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  • I got another three-seater again last night, if anyone else wants to call me a liar.........

    Nobody called you a liar. Yourself stated that you only were „98%“ sure, and i only replied that i am 100% sure that it wasn t a 3 seater.

    Its highly unlikely that nobody of the Top 50 fleets hasn t seen any 3 seater, but you claim to have. Missions are same for everyone, and many players always have the max amount of missions open, so clearly someone else would have noticed if there were some random 3 seat missions popping up. ;)
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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    I cannot do screenshots on the tablet. Y'all have a nice day. Since I did not know that non-Event Shuttles could give Event Points, I guess I got super lucky.............



    I'm done...........
    You can screenshot you just do not know how to do it.
    If you say what kind of operating system you have on your tablet, some one will let you know how to do it.

    Not sure, but you could mistake a returning shuttle for a three seater.
    The game only shows your crew on return. If you are in a squadron and using the shared crew, you will only see your three crew on a four seater on return.

    On iOS you have to hit the power button and the home button at the same time to get a screenshot.

    Well, then. It could be the shared Crew thing. Which someone could have mentioned before I was called a liar not once but TWICE. I am sorry I was unclear on the tablet issue. I guess I hoped people could pick up by context the issue is that I don't know how to do it. The "manual" that came with the tablet is a single folded sheet if paper., The size of a pack of stamps. I am home sick, and worried about being fired for it Monday. Why don't y'all just declare "victory" in this thread and we can all move on.



    Unil the next time I make a mistake and the "community" can dogpile again.............
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  • kapukapu ✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    Unil the next time I make a mistake and the "community" can dogpile again.............
    ding ding ding, that's a typo! :DD

    but dude, lighten up... I used my phone for 2 years before needing to take a screenshot and then I googled it... Took me like 5 tries to get it to work the first time and still does every time... the timing is so tight it is super annoying.
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    On iOS you have to hit the power button and the home button at the same time to get a screenshot.
    it's the same for my Samsung J5, but super picky on the timing...
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  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    kapu wrote: »
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    On iOS you have to hit the power button and the home button at the same time to get a screenshot.
    it's the same for my Samsung J5, but super picky on the timing...

    On my tablet it's a simultaneous press of the power button and the volume down button — and yes, usually takes me a few tries to get it to work. That's one reason why Steam is nice, just a quick F12 whenever you wanna screen grab something. :)


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  • FlemmingFlemming ✭✭✭✭✭
    On my previous Samsung tablet it was a full "Handswipe" from right to left (and very kludgy),
    I just bought a new one, same brand, and the new OS was nice to provide an InGame app which runs in parallel and that has a screen grab feature.
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  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am not about to say that @DScottHewitt did not have another DB bug and actually had the three seaters that DB intended.

    I get a kick out of seeing people basically say, by denying it could happen, that DBs bug could not also had a bug.

    I do agree that it is unlikely for a bug to effect only a few people, so I tried to figure what DScottHewitt might have seen. The only thought was on the return of a four seat shuttle that had the shared squadrons leader crew. Those shuttles on return only show your own three crew. This could mislead one into thinking it was a three seater.

    But again I cannot say with a 100% certainty that a bugged event worked as unintended.
  • SoupKitchen RikerSoupKitchen Riker ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    People are surprised there was a mistake with the event? That’s akin to having your mind blown because water is wet. It is what it is...give DB the constructive criticism and hope that at some point they invest in quality control that works. Could some people have seen 3 slot shuttles? Sure, glitches happen. The same way DB intended for there to be 3 slot shuttles, some people might have had them show up. While I find that improbable, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility.
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  • 100% sure Ive run 3 seater shuttles this event on Bajoran and Terran Empire factions.
  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    100% sure Ive run 3 seater shuttles this event on Bajoran and Terran Empire factions.

    I was able to cherry pick using only one faction. I used section 31.
    I did not get any three seaters for section 31. But again it still does not mean that section 31 did not have a bug too that would give some three seaters.
  • FlemmingFlemming ✭✭✭✭✭
    I ran only Section 31, cause I needed holoprograms.
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  • Shan wrote: »
    Thank you for the additional info provided regarding missions seats.

    We did intend for this particular event to have a mix of 3, 4 and 5 missions seats. As you have noticed this ended up not being the case.

    This does not mean that the event is broken however, and no change will be made.

    Well, I can appreciate not wanting to make any changes, but claiming it isn't broken is an economy of truth. The first phase was functional, but it wasn't working as intended, which is pretty much what 'broken' means.

    If DB ever decide to expand into the pet shop industry, may I suggest the Norwegian Blue parrot as a suitable stock?

    It gave me an early finish anyway, once I'd got the 5* item it was time to tap out.
  • Bylo BandBylo Band ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    BROKEN (adjective): having been fractured or damaged and no longer in one piece or in working order.

    I find this truly fascinating as based on this definition, all sides are correct! The key phrase seems to be 'in working order'; that in my opinion allows for the explanation of the event not working as intended. The event still worked, so was arguably still in working order and therefore not broken. So IMO Shan is correct.

    However (as Tuvok is fond of saying) broken also means 'damaged' so everyone saying the event is broken because it was not working properly are also IMO correct.

    Isn't language fun?!
  • No answer will make things perfect again. Some people in this situation would win the lottery on getting a ton of time boosts while others would be stuck with extra 3* or 4* reward boosts, therefore opening up the possibility of “not the same compensation for everyone” claims. However, it not only acknowledges the problem, it gives a clear and concise reasoning why no changes will be made and offers something to recoup lost merits spent on extra transmissions and boosts lost on failed missions - and does so with as much time as would be reasonable before the end of the Faction phase on on Saturday.

