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Meaningless Gauntlet and The Great Merit Dump

Starting to think DB has either screwed up the drop percentage of top chests or the increased chance of Armus dropping is just a flat out lie. These are all since Armus was added. First off I don't use Gauntlet calculators or anything some would construe as cheating. Just a bunch of dilithium and merits sunk into a losing cause. Thanks for nothing DB. csfcn71r3r8b.png
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  • I have t gotten Armus yet either. I always end near rank 11
  • Princess TristaPrincess Trista ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2019
    Magenta just finished 1st in her Gauntlet and she won an Armus on the first prize. So it does happen. I haven't won one yet and have finished 1st a few times.
  • Thorozar Thorozar ✭✭✭✭
    Got mine the very first 3 streak then nothing. I have 0 caretakers though.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2019
    I can't remember where I finished when I got my Guinan. I had two Chests,cand they weren't the pretty shiny ones.

    Stupid tablet acting up with WiFi starting at 1830 made me miss last set of fights. Finished like 14th? Had five if boxes below the Gold, I think. Got total of 60 Chronies and junk........



    EDIT: Wasn't 14th. That would have cleared another Achievement. I got the top 25 done, though. I was 14th when I got disconnected. What would have been five second Level Chests?
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • I dont think I've ever gotten a copy of a gauntlet character from the winning chests. Every one came from streak boxes. For reference, I'm a daily gauntlet player, but I dont pay for crew refreshes (just over 16,000 battles since achievements started). So far, from streak boxes, I have collected:
    0/5 Locutus (still bitter)
    7/5 Guinan (yay honor!)
    3/5 Caretaker
    2/5 Armus so far
  • Bylo BandBylo Band ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont think I've ever gotten a copy of a gauntlet character from the winning chests. Every one came from streak boxes. For reference, I'm a daily gauntlet player, but I dont pay for crew refreshes (just over 16,000 battles since achievements started). So far, from streak boxes, I have collected:
    0/5 Locutus (still bitter)
    7/5 Guinan (yay honor!)
    3/5 Caretaker
    2/5 Armus so far

    12 more than myself.
  • Dirk GundersonDirk Gunderson ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of my two Guinans came from an end reward box, though it was for 41st place rather than first. My Locutus and three Caretakers were all from streaks. I figure I had such luck in getting the Caretaker that I will never see Armus, or at least not until his run is nearly over.
  • 5000 Quatloos5000 Quatloos ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2019
    Nobody knows the actual drop chance, but taking I wild guess, I would expect that one of the (higher) gauntlet reward box rates would be comparable to the merit pack legendary drop chance (at most) - i.e., something you can get for free. I recently calculated that it would take 426 merit pulls at that drop rate to have a 90% chance of getting a 5* there. If that logic even remotely holds water as an equivalence, that's an awful lot of gauntlet reward boxes you should expect to have to open before seeing the big slimy guy.
    Accepted. Mark them, Galt.
  • Bylo BandBylo Band ✭✭✭✭✭
    The one thing about The Gauntlet and all these forum threads reporting on Gauntlet characters is that the game seems to segregate folks into two camps: those who never get the Gauntlet character, and those drowning in Gauntlet characters. It makes me wonder, but you rarely see people post that they only have a single Gauntlet crew. Like maybe our DBIDs work like Minecraft seed numbers, and there are just certain DBIDs that have Gauntlet crew biomes closer to spawn.
  • 5000 Quatloos5000 Quatloos ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Byloband - Captain Plim above got 0 Locuti. I only got one Caretaker, in his last days of stardom. I dunno ... when the drop probability is so low, we would need a really huge sample size of data to figure things out, which we'll never have.

    In the OP's defense and in solidarity ... when you start playing gauntlet the interface really doesn't do much to tell you that you're grinding for lottery tickets, not "sure things after enough effort is put in". They really should post the drop rates of the reward boxes, same way they do with crew packs.
    Accepted. Mark them, Galt.
  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2019
    Well its not just since recently that winning a gauntlet mostly ends up getting worthless stuff. ;)

    Using dilithium or merits to win a gauntlet, just because you hope u ll get the Legendary, is a huge waste of ressources imho.

