I got paper. (Actually it was books Diplomatic Protocol)
I am sure someone else got scissors
Rock, paper, scissors, lizard, Spock! 😁
What does the paper do to Spock?
Strange that the infographic didn't mention it.
As Sheldon explains, "Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors."
Im reserving opinion for a bit. I usually spin 1 time only. On a rare occasion of being an over 3 year player i have spun continually just to see what happens. I never have hit top row until all 1st and 2nd row was claimed. Thats why 1 spin only rule. Usually schems for rep fuel.
Today for the first time ever on my 1st spin i got lefler 3*. Dont need her but 1st time ever to get crew from dabo on 1st spin. In the end, honor may be more useful than rep fuel.
At the very least this first dabo set does not have crew specific nonsense that clogs inventory cap. That is what we asked for. Common items everyone can use or recycle to honor or rep fuel.
Edit: day 2 new dabo. I can see the ship schems avail are not worthy, and transmissions should not be in dabo. Even a 1500 credit spin not worth trans. Other than that, im fine with honor as i pulled another 3* on 1 spin again.
Ditto. Day 3, opinion no longer reserved. back to original useless clothing patterns for immortal or not owned crew. Yeah!, more stuff to search and clear from inventory. honor was better.
So according to DB Andrea this 2 day change was unintentional. Apparently not QOL improvement. Just another uh-oh accident. Not sure what we did. According to her “less likely” to see things you dont need. Not true. Usually nothing in there is needed except top 5* prize. I do 1 credit spin a day on the off chance i may see the 5* drop since it has been reported to have happened. Everything else is fully lvl ships, FF 4* crew or items for those FL or not owned crew. Ugh.
Sorry, can you confirm, is the Dabo or any other rewards weighted towards getting more useful items? I am close to my 1000 item limit and the unusable items from Campaign crate (sometimes 4 unusable items in one day) and Daboo bump up my inventory each moabout tnth so I need to contact customer services to request that items from daboo and campaigns get removed.
I asked customer service why I kept getting so many of these items and if the game could just automatically delete anything I could not use. I was told that Please note that just like the Gauntlet rewards, Time Portal pulls, etc, Campaign Crates are also random and does not take consideration of what you already have.
I queried them about this as I had thought there was more chance of getting items you needed and I kept crew with equipment needs on my favourite list to try and stop filling my inventory so fast. They confirmed there was no extra chance for needed equipment.
Please which is correct? Are any rewards tailored towards current crew equipment needs? Does it help to leave crew with open equipment slots if we want to avoid our inventory filling up with unusable unique items?
"random and does not take consideration of what you already have" and "current crew equipment needs" are not mutually exclusive.
Gauntlet, Dabo, and Campaigns all look at what items your crew currently have open/unequipped. If you have an item but haven't equipped it on a crew yet you can get another copy.
If you leave enough items open, they will show up in gauntlet, dabo, and campaigns. The problem is if you don't leave enough items open then the algorithm fills the rest with random items.
This is a question that comes up frequently, I'm saying that to share that we have a lot of experience that contradicts what support told you.
Early on in the game, these dabo and campaign rewards can be very helpful when you are having a harder time levelling crew from 1-50, never mind 50-100. At this stage you're more likely to be working on a number of unfinished crew, and let's say you might have 20 crew under construction because you don't have the missions/resources to finish them to 100 yet. In this scenario, you are STILL not guaranteed to have every dabo slot or campaign reward be relevant to your crew under construction, but it is much more likely.
You can imagine if you've only got 1-2 under construction later in the game, the odds are much worse of relevant equipment. Especially if your crew are all level 70+, then you need a successful "roll" both for high level equipment, AND relevance to your crew for something to drop. I've found that leaving crew at lvl 100 with a few pieces of equipment waiting has almost a 0% drop rate, while if they're somewhere in the 70-90 range and I leave a chron expensive equipment unfinished it's got a better drop chance.
Finally, you don't have to ask support to delete unwanted items for you. You can use them as replicator fuel. select an item to replicate, choose a few items from your inventory that you only have a quantity of 1 (and appear to be unique crew equipment), tap the first replicate button. you still have to confirm to complete the replication, and at this confirmation screen you can tap each component to see its name to check and confirm it's something unique you want to get rid of. You can rapidly get rid of lots of them in one replication this way.
Thanks for the replies. If this comes up often then why can I not ask for clarification when two support staff say something different?
Replicating duplicate items yourself is very time-consuming due to the poor interface. The customer service staff have the tools to this quickly and send you a list of all unique items and items you got from daboo and campaigns. You reply with the items you do not need and they convert them to replicator rations for you.
