New Mirror Voyager chars coming soon?
[SJ] Admiral Aki
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in The Bridge
I know we have a Mirror Janeway already, but maybe we’ll get the rest of the crew too:
https://intl.startrek.com/news/star-trek-san-diego-comic-con-IDW-voyager-first-look?amp&__twitter_impression=true
https://intl.startrek.com/news/star-trek-san-diego-comic-con-IDW-voyager-first-look?amp&__twitter_impression=true
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I doubt it. Look at the big gun Kim is carrying. What is he compensating for?
This is hilarious! But I don't think Kim could get promoted in any universe.
Haha, Voyager could have literally taken 70 years to get home and Harry would have still been an ensign and taking orders from Naomi Wildman's grandkids.
He’s compensating for his lack of rank
Surprising, he was a lieutenant in Living Witness
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A typical interaction after the debriefing when arriving home, regardless of universe.
Voyager was built for speed, maneuverability, extra sensors, and the ability to land on a planet. All of these traits would be useful in a science vessel and a warship. Remember also that Prime Voyager was sent out on a mission to hunt down the Maquis. It was not sent on a mission of peace but one of war.
Compare Voyager to the Defiant, or Prometheus, or even the Akira. Being armed doesn't make you a warship, being a warship makes you a warship.
Voyager is a science and exploration ship which happens to have decent weapons compared to the species it encounters, and a never ending supply of photon torpedoes! But that wasn't its purpose.
Granted, OF COURSE the Terran Empire would want science ships, but they're still a race of conquerors. When's the last time you saw a Klingon science vessel that wasn't primarily a warship?
EDIT: Let's go more broad - my point is that it's just "one step too far-fetched" for me to believe after hundreds of years of starship design, that both universes would continue to have literally the EXACT same ship designs. And YES, before you all correct me, I realize the Terran version of the NX-01 had better tech than the United Earth ship, and yes, I realize this is all just so production can use the same models, but come on! I call shenanigans!
No, that's silly, it wasn't a "WAR" mission. A war mission is when the Terran Empress sends you to Qo'nos and has you bombard the entire planet from orbit until there's nothing left. A war mission is when Captain Killy slaughters half of Betazed. Hell, a war mission is when Captain Sisko takes the cloaked Defiant behind enemy lines to attack Dominion targets.
Voyager went on a search and recovery mission to the Badlands. They had guns in case they needed them, but they were never going to shoot first.
But yes, the ship names are an excellent point as well. Contrast it to Star Wars, where all of the ISDs are named things like "Punisher, Executor, Agonizer." Of course Star Wars is often TOO simplistic, but I'll save that battle for another time. Love ya.
I seem to remember an explanation somewhere that the smaller the differences between two timelines, the closer they are in temporal proximity. Therefore, a ship and crew are more likely to encounter their counterparts (or displace them) because the fact that both exist in their respective timelines means that they are closer in temporal proximity.
All that said... @(HGH)Apollo has a pretty good point: why would an imperial civilization name ships Enterprise, Voyager, and Discovery? (And that's if we chalk ship design up to temporal proximity.)
Extrapolating further... it also means that the universe that we see each time our prime heroes step across is not the same one we see in subsequent cross-overs. In other words, SIsko's mirror universe is not simply a linearly-aged version of the universe Kirk entered. Rather, it is a new universe that just happens to share most of the features of the one Kirk visited. Perhaps that similarity is what makes it accessible, rather than crossing into a universe where (for example) the Borg won and assimilated everything in sight. That universe would be so different from the prime universe that it might be scientifically inaccessible (and narratively impractical for the writers).
Anyhow, that's how I reconcile these things in my head. Don't know if it makes sense to anyone else.
I figure it's pretty easy to write away. Even if this takes place in the exact same universe (which is debatable, based on the TNG MU comics), there's no reason that both Voyagers were called to the Delta Quadrant at the exact same time.
Enterprise is a ship name that goes back a loooong way...perhaps in the Mirror Universe, the sailing vessels named Enterprise were particularly notable for defeating enemies and/or enslaving people? It stands to reason the same could be true for Voyager and Discovery - throwbacks to a time when not all vessels were named Avenger, Charon, and other things more appropriate for that universe.
Mirror Janeway probably killed the Caretaker, stole his technology and with it the ability to displace themselves around the galaxy at will, and took some Kazon and Ocampa hostages whilst they were there. They were probably back in the Alpha quadrant within 12 hours of disappearing from it.
Mirror Tuvok also became the proud owner of a Talaxian skinned rug for his quarters.
Why? What is so great about canon? Have you never read any of the trek books or comics? Why limit yourself to a limited number of shows and episodes?
(I just added the image from the link that Admiral Aki shared, in case someone wants to see it in the discussion without opening the article )
So, YOUR definition of "canon" or bust.
But where is Janeway's eyepatch?