    All my gauntlet legendaries i got from the first 3 or 6 streak win boxes, so the boxes with the lowest drop rate. All my several gauntlet wins and top rankings always got me crap. So i learned my lesson. I spend zero dilithium on gauntlet and only a few merits for refreshes. Thats it.

    Agreed completely. IMO, once you've gotten the achievement for #1, it's pointless to spend any dil for rank (and even spending a lot of merits doesn't make a whole lot of sense, either). Go for as many streaks as you can (not necessarily the longest streaks, but as many shorter ones as possible), and I think that maximizes your chances at least as much as ranking high. I've gotten at least one of every Gauntlet exclusive so far, though I'm still waiting for an Armus to drop (not going to be that sad if I don't get one, though).


    Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
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  • dext74dext74 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ByloBand wrote: »
    The one thing about The Gauntlet and all these forum threads reporting on Gauntlet characters is that the game seems to segregate folks into two camps: those who never get the Gauntlet character, and those drowning in Gauntlet characters. It makes me wonder, but you rarely see people post that they only have a single Gauntlet crew. Like maybe our DBIDs work like Minecraft seed numbers, and there are just certain DBIDs that have Gauntlet crew biomes closer to spawn.

    1 Locutus
    0 Guinan
    1 Caretaker
    0 Armus
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    Would be good to get the percentages of an Armus drop. Those top boxes in gauntlets are usually terrible.
    Let’s fly!
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    ByloBand wrote: »
    The one thing about The Gauntlet and all these forum threads reporting on Gauntlet characters is that the game seems to segregate folks into two camps: those who never get the Gauntlet character, and those drowning in Gauntlet characters. It makes me wonder, but you rarely see people post that they only have a single Gauntlet crew. Like maybe our DBIDs work like Minecraft seed numbers, and there are just certain DBIDs that have Gauntlet crew biomes closer to spawn.

    I have a single 65% bartender.
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • AmphistaffAmphistaff ✭✭✭✭✭
    You're playing gauntlet wrong if you are spending dil and don't have a surplus of merits from it. I finish top 5 every time and make at least 1k merits and never spend a crystal. I've gotten one armus from a 3 win streak box and jack from all of the end of gauntlet crates.
  • I dont think I've ever gotten a copy of a gauntlet character from the winning chests. Every one came from streak boxes. For reference, I'm a daily gauntlet player, but I dont pay for crew refreshes (just over 16,000 battles since achievements started). So far, from streak boxes, I have collected:
    0/5 Locutus (still bitter)
    7/5 Guinan (yay honor!)
    3/5 Caretaker
    2/5 Armus so far

    I've just got 2 caretakers after 13,000 rounds. One was a streak of 3 bonus, the other a rank 1 reward.
    Most anticipated character not in the game: Mr. Homn
  • edited January 2019
    I got 2 Armus’s (Armi?) on the same day........ a 3 win streak and a 9 win streak......
    Sorry to flex on y’all
    “What's a knockout like you doing in a computer-generated gin joint like this?”

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    Played since January 2017

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  • RegolasRegolas ✭✭✭
    ByloBand wrote: »
    The one thing about The Gauntlet and all these forum threads reporting on Gauntlet characters is that the game seems to segregate folks into two camps: those who never get the Gauntlet character, and those drowning in Gauntlet characters. It makes me wonder, but you rarely see people post that they only have a single Gauntlet crew. Like maybe our DBIDs work like Minecraft seed numbers, and there are just certain DBIDs that have Gauntlet crew biomes closer to spawn.

    I have one Guinan that I received from an end box. None of the others.
  • IvanstoneIvanstone ✭✭✭✭✭
    I got one Armus from a 2nd place Gauntlet finish. RNG happened.

    The Gauntlet's good for farming Merits. Bought a Merit Pack a couple weeks ago. Got a Lt Wesley Crusher from it. I recommend the Gauntlet for obtaining 5*'s.
    VIP 13 - 310 Crew Slots - 1055 Immortals
  • I didn't play during Locutus. I did about 2,500 rounds during Guinan and got 3 of her. I did about 6,000 rounds during Caretaker and only got 1 of him. So far, I'm still at 0 Armus. I play regularly and tyipcally finish between 9th and 35th depending on how much time I have.
  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is called "Another Day in the Gauntlet".