The issue of items given by campaigns and Daboo is very relevant to me because it is hard to keep unlevelled crew to receive these items. I have all the crew I need already levelled up and enough resources to instantly level any useful crew to 100. I keep crew that I need for collections and when they are 2* I favourite them and level to 60 then use for my dailies and as targets for drops I get from Daboo, Campaigns etc. I try to have 2-3 such crew needing different levels of equipment. My main reason for doing this is to try and absorb all the unique items given in the game. This is only worth it if there is a good chance that the random drops favour crew that I own.
With 2 tiers of the campaign, 2 daboo rolls a day and other bits I seem to be getting about 20 unique items drop a month that I can not use. These are across all levels. I understand how you can replicate them yourself, but searching through a list of 600 pieces of equipment that are not sorted in any useful way to find unique items ... This would be a time challenge even if I could identify them when I see them. Your method requires I select each potential item and try to replicate so I can see if I have a correct item or not ... Sorry I just do not have the time this requires. I am sure it will be addressed at some later game update.
So just a clarification if it is worth the trouble of keeping partially levelled crew to get campaign drops. Otherwise, if it is completely random then the campaign drops and daboo are a liability. The campaign is unavoidable and Daboo I use my free spins because just once I want to win something from the top row.
I understand your point that it's frustrating to get a bunch of useless components that contribute to a maximum 1000 limit inventory, we all share that nuisance.
I would challenge your assertion that it saves you time to contact support and request a list of unique items, then once a list is provided to you edit it as required and send it back, that this process would be faster than what I described.
I'd bet just the action of typing those 2 messages to CS, without reviewing their reply, would be about the amount of time it takes me to sort inventory by Equipment, scroll through items with just 1 quantity and look "unique", then do a quick confirmation of the replicate screen for the 2 or 3 items I might not be certain about (most are pretty obvious visually).
I'm not a big fan of coming up with new ways to consume CS time, when I have issues I can't solve myself that I'd like quick service on occasionally.
Thanks for your understanding. My main issue is an official answer to whether it helps to keep some crew at level 60+ needing equipment to reduce the chance of getting unusable equipment. Customer service said it made no difference. Here, I read customer support saying there is an increased chance of getting needed equipment.
Actually, typing messages is very fast, it is just a sentence or two. Customer services have a tool to do it, it just prints a formated list of 20-30 items, they do not type out each item. I reply usually something like keep the ... and paste a couple of objects. I do not think it takes much of their time, they reply fast and have had it as a solution for over a year. If it was a serious drain on resourses they would have upped the 1000 item limit or improved the replication interface.
I do take your point about the customer service response time, but I seem to get a reply the next day regardless of what issue I put to them. I also think customer service is not just fixing new issues but a survey of the game bugs and issues that most affect the customer. Customer service is almost always excellent with their 24-hour response, just sometimes they do not read the issue details but send a "try restarting" solution.
You may be fast on the equipment list but I am not. There are 6 - 700 small icons to scroll through since they are not sorted. I do not find it easy to identify them against regular equipment, sometimes the icons are the same. The equipment is only sorted by stars and not alphabetically so I scroll the whole list. Then I get the replicate to confirm screen and a single wrong item and I need to start again... I may be just careless with a bad memory and poor eyesight on a too-small phone though.
Truely not meaning to be rude at all, I appreciate your viewpoint.
@Synthetic Commander I actually did have a go replicating items last night. Mostly because I had some low-level shuttle boosts to clear from items. I was wrong about the sorting, I think the equipment was sorted alphabetically within each rarity. I also used https://datacore.netlify.com to get a list of potential items with icons to replicate. It still took me about 30 minutes to find 40 items I could safely replicate.
I wonder if in your method you just assume that any basic or common or rare equipment could safely be replicated even if you may need it for a future crew? The cost of making the lower level equipment again would be quite cheap?
@Synthetic Commander I actually did have a go replicating items last night. Mostly because I had some low-level shuttle boosts to clear from items. I was wrong about the sorting, I think the equipment was sorted alphabetically within each rarity. I also used https://datacore.netlify.com to get a list of potential items with icons to replicate. It still took me about 30 minutes to find 40 items I could safely replicate.
I wonder if in your method you just assume that any basic or common or rare equipment could safely be replicated even if you may need it for a future crew? The cost of making the lower level equipment again would be quite cheap?
Hey Phantum. I certainly don't take any offense to how you phrased your prior message. I was not aware of the CS tool they have available so at least DB is trying to give them tools to manage something they know is a problem. I also agree that I've got nothing but positive experiences with DB CS, and find their response time almost always reasonable (and occasionally surprisingly quick).
