This will be 3 in a row for me as I didn't use a citation on Etana, Kol, and now Thrax. I was more than fine on CMD+SEC when Kol came around (and now Thrax as well) and I just hated the character of Etana too much to cite.... still waiting for a great mega character over here DB!
For Voyages he falls in between Kol and Kortar ... but with the double 1000 base stats he's got that going for him, and he at least has 3 skills ... he'll be my #3 base SEC and #4 base CMD (my T'Kuvma is only 4/5)
I'll cite and I guess I'm covered for SEC/CMD shuttles for the time being (considering we all recently got a 1/5 Durango Troi for free too ... SEC-base overload).
I've been rethinking my initial approach a bit ... don't think I'll cite:
Long-winded Explanation
- The way the mega event is structured Thrax's use is mainly in week 2 ... for week 3, and especially 4, he will have limited use, where one extra star won't make a world of difference.
- I'm going to go hard week 4 because hopefully the 5* rank reward there will be for a re-run the week after ... don't need Thrax for a skirmish event.
- I'm not really excited about this mega event ... there wasn't a cool initial announcement giving a peek at some of the crew to be involved in the coming weeks etc. ... to me it just feels like another standard event weekend ... so I'm kinda like ... meh.
- We did just get a "free" SEC beast in Durango Troi, who I have 2/5 due to a lucky pull around the same time.
- I have 7 CMD 5* with a base over 1000 (after bonuses) and 4 SEC 5* with a base over 1000 (after bonuses) ... Thrax will be good enough at 4/5.
- I have 2/5s that could use stars to address more pressing needs for my crew ... e.g. Prince Bashir, Away Team Saru, AoS Crusher, Mirror Data (i.e. MED and SCI base/voyages) ... or generally decent crew at 1/5 (e.g. Braxton, Mirror Stamets, Dr. Pulaski, Da Vinci etc.).
--> I'll make a final decision after the portal pulls obtained from the event.
Viable, yes. I wouldn’t say “good,” however, thanks to his putrescent secondary skills. Spot usage for Cardassian gauntlets is a definite possibility but otherwise he’s down in the Mirror Kira/Valeris/Kung Fu Sarek tier. Crew like Mirror Shukar, Musketeer La Forge, and Ushaan Archer have a definite advantage over him and he’ll be eaten alive in COM/SEC and DIP/SEC battles by everyone from Mirror Picard to Abe Lincoln.
Thrax does have the investigator trait with a sec base. They should help with one of the hardest nodes to clear.
Also, his stats were incorrectly reported by DB. (in a good way for a change )
SEC prof was off by 300
So, does this make him a top-tier Voyager?
Pretty good, not elite. He has roughly the same voyage score as AoS Riker and Captain Lorian. He's still below Kol among the mega SEC/COM/DIP crowd, especially with his practically non-existent DIP tertiary. He is above Kortar for total though.
Thrax does have the investigator trait with a sec base. They should help with one of the hardest nodes to clear.
Also, his stats were incorrectly reported by DB. (in a good way for a change )
SEC prof was off by 300
So, does this make him a top-tier Voyager?
If my math is right, that takes his voyage total without bonuses from 3158 to 3308, only 58 points better than Kortar. He remains largely what he was: great for people without good SEC base/voyage crew, okay for the rest of us.
Thrax does have the investigator trait with a sec base. They should help with one of the hardest nodes to clear.
Also, his stats were incorrectly reported by DB. (in a good way for a change )
SEC prof was off by 300
So, does this make him a top-tier Voyager?
If my math is right, that takes his voyage total without bonuses from 3158 to 3308, only 58 points better than Kortar. He remains largely what he was: great for people without good SEC base/voyage crew, okay for the rest of us.
Can you tell me how you came to the numbers?
STT wiki voyage numbers don't match what's on the Latest Crew lvl 100 stats spreadsheet.
Thrax does have the investigator trait with a sec base. They should help with one of the hardest nodes to clear.
Also, his stats were incorrectly reported by DB. (in a good way for a change )
SEC prof was off by 300
So, does this make him a top-tier Voyager?
"but for voyages it vaults him up nearly 90 ranks and over twenty-nine crew that share his skill set. For better or worse, he’s now an even closer facsimile of the last mega Kol of House Kor."
Thrax does have the investigator trait with a sec base. They should help with one of the hardest nodes to clear.
Also, his stats were incorrectly reported by DB. (in a good way for a change )
SEC prof was off by 300
So, does this make him a top-tier Voyager?
If my math is right, that takes his voyage total without bonuses from 3158 to 3308, only 58 points better than Kortar. He remains largely what he was: great for people without good SEC base/voyage crew, okay for the rest of us.