    NEVER. Ever. Spend dil in the gauntlet. And don't let it sink merits. Chest odds are so infinitesimal as to be meaningless differences between crates and vaults. Open more chests, regardless of "rarity" and you're more likely to get something.
    You're better opening up 15 boxes from 3-9 streaks than 7 boxes from a first place finish.
    And better off opening 7 11-15th places boxes than 5 2nd place boxes.

    In this instance, the quality is so low that quantity trumps it every time.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ivanstone wrote: »
    I got one Armus from a 2nd place Gauntlet finish. RNG happened.

    The Gauntlet's good for farming Merits. Bought a Merit Pack a couple weeks ago. Got a Lt Wesley Crusher from it. I recommend the Gauntlet for obtaining 5*'s.

    I got a Rejak
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • One Guinan, two Caretaker, no Armus (didn't play during the Locutus time).
    Got at least one Caretaker from a 3-win streak, and one for a low finish (about rank 40-something).

    I have fleetmates who never got any Gauntlet character, despite playing every day.
  • No Locutus, no Guinan, FOUR Caretakers (did add the citation to finish him), no Armus so far. Really does seem like feast or famine in this game.
  • [7TW] UnkieB[7TW] UnkieB ✭✭✭✭✭
    1/5 Locutus
    2/5 Guinan
    1/5 Caretaker
    0/5 Armus
  • Amphistaff wrote: »
    You're playing gauntlet wrong if you are spending dil and don't have a surplus of merits from it. I finish top 5 every time and make at least 1k merits and never spend a crystal. I've gotten one armus from a 3 win streak box and jack from all of the end of gauntlet crates.

    That's exactly what happened with me, too. I had ranked top 25 a few days previously.
    Account on it's final tour, soon to be retired!
  • RaraRacingRaraRacing ✭✭✭✭✭
    1/5 Locutus (still eons away from the achievement copy)
    2/5 Guinan (cited up to 4/5)
    1/5 Caretaker (in the last week he was available)
    0/5 Armus
  • Zero Locutus (even though I WAS playing back then)...

    Six Guinans - all dropped from 3-6 streaks.
    Zero Caretakers.

    Four Armuses! First 3 from 3-6 streaks, last one from a 5th position win, off the last lootbox.

    Keep playing. If RNGesus smiles on you, you'll get what you want. But remember, it's random! No guarantees.

    <Only used IAP for one day before it went, so that has NO influence on anythung!>
  • Emperor Borg Drone (SC)Emperor Borg Drone (SC) ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2019
    ByloBand wrote: »
    The one thing about The Gauntlet and all these forum threads reporting on Gauntlet characters is that the game seems to segregate folks into two camps: those who never get the Gauntlet character, and those drowning in Gauntlet characters. It makes me wonder, but you rarely see people post that they only have a single Gauntlet crew. Like maybe our DBIDs work like Minecraft seed numbers, and there are just certain DBIDs that have Gauntlet crew biomes closer to spawn.

    I have 1 Guinan, 0 Locutus and 0 Caretakers. I really tried to get the Caretaker by playing consistently every day, going for longest possible streaks and for the best possible rank (a bit useless when you live in Europe and it ends while you're asleep).
    I still believe the Gauntlet is probably the worst designed feature of this game. If they want to keep it like a sort of reverse Dabo Wheel where 70% of the players get the jackpot and 30% get the useless 0* item on the bottom right, then they should at least change the 5* more often. (And maybe not put the only decent voyage character with an ENG-MED combination as a reward? At least Armus is finally a perfectly useless character for everything except the Gauntlet itself.)

    The way the Gauntlet works now, it's as if you would put all of your effort into a faction event, use 80 time boosts, log in every 90 minutes over 4 days, unfreeze and level tons of bonus crew, knowing that you may rank 100000, while someone else who logged in a couple of times on the first day will get into 1k.
    It's really not worth it to invest anything into it, except for the time needed for merit farming.
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