    I don't really think it's a compensatory issue. I hadn't really intended my comment to spur debate or anything, just irked at the silly "it's not broken" response.

    Part of DB doing better is not proclaiming their urinal splashback as the morning dew.
  • Cranky (SC) Cranky (SC) ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was broken.

    It was helpful for Shan to confirm this wasn’t a game mechanics change (thank you if you’re reading!) but slightly disheartening how flippantly the mistake was dismissed. But no surprise given the extensive catalogue of bugs.
  • Paladin 27Paladin 27 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2018


    Can folks make up their mind about how they want faction events to be.

    There are three things that impact performance in a faction event.

    1. How often you send shuttles (including alarms during the night?
    2. How many boosts/tokens you use
    3. How good your crew are compared to others.

    Having no 3 seat shuttles, makes having a deep crew bench important. Which in effect lowers the importance of the first two indicators (the ones everyone has been complaining about being too important for the last month).
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    furyd wrote: »
    Shan wrote: »
    Thank you for the additional info provided regarding missions seats.

    We did intend for this particular event to have a mix of 3, 4 and 5 missions seats. As you have noticed this ended up not being the case.

    This does not mean that the event is broken however, and no change will be made.

    Well, I can appreciate not wanting to make any changes, but claiming it isn't broken is an economy of truth. The first phase was functional, but it wasn't working as intended, which is pretty much what 'broken' means.

    If DB ever decide to expand into the pet shop industry, may I suggest the Norwegian Blue parrot as a suitable stock?

    It gave me an early finish anyway, once I'd got the 5* item it was time to tap out.

    It was a very careful choice of words that really should have read like this:

    We did intend for this particular event to have a mix of 3, 4 and 5 missions seats. As you have noticed this ended up not being the case.

    Trying to fix this on the fly will cause a service outage and carries a risk of introducing new errors. Rather than take the event down for a special server push - thus unfairly depriving some players of the ability to react to the change, based on time zones or other circumstances outside everyone’s control - and with no possible replacement event due to the sequential story set up for the month, we have elected to leave the event unchanged.

    We apologize for any hardship caused and you should all receive ten transmissions for each event faction and three 10x Standard Boost packs via in-game mail before the server reset tonight. Please file a support ticket if you do not receive these items by that time.


    No answer will make things perfect again. Some people in this situation would win the lottery on getting a ton of time boosts while others would be stuck with extra 3* or 4* reward boosts, therefore opening up the possibility of “not the same compensation for everyone” claims. However, it not only acknowledges the problem, it gives a clear and concise reasoning why no changes will be made and offers something to recoup lost merits spent on extra transmissions and boosts lost on failed missions - and does so with as much time as would be reasonable before the end of the Faction phase on on Saturday.

    I didn't receive any of that stuff..........
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  • Bylo BandBylo Band ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh dear, and here I thought I had rolled rather well on my Diplomacy proficency, pity.
  • SMMSMM ✭✭✭
    Returning shutitles frequently omit a crew member that was on it. A 4 seat mission shows 3 crew images for example when it is claimed.
  • Dirk GundersonDirk Gunderson ✭✭✭✭✭
    furyd wrote: »
    Shan wrote: »
    Thank you for the additional info provided regarding missions seats.

    We did intend for this particular event to have a mix of 3, 4 and 5 missions seats. As you have noticed this ended up not being the case.

    This does not mean that the event is broken however, and no change will be made.

    Well, I can appreciate not wanting to make any changes, but claiming it isn't broken is an economy of truth. The first phase was functional, but it wasn't working as intended, which is pretty much what 'broken' means.

    If DB ever decide to expand into the pet shop industry, may I suggest the Norwegian Blue parrot as a suitable stock?

    It gave me an early finish anyway, once I'd got the 5* item it was time to tap out.

    It was a very careful choice of words that really should have read like this:

    We did intend for this particular event to have a mix of 3, 4 and 5 missions seats. As you have noticed this ended up not being the case.

    Trying to fix this on the fly will cause a service outage and carries a risk of introducing new errors. Rather than take the event down for a special server push - thus unfairly depriving some players of the ability to react to the change, based on time zones or other circumstances outside everyone’s control - and with no possible replacement event due to the sequential story set up for the month, we have elected to leave the event unchanged.

    We apologize for any hardship caused and you should all receive ten transmissions for each event faction and three 10x Standard Boost packs via in-game mail before the server reset tonight. Please file a support ticket if you do not receive these items by that time.


    No answer will make things perfect again. Some people in this situation would win the lottery on getting a ton of time boosts while others would be stuck with extra 3* or 4* reward boosts, therefore opening up the possibility of “not the same compensation for everyone” claims. However, it not only acknowledges the problem, it gives a clear and concise reasoning why no changes will be made and offers something to recoup lost merits spent on extra transmissions and boosts lost on failed missions - and does so with as much time as would be reasonable before the end of the Faction phase on on Saturday.

    I didn't receive any of that stuff..........

    If it helps, nobody did. Just a thought I had about how DB could have soothed the sting of having unintentionally lower success rates, particularly for those without deep crew rosters or suffering from a lack of slots. As furyd noted, compensation wasn’t even really important...the prickly and abrupt nature of DB’s response was the problem.
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