Should this deal be fixed?
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The VIP looks like it should be 1,250. And it's 40% more than the $20 standard purchase. So you have to spend 25% more to get 40% more dilithium. I think if they fixed some numbers, this might sell a bit more.
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For example I fail to see a 400% value here, just an offer that exceeeds even A+ rated games with all bells and whistles for a slim chance to get some legendaries*:
*1,27% chance
Fear not. Someone will be along to illustrate the exact math very soon. I got this today too. For $100. Bought it as I need the honor
I’ll be that guy:
-25 packs normally valued at 650 dil = 16,250 dil in 10x premium packs
-4,000 additional dil straight up
-20,250 total dil; at the best rate of 8,200 dil per $100, that would normally cost about $246 by itself (real cost would be $250 for two 8200-dil piles and one 4000-dil pile)
-5,000 chrons at $10 each (as per the special deals available during Galaxy and Skirmish events) is another $50
-total cash cost to get these items is $300
If they charge $100 US for it, this math only works out to a 300% value. Even if you use the worst rate of exchange for dil ($5/330) that’s about a 350% value boost. Less if this is a $125 deal and not $100 (105 euros currently works out to $117 US).
If you use the dil price for chronitons (50 chrons per 150 dil), you’d need to drop 15,000 dil (another $200) to get the 5,000 chrons; at 35,250 total dil, you would spend $400 on 8200-piles and need 2,450 dil already on hand to equal a 400% value. Or you’d have to spend another $40-50 dollars on smaller dil piles and the savings would then work out to up to 450%.
It all depends on what valuation DB chooses for dil and for chronitons. Without exact figures, it all looks like Enron Math to us.
5000 chrons (going by the $10 deal during Galaxy events) is $40
25 10x pulls is 16,250 dip which is $200
So technically you get very close to $290 worth of stuff for $100.
I’m not the best mathematician but that looks like a nearly 300% value
You can't count the chrons as "going by the $10 deal during Galaxy events". That's like saying 25 10x pulls going by the $10 for 10 deal is $25. Dirk Gunderson has the math above.
I did not know that...it’s been years since the one or two times I ever got that desperate for chrons. I’ll leave it at “Enron Math.”
Edit: for what it’s worth, the math doesn’t even work out on a deal without chrons:
30 packs @ 650 dil plus 1500 dil equals 21,000 dil total. Compared to the value of the $100 dil pile, that’s over 500% increased value, not 400%, and only goes up from there with other dil exchange rates.
If we set the pack cost at its usual 650 dil, there would need to be a 20,000 dil pile for $200 entry in the time portal as the baseline for the value increase to be 400%.
If we set the dil/$ exchange rate at 82 (from the Best Value pile), DB would need to value packs at about 500 dil instead of 650 for the value increase to be about 400%.
Or someone biffed the value increase number on the deal listings.
It’s been a long time for me too. I know credits are 10 the first time, 20 the next few times, 40 after that and so on. Don’t remember the chron escalation though
As for percentages, it's easy to fudge them to say almost anything by adding or subtracting at the right point. It just depends how you do the "maths".
Yout right. This should be the $19.99
It's amazing how the $9.99 ship pack that includes 1000 dil. is the better offer.
I can second this. I've been pretty outspoken about my desire to receive/purchase the five 4* citation offer that was floating around several months ago, going so far as to directly ask for it multiple times on twitter. I finally got a reply as I was getting quite obnoxious about it, but the reply essentially amounted to "we're not going to talk about this." Message received, I've left it alone since (although seriously, people will buy that!)
My offer today is:
Honestly, I'd consider it but I'm once again up against the crew slots wall, so I really cannot justify it.
Euro prices include taxes, US prices don't. At least that's my guess..
That's it. And when European players see price differences between Apple/Android/Facebook/Steam that's because some charge VAT and others don't.
In the USA they give you a price, you agree to that price and then they add tax afterwards?
So you don't see the real price until you actually come to pay?
That's nuts....
As compared to the US, EU taxes are higher. The US uses state and local "sales taxes" and the EU uses "value added taxes" (VAT) for consumer purchases. In the US, sales tax isn't included in the price. There is no national sales tax, and tax is usually only added if you live in the same state as the company selling the goods.
Yes. And I have a defunct email address linked to my STT account so I don’t even see what the final cost is cuz I don’t get the emailed receipt
Unless you are paying 10 krona, they are using an exchange rate. 10:1 is just as much a rate as 9.237:1.
DB doesn't determine the non-dollar prices. The platforms determine the exchange rate and only change them every so often when they have shifted enough to need a re-adjustment.
It would be trivial for iOS/Android to provide the API and then for STT to use it to display it in the game. But it would be different from how US customers shop everywhere else. When you go to a store and pick up a product it doesn't display the tax, you just know to expect to pay an extra x% on top of it and do the mental math. When you go to Amazon to buy something the initial product page doesn't display the tax. It's only when you go to checkout that you see the final cost after tax. The same is true for STT. When you click the deal you only see the base price, but when you enter the Apple/Android window for checkout you see the additional sales tax added.
Although it should be noted, in a lot of states there are still no sales taxes charged for digital purchases when the company is out of state. I just checked my order history and none of my purchases include sales tax.
Let me just say, Illinois is the worst.
Signed,
Man from Wisconsin
It’s god awful. It’s run by idiots, extremely political, and the state is broke.