I've always worked in an industry that's got a significant amount of CS involved so I'm always thinking about trying to minimize or prioritize my requests, I may be overly sensitive due to my experience.
As for how I select items, I do find basic and rare quality items to be low risk to replicate due to their cost to build. I am at late stage of the game so a lot of unique crew equipment is for crew I'm already finished as well, but I'd rather keep equipment that costs a lot of chrons/faction items (purple/gold) than something I'd immediately build in the first level 1-50.
My priority of criteria as I scroll through equipment to select is:
- start from the bottom of the entire equipment list (basic equipment)
- quantity of 1 (or up to 5 if it's an obvious crew equipment like seven's outfit for example)
- not an visually recognizable item like faction equipment or clothing pattern, etc
- I don't select as many purple/gold components unless it looks familiar for crew I already FE or crew I'd rather not drop (such as president lincoln's top hat).
I can typically drop 50 unique equipment very quickly without being too picky with this method. if i take my time considering more visually suspect items I can tackle more.
Also - if you have more than one item of a kind you can tap the item in the amount selector and get the name.
Item management needs some love though. At least you should be able to see the name of a item when you put it in the replicator and see if some crew needs it.
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I got paper. (Actually it was books Diplomatic Protocol)
I am sure someone else got scissors
Rock, paper, scissors, lizard, Spock! 😁
What does the paper do to Spock?
That combo breaks the universe and you have to play again
Strange that the infographic didn't mention it.
As Sheldon explains, "Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors."
All are possible rewards in DABO😉😊
Ditto. Day 3, opinion no longer reserved. back to original useless clothing patterns for immortal or not owned crew. Yeah!, more stuff to search and clear from inventory. honor was better.
So according to DB Andrea this 2 day change was unintentional. Apparently not QOL improvement. Just another uh-oh accident. Not sure what we did. According to her “less likely” to see things you dont need. Not true. Usually nothing in there is needed except top 5* prize. I do 1 credit spin a day on the off chance i may see the 5* drop since it has been reported to have happened. Everything else is fully lvl ships, FF 4* crew or items for those FL or not owned crew. Ugh.
What did it say?
Sorry, can you confirm, is the Dabo or any other rewards weighted towards getting more useful items? I am close to my 1000 item limit and the unusable items from Campaign crate (sometimes 4 unusable items in one day) and Daboo bump up my inventory each moabout tnth so I need to contact customer services to request that items from daboo and campaigns get removed.
I asked customer service why I kept getting so many of these items and if the game could just automatically delete anything I could not use. I was told that Please note that just like the Gauntlet rewards, Time Portal pulls, etc, Campaign Crates are also random and does not take consideration of what you already have.
I queried them about this as I had thought there was more chance of getting items you needed and I kept crew with equipment needs on my favourite list to try and stop filling my inventory so fast. They confirmed there was no extra chance for needed equipment.
Please which is correct? Are any rewards tailored towards current crew equipment needs? Does it help to leave crew with open equipment slots if we want to avoid our inventory filling up with unusable unique items?
Gauntlet, Dabo, and Campaigns all look at what items your crew currently have open/unequipped. If you have an item but haven't equipped it on a crew yet you can get another copy.
If you leave enough items open, they will show up in gauntlet, dabo, and campaigns. The problem is if you don't leave enough items open then the algorithm fills the rest with random items.
Early on in the game, these dabo and campaign rewards can be very helpful when you are having a harder time levelling crew from 1-50, never mind 50-100. At this stage you're more likely to be working on a number of unfinished crew, and let's say you might have 20 crew under construction because you don't have the missions/resources to finish them to 100 yet. In this scenario, you are STILL not guaranteed to have every dabo slot or campaign reward be relevant to your crew under construction, but it is much more likely.
You can imagine if you've only got 1-2 under construction later in the game, the odds are much worse of relevant equipment. Especially if your crew are all level 70+, then you need a successful "roll" both for high level equipment, AND relevance to your crew for something to drop. I've found that leaving crew at lvl 100 with a few pieces of equipment waiting has almost a 0% drop rate, while if they're somewhere in the 70-90 range and I leave a chron expensive equipment unfinished it's got a better drop chance.
Finally, you don't have to ask support to delete unwanted items for you. You can use them as replicator fuel. select an item to replicate, choose a few items from your inventory that you only have a quantity of 1 (and appear to be unique crew equipment), tap the first replicate button. you still have to confirm to complete the replication, and at this confirmation screen you can tap each component to see its name to check and confirm it's something unique you want to get rid of. You can rapidly get rid of lots of them in one replication this way.
