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Key information about the event: Against the House - 06/25 - Mega-Event Part 3
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Event Name: Against the House
Event Type: Galaxy Event
Event Crew: Doctor Van Gogh 5* (New), Karyn Archer 4* (New), and Obrist 4* (Existing)
Event Dates: Thursday 06/25 until Monday 06/29 at noon (16.00 UTC)
Ranked Reward 5*: Krenim Guest Chakotay (New) - this crew will be featured event crew in the event starting on 07/02.
Mega-Event recurring featured crew: Suspiria 5* (Existing)
Event Factions:
Federation, Terran Empire
Bonus crew:
• high bonus: event crew, and Suspiria
• small bonus: variants of the Doctor (EMH), and crew with the Warp Theorist or Caregiver trait.
Event Type: Galaxy Event
Event Crew: Doctor Van Gogh 5* (New), Karyn Archer 4* (New), and Obrist 4* (Existing)
Event Dates: Thursday 06/25 until Monday 06/29 at noon (16.00 UTC)
Ranked Reward 5*: Krenim Guest Chakotay (New) - this crew will be featured event crew in the event starting on 07/02.
Mega-Event recurring featured crew: Suspiria 5* (Existing)
Event Factions:
Federation, Terran Empire
Bonus crew:
• high bonus: event crew, and Suspiria
• small bonus: variants of the Doctor (EMH), and crew with the Warp Theorist or Caregiver trait.
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I'm thinking Chakotay will be some combination of CMD/DIP/SCI. Definitely not helpful to my roster. At least the two good legendaries are really good. I might do 130k and out next week, unless I'm wrong about the legendary.
Oooh, we get Karyn next week!
I can understand that combo. Maybe DIP/SCI/SEC, but certainly both DIP and SCI should be present.
I kinda think the list of options we voted on, already had all the same new crew designed and ready to go. Except maybe the Recurring. Since there was such a short interval between the vote and the Mega.
They may have had a few ready to go. But there haven't been enough tribbles to say they were going to use the same crew. But I do think they had a couple made up for each scenario. Tribbles may come out later or be saved for a future mega event.
He may have the least character development of any main cast outside of Enterprise.
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Tuvok was under utilized as well. Voyager spent far too much time on Paris.
we’ll always have paris......
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Haha, true. The writers could not figure out what they wanted Paris’ character to be: comic relief, main character, trouble-maker, hero, prankster. The writers wanted him to be all of these things at the same time and it did not work. He was not as good an actor as Ethan Phillips who was able to play a multi-faceted character well. Neelix also worked better because he was a side character which allowed for more flexibility and comic relief.
Pluto TV was doing a Star Trek United marathon the other night. I saw like the last ten minutes of an episode where Chakotay had been captured by aliens and brainwashed to fight their war for them. If anyone knows what it is called, I would definitely like to see the rest, when I get NetFlix or CBS again.
If the whole thing was as well written as the end, I think it might be a great Chakotay episode......
@DScottHewitt It's called Nemesis if I remember well.
I think that Chakotay's character was very underused, but the same goes for Kim, Kes and to some degree Tuvok. Maybe that happens in most shows that have lots of different protagonists.
Tuvok had no real character development but at least he had some interesting episodes. Kim got all the weird romantic stuff. Kes and Chakotay really weren't explored at all, except for those couple of episodes with Kes that come right before the one where she's just ejected from the show and her character arc is abandonded midway.
There are episodes with Chakotay as a protagonist, but somehow when watching them I never felt like I was getting to know something relevant about the character. Maybe that has to do with his performance too. I think I read somewhere that Beltran was so annoyed by the writing that he intentionally did a poor acting job.
Here you go, good interview with RB...
https://www.startrek.com/article/catching-up-with-robert-beltran-part-1
Chakotay was the most criminally underused main character in all of Trek (all due respect to Hoshi and Travis). So much potential...not to say that I’m upset at the development of Seven or The Doctor, I very much appreciated those stories, just that there was time to spend on everyone else and the writers chose to ignore most of them.
