxy events means nobody participates in the galaxy portion. Take the hint, DB
  • Ishmael MarxIshmael Marx ✭✭✭✭✭
    I doubt the disparity in activity would exist if the 5* rank character was Captain Spock rather than Layna. Layna's popularity and value (one-off with average stats) are not enough to motivate a strong phase 2 push by many players. Substitute a different rank reward and I'm sure the galaxy phase would have been equally active.
  • 36hrs down, 12 more to go. Holding at 975th place. How much will the last minute SR rush hurt me? Only time will tell. Still hoping for top 2500. :#
  • 36hrs down, 12 more to go. Holding at 975th place. How much will the last minute SR rush hurt me? Only time will tell. Still hoping for top 2500. :#

    You should make top 2500. I would guess you will be below 2000. I am almost out of chrons, and will go in later and use the rest. Want to finish below 1000. Dropped about 100 positions last night, just below you.
  • Ren~Ren~ ✭✭✭✭✭
    It’s useful info for DB, as it certainly helps to establish a pecking order between these two event types. Even taking into consideration that this week’s featured crew are likely not getting people to throw the kitchen sink, the level of participation in phase 2 is pitiful. The last time we didn’t hit the ceiling was comfortably inside the game’s first year, I am fairly sure.

    And why *shouldn’t* the level of engagement with this galaxy phase be pitiful? Skirmish is a less involved grind, and it actually gives you stuff in exchange for your participation. If you’re going to weight your resource expenditure towards one mode or the other, there’s literally no reason to prioritize galaxy. This is so clean cut, it could be an example in a microeconomics textbook.

    If anything it's a hint that the event rewards structure has been messed up since the start. It's absurd that only 25 players are getting more than one copy of a legendary card, hence the low participation numbers.

    There is indeed no point in participating in the galaxy part if you're not that interested in the legendary character because there's nothing to fight for. I'd bet more people would give it a try if it was possible to get 2 or 3 golds without buying your way up the ladder, but with your horizon restricted to one lousy card it's not worth the time and resources you have to put into the event.

    There are 100k players (yes I've been able to verify that by checking how i'd rank with the minimum VP late into an event) and only 1% get the gold card, and only 0.025% of these 1% are getting more than one copy. It doesn't take a degree in economy to understand why participation numbers are low. It takes a very desirable card for people to bother with a dead crew slot and a 1/5.
  • This has been a complaint on the forums for over a year, and even if the rewards structure gets an update, I'm not holding my breath for more 5* cards to be handed out. A larger threshold table and expanded community rewards (1500 honor @2 Billon VP for example) would have a greater impact on participation than expanding the 5* rewards in IMO.
  • Ren~Ren~ ✭✭✭✭✭
    This has been a complaint on the forums for over a year, and even if the rewards structure gets an update, I'm not holding my breath for more 5* cards to be handed out. A larger threshold table and expanded community rewards (1500 honor @2 Billon VP for example) would have a greater impact on participation than expanding the 5* rewards in IMO.

    That's not enough. To increase participation you have to give something people really want in return. I really don't see the incentive if the last threshold reward is 1500 honour. Yes honour is nice but 1500 is a pittance, it's not worth wasting thousands of chronitons. The major reason people play this game is getting more or better cards so that's what has to be given, anything esle can and will be ignored.
  • 36hrs down, 12 more to go. Holding at 975th place. How much will the last minute SR rush hurt me? Only time will tell. Still hoping for top 2500. :#

    You should make top 2500. I would guess you will be below 2000. I am almost out of chrons, and will go in later and use the rest. Want to finish below 1000. Dropped about 100 positions last night, just below you.

    So much for the last minute turn-in causing a precipitous fall in the standings. Final result: 1161 with about 507k VP. That's less than 100 spots. Was there a glitch at the end or was the participation really that low? For the record, I processed a few recipes and increased my score from 503k to 507k about 3 hours from the end.
  • Mr. LincolnMr. Lincoln ✭✭✭✭✭
    I went to sleep at 106, woke up at 113. Granted, usually not a whole lot of movement in that zone but still.
  • Picard loves Reds. I finished 1004. Which I had spent my last 200 Chrons. Might have made the top 1000.
  • Close, better luck next time. I was surpeised at how well I finished. Skirmishes are definitely my favorite, followed by faction. Hoping to add Goddess Troi to my crew next weekend.
  • I have at one star from the first event. Will be nice to get a second. And I hope Apollo is Threshold. Then I will hold him at level 100 with nothing equipped. I have Kirk FFFE.
  • Both Kirk and Apollo are FFFE for me. Playing for the Goddess and I hope to make it to the honor threshold if it is available. The rest will be honor for my upcoming citation of the Caretaker or the next mega.
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