Can you tell me how you came to the numbers?
STT wiki voyage numbers don't match what's on the Latest Crew lvl 100 stats spreadsheet.
THanks
Voyage numbers are Base + Average Proficiency (do this for each stat then add them together). Remember that the level 100 spreadsheet stats by default include all possible bonuses.
Thrax does have the investigator trait with a sec base. They should help with one of the hardest nodes to clear.
Also, his stats were incorrectly reported by DB. (in a good way for a change )
SEC prof was off by 300
So, does this make him a top-tier Voyager?
If my math is right, that takes his voyage total without bonuses from 3158 to 3308, only 58 points better than Kortar. He remains largely what he was: great for people without good SEC base/voyage crew, okay for the rest of us.
Can you tell me how you came to the numbers?
STT wiki voyage numbers don't match what's on the Latest Crew lvl 100 stats spreadsheet.
THanks
Voyage numbers are Base + Average Proficiency (do this for each stat then add them together). Remember that the level 100 spreadsheet stats by default include all possible bonuses.
AHHH that's it the bonuses. I wish they weren't included but that's ok. THANK YOU
Well, now that we get characters so frequently, there will undoubtedly be “statistical” copies out there.
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Well, now that we get characters so frequently, there will undoubtedly be “statistical” copies out there.
Undoubtedly. But back to back mega events seems a little unimaginative. It’s the little things that create a different perspective for the long term gamers
My vip0 will soon have two almost identical immortal legendaries. Actually, if Seven in Silver (gift) and Locutus (gauntlet) wouldn't be on board all legendaries I have there would be SEC/CMD/DIP. I think I might have that skill set covered there
Well, now that we get characters so frequently, there will undoubtedly be “statistical” copies out there.
Undoubtedly. But back to back mega events seems a little unimaginative. It’s the little things that create a different perspective for the long term gamers
And to have that happen twice (Cornwell and Bashir)...it was easy enough to believe that Kol and Kortar could have virtually the same skills when considering new players and game balance issues, it was even easy enough to accept it for Cornwell/Bashir because the player base was aching for more strong MED crew at the time; it is harder to believe that for Thrax when almost nobody is clamoring for more C/S/D crew a month after we got a good one.
I maintain that SEC/SCI/COM would have both made sense for the character (SEC and COM for obvious reasons, SCI for the forensic sciences required for good police work) and made the player base much happier. While those skills are available in legendary crew like Armus and Gary Seven, those two are still relatively rare - particularly when compared to the bountiful selection of SEC/COM crew in the game.
Well, now that we get characters so frequently, there will undoubtedly be “statistical” copies out there.
Undoubtedly. But back to back mega events seems a little unimaginative. It’s the little things that create a different perspective for the long term gamers
And to have that happen twice (Cornwell and Bashir)...it was easy enough to believe that Kol and Kortar could have virtually the same skills when considering new players and game balance issues, it was even easy enough to accept it for Cornwell/Bashir because the player base was aching for more strong MED crew at the time; it is harder to believe that for Thrax when almost nobody is clamoring for more C/S/D crew a month after we got a good one.
I maintain that SEC/SCI/COM would have both made sense for the character (SEC and COM for obvious reasons, SCI for the forensic sciences required for good police work) and made the player base much happier. While those skills are available in legendary crew like Armus and Gary Seven, those two are still relatively rare - particularly when compared to the bountiful selection of SEC/COM crew in the game.
Plus, I really don't see how the character as portrayed possesses any diplomatic skill whatsoever.
Well, now that we get characters so frequently, there will undoubtedly be “statistical” copies out there.
Undoubtedly. But back to back mega events seems a little unimaginative. It’s the little things that create a different perspective for the long term gamers
And to have that happen twice (Cornwell and Bashir)...it was easy enough to believe that Kol and Kortar could have virtually the same skills when considering new players and game balance issues, it was even easy enough to accept it for Cornwell/Bashir because the player base was aching for more strong MED crew at the time; it is harder to believe that for Thrax when almost nobody is clamoring for more C/S/D crew a month after we got a good one.
I maintain that SEC/SCI/COM would have both made sense for the character (SEC and COM for obvious reasons, SCI for the forensic sciences required for good police work) and made the player base much happier. While those skills are available in legendary crew like Armus and Gary Seven, those two are still relatively rare - particularly when compared to the bountiful selection of SEC/COM crew in the game.
Plus, I really don't see how the character as portrayed possesses any diplomatic skill whatsoever.
It’s tough to really say one way or the other, since “Thrax” from the episode was really Odo’s repressed memory...how much of that was really Thrax’s personality and how much was Odo’s personality mixed with a decade of repressed shame and guilt. My guess is that a Cardassian security chief during the Occupation probably wasn’t too bothered with being diplomatic to anyone but his bosses.