This isn't always a problem, but I do enjoy the more balanced series more.
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That actually makes a lot of sense. Once the almost-romantic-fling with Janeway is over, Seska is gone and Torres is married to Paris, he doesn't seem to have any significant relationships to any of the other characters. Given their situation and his personality, you would expect him to bond with someone, as a friend or a mentor, but until his relationship with Seven starts, he doesn't seem to have any kind of meaningful connection to any of the other characters.
TOS certainly did spend time focusing primarily on the Big Three but I think they did a much better job of giving time to the rest of the bridge crew than Enterprise did...Enterprise tried the same approach with Archer, Trip, and T’Pol as the featured crew but only really gave Phlox and Reed much attention beyond that.
TNG and DS9 did a phenomenal job of giving each member of the ensemble cast some love and attention throughout their runs. Even someone minor like Nog ended up being beautifully developed, and thus set a real high bar that Voyager, Enterprise, and Discovery were unable to meet.
Speaking of Discovery...that’s more lopsided than ever before. Burnham is the center of the universe, Tyler/Saru/Tilly/Pike/Lorca (and sometimes Stamets and Georgiou) revolve around her, and everyone else is an appendage. Hopefully that will change in season 3.
I agree Chakotay was under used but I disagree that he was over shadowed or a yes man. The role of first officer is to support the captain and maintain discipline. Chakotay did this perfectly. He was the main reason the maquis and Federation crew worked together so well. He was very good at supporting Captain Janeway in public like a first officer should while also excellent at getting her to modify her plans in private when necessary as is the duty of first officer. Like when Captain Janeway wanted to go after the Omega particles with just herself and Seven but Chakotay convinced her to use the whole crew with only the command staff having knowledge of the top secret particle. Chakotay’s personality perfectly complemented Janeway’s and he was instrumental in helping her keep going and not being overwhelmed by the stress and guilt of being a lone captain separated from help and having to make tough choices. Chakotay was superb at soft diplomacy but when necessary he could use force like when he stopped Seska and brought the ship back into one timeline in “Shattered.” He was no yes man.
I hold out hope that Season Three will be more of an ensemble show, as was originally planned. However, the trailer is very Micky heavy..........
Kate Mulgrew is also to blame. Much like Shatner, she abused her position to get the writers to give her character more, and to take potentially significant plot points from others. Jeri Ryan has been fairly open these days about how difficult it was to work with Kate. She was extremely jealous of the popularity of Seven. As much as I love watching them, Kate and Bill were stage hogs.
You misrepresent Kate Mulgrew’s position. She did not feel that it was necessary to bring in a new character after they had all been working for three years and she did not like what the producers did with Seven’s character by putting her in the tight uniform. Kate Mulgrew found it demeaning to women and she had purposefully rejected similar ideas the producers had wanted to do to sexualize her character. The producers did also put Jeri Ryan in all the promotional material with her in front of Kate Mulgrew and the other cast even though they had made the show and been working on it for three years. Years in which Mulgrew could not see her children very much. Her children hate Voyager and refuse to watch it because “it took their mother away from them.” Kate Mulgrew had given much of herself to then be pushed aside and not appreciated. To have a new person come in and be the main character. I will not disagree that Kate treated Jeri Ryan abysmally and should have directed her anger at the producers instead of Jeri Ryan but Mulgrew is in no way the same as Shatner.
The trailer gives me Zero hope for season 3. I'll probably be hate-watching, just clinging to the scenes that have someone other than Burnham.
Starting with season 4, Voyager's lead effectively became Seven + The Doctor. That worked, but I can see why it would annoy her.
And her character arc is a good one. She's a lot more interesting in the later seasons than in the first two, when apparently she didn't voice her opinions to the writers yet. People complain about the fact that Janeway almost turns into a "villain" as the show progresses, but that's probably the one thing where Voyager lived up to its premise of showing a bunch of people lost in an unfamiliar and dangerous place, facing difficult decisions and knowing that they might never see their families again. She's the only character who actually shows the consequences of that and has to deal with them. If that was her influence on the writers then I'm happy about it.