Replicating duplicate items yourself is very time-consuming due to the poor interface. The customer service staff have the tools to this quickly and send you a list of all unique items and items you got from daboo and campaigns. You reply with the items you do not need and they convert them to replicator rations for you.
The issue of items given by campaigns and Daboo is very relevant to me because it is hard to keep unlevelled crew to receive these items. I have all the crew I need already levelled up and enough resources to instantly level any useful crew to 100. I keep crew that I need for collections and when they are 2* I favourite them and level to 60 then use for my dailies and as targets for drops I get from Daboo, Campaigns etc. I try to have 2-3 such crew needing different levels of equipment. My main reason for doing this is to try and absorb all the unique items given in the game. This is only worth it if there is a good chance that the random drops favour crew that I own.
With 2 tiers of the campaign, 2 daboo rolls a day and other bits I seem to be getting about 20 unique items drop a month that I can not use. These are across all levels. I understand how you can replicate them yourself, but searching through a list of 600 pieces of equipment that are not sorted in any useful way to find unique items ... This would be a time challenge even if I could identify them when I see them. Your method requires I select each potential item and try to replicate so I can see if I have a correct item or not ... Sorry I just do not have the time this requires. I am sure it will be addressed at some later game update.
So just a clarification if it is worth the trouble of keeping partially levelled crew to get campaign drops. Otherwise, if it is completely random then the campaign drops and daboo are a liability. The campaign is unavoidable and Daboo I use my free spins because just once I want to win something from the top row.
Best Regards
I would challenge your assertion that it saves you time to contact support and request a list of unique items, then once a list is provided to you edit it as required and send it back, that this process would be faster than what I described.
I'd bet just the action of typing those 2 messages to CS, without reviewing their reply, would be about the amount of time it takes me to sort inventory by Equipment, scroll through items with just 1 quantity and look "unique", then do a quick confirmation of the replicate screen for the 2 or 3 items I might not be certain about (most are pretty obvious visually).
I'm not a big fan of coming up with new ways to consume CS time, when I have issues I can't solve myself that I'd like quick service on occasionally.
Actually, typing messages is very fast, it is just a sentence or two. Customer services have a tool to do it, it just prints a formated list of 20-30 items, they do not type out each item. I reply usually something like keep the ... and paste a couple of objects. I do not think it takes much of their time, they reply fast and have had it as a solution for over a year. If it was a serious drain on resourses they would have upped the 1000 item limit or improved the replication interface.
I do take your point about the customer service response time, but I seem to get a reply the next day regardless of what issue I put to them. I also think customer service is not just fixing new issues but a survey of the game bugs and issues that most affect the customer. Customer service is almost always excellent with their 24-hour response, just sometimes they do not read the issue details but send a "try restarting" solution.
You may be fast on the equipment list but I am not. There are 6 - 700 small icons to scroll through since they are not sorted. I do not find it easy to identify them against regular equipment, sometimes the icons are the same. The equipment is only sorted by stars and not alphabetically so I scroll the whole list. Then I get the replicate to confirm screen and a single wrong item and I need to start again... I may be just careless with a bad memory and poor eyesight on a too-small phone though.
Truely not meaning to be rude at all, I appreciate your viewpoint.
I wonder if in your method you just assume that any basic or common or rare equipment could safely be replicated even if you may need it for a future crew? The cost of making the lower level equipment again would be quite cheap?
Hey Phantum. I certainly don't take any offense to how you phrased your prior message.
I've always worked in an industry that's got a significant amount of CS involved so I'm always thinking about trying to minimize or prioritize my requests, I may be overly sensitive due to my experience.
As for how I select items, I do find basic and rare quality items to be low risk to replicate due to their cost to build. I am at late stage of the game so a lot of unique crew equipment is for crew I'm already finished as well, but I'd rather keep equipment that costs a lot of chrons/faction items (purple/gold) than something I'd immediately build in the first level 1-50.
My priority of criteria as I scroll through equipment to select is:
- start from the bottom of the entire equipment list (basic equipment)
- quantity of 1 (or up to 5 if it's an obvious crew equipment like seven's outfit for example)
- not an visually recognizable item like faction equipment or clothing pattern, etc
- I don't select as many purple/gold components unless it looks familiar for crew I already FE or crew I'd rather not drop (such as president lincoln's top hat).
I can typically drop 50 unique equipment very quickly without being too picky with this method. if i take my time considering more visually suspect items I can tackle more.
Item management needs some love though. At least you should be able to see the name of a item when you put it in the replicator and see if some crew needs it.