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I've been rethinking my initial approach a bit ... don't think I'll cite:
Long-winded Explanation
- The way the mega event is structured Thrax's use is mainly in week 2 ... for week 3, and especially 4, he will have limited use, where one extra star won't make a world of difference.
- I'm going to go hard week 4 because hopefully the 5* rank reward there will be for a re-run the week after ... don't need Thrax for a skirmish event.
- I'm not really excited about this mega event ... there wasn't a cool initial announcement giving a peek at some of the crew to be involved in the coming weeks etc. ... to me it just feels like another standard event weekend ... so I'm kinda like ... meh.
- We did just get a "free" SEC beast in Durango Troi, who I have 2/5 due to a lucky pull around the same time.
- I have 7 CMD 5* with a base over 1000 (after bonuses) and 4 SEC 5* with a base over 1000 (after bonuses) ... Thrax will be good enough at 4/5.
- I have 2/5s that could use stars to address more pressing needs for my crew ... e.g. Prince Bashir, Away Team Saru, AoS Crusher, Mirror Data (i.e. MED and SCI base/voyages) ... or generally decent crew at 1/5 (e.g. Braxton, Mirror Stamets, Dr. Pulaski, Da Vinci etc.).
--> I'll make a final decision after the portal pulls obtained from the event.
Also, his stats were incorrectly reported by DB. (in a good way for a change
SEC prof was off by 300
Nice... not a massive difference overall, but still decent
Viable, yes. I wouldn’t say “good,” however, thanks to his putrescent secondary skills. Spot usage for Cardassian gauntlets is a definite possibility but otherwise he’s down in the Mirror Kira/Valeris/Kung Fu Sarek tier. Crew like Mirror Shukar, Musketeer La Forge, and Ushaan Archer have a definite advantage over him and he’ll be eaten alive in COM/SEC and DIP/SEC battles by everyone from Mirror Picard to Abe Lincoln.
So, does this make him a top-tier Voyager?
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Pretty good, not elite. He has roughly the same voyage score as AoS Riker and Captain Lorian. He's still below Kol among the mega SEC/COM/DIP crowd, especially with his practically non-existent DIP tertiary. He is above Kortar for total though.
If my math is right, that takes his voyage total without bonuses from 3158 to 3308, only 58 points better than Kortar. He remains largely what he was: great for people without good SEC base/voyage crew, okay for the rest of us.
Can you tell me how you came to the numbers?
STT wiki voyage numbers don't match what's on the Latest Crew lvl 100 stats spreadsheet.
THanks
"but for voyages it vaults him up nearly 90 ranks and over twenty-nine crew that share his skill set. For better or worse, he’s now an even closer facsimile of the last mega Kol of House Kor."
Voyage numbers are Base + Average Proficiency (do this for each stat then add them together). Remember that the level 100 spreadsheet stats by default include all possible bonuses.
Plus I'm pretty sure when they wrote this story, they were combining aspects of him with Tekeny Ghemor. Would have preferred him, with DIP primary.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Tekeny_Ghemor
AHHH that's it the bonuses. I wish they weren't included but that's ok. THANK YOU
Thrax is now 66 in total voyage numbers.
Yep, very true. Still a free 4/5 so that is good.
Undoubtedly. But back to back mega events seems a little unimaginative. It’s the little things that create a different perspective for the long term gamers
And to have that happen twice (Cornwell and Bashir)...it was easy enough to believe that Kol and Kortar could have virtually the same skills when considering new players and game balance issues, it was even easy enough to accept it for Cornwell/Bashir because the player base was aching for more strong MED crew at the time; it is harder to believe that for Thrax when almost nobody is clamoring for more C/S/D crew a month after we got a good one.
I maintain that SEC/SCI/COM would have both made sense for the character (SEC and COM for obvious reasons, SCI for the forensic sciences required for good police work) and made the player base much happier. While those skills are available in legendary crew like Armus and Gary Seven, those two are still relatively rare - particularly when compared to the bountiful selection of SEC/COM crew in the game.
Plus, I really don't see how the character as portrayed possesses any diplomatic skill whatsoever.
It’s tough to really say one way or the other, since “Thrax” from the episode was really Odo’s repressed memory...how much of that was really Thrax’s personality and how much was Odo’s personality mixed with a decade of repressed shame and guilt. My guess is that a Cardassian security chief during the Occupation probably wasn’t too bothered with being diplomatic to anyone but his bosses.
I noticed that, too. If it ends that way, they need to add traits to him and maybe make him an Odo variant, which would make him even more useful.
I was thinking the same thing.