Could the Kelvin-verse be coming to STT? [Answer: No]
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The Fleet Command mobile game announced earlier this week that they've acquired the rights to the Prime Universe: https://trekmovie.com/2020/08/24/star-treks-prime-timeline-coming-to-star-trek-fleet-command-mobile-game/
I know this was speculated back when CBS & Viacom announced their merger, but this gives some credence to the possibility of the licenses being merged together (or at least there being a possibility for WRG/TP to negotiate to get both).
I know the Kelvin-verse isn't the most popular version of the Trekverse, but I wouldn't be opposed to having the Chrises (Hemsworth and Pine, of course) and Zoe Saldana sitting on my bridge.
ETA: @WRG Ben confirmed in his interview with TimelinesTalks that there are no plans for to add Kelvin-verse characters to the game.
I know this was speculated back when CBS & Viacom announced their merger, but this gives some credence to the possibility of the licenses being merged together (or at least there being a possibility for WRG/TP to negotiate to get both).
I know the Kelvin-verse isn't the most popular version of the Trekverse, but I wouldn't be opposed to having the Chrises (Hemsworth and Pine, of course) and Zoe Saldana sitting on my bridge.
ETA: @WRG Ben confirmed in his interview with TimelinesTalks that there are no plans for to add Kelvin-verse characters to the game.
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But... If there's Kelvin fans here who want them, then I suppose it's fine. I'll just be a little grumpy.
She is a great actor in anything she is in!!!!!
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Separate is how they should stay
I'm already smiling a bit about possibly getting Numb Tongue Kirk or Combat Training Sulu or Kobayashi Kirk (chomping an apple and shooting his finger like a gun). Nimoy would obviously be very fun as well, and those are just from the first movie.
Now THAT ONE I'd go for
agreed
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That is literally a thing made up by a bunch of YouTube channels to justify their hate of the Kelvin-verse and Kurtzman Trek. Here's a video that breaks it down: https://youtu.be/KoulbtFC2Ic
Even if it were a thing, they are now owned by the same entity so it's a moot point.
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I'm sure this has been addressed many times, but how would it "ruin" the game? I don't want this to be a discussion about whether the Abrams movies were "really" Star Trek (to what some of the early Disco ones devolved) or whether a 10-year-old franchise would really generate money/new players for the game, but your comment seems to be more fundamental/conceptual, that the two should be separate, regardless of whether you loved/hated/were indifferent toward the Kelvin movies.
We already have different actors playing characters at roughly (I don't remember exactly how far ahead Disco is from TOS) the same ages, so having a third Christopher Pike or Spock wouldn't be new.
We already have the Mirror characters, who exist because of a different/alternative history thanks to Cochrane shooting the Vulcans (or whatever happened). Why can't Kelvin be another "Mirror" where the Romulan time traveled? Time travel/changing history also isn't anything new to this franchise/game.
Even if the Mirror/Red Angel time traveling is different or actually happened (on TV shows/movies that we saw) in the prime timeline, we also have Timelines Originals, variants that are completely made up, or at least are just as non-canon as the Kelvin characters would be (if you treat everything else as the canon timeline).
As I understand it, the game is about infinite timelines, with all of those crew, whether various versions or ages (e.g. Cadet Nog and Captain Nog, or Kes and Fury Kes) all being present in the same/current "timeline" of the game we are playing. It seems that bringing in another timeline/universe wouldn't be a problem at all.
But many people seem to have this feeling (again, excluding the "real Star Trek" or "used the name to guarantee an audience" kind of discussions), so I'm trying to understand the conceptual distinction/difficulties.
I was thinking she would be awesome as the Cerritos doctor, if it were live-action!!!!!!
There are only three films in the universe, so the amount of cards available is small compared with the prime universe. Six cards from each film would give 18 cards, less than 2% of the current cards. From that point of view I cannot see why anyone would have a real problem.
Financially it might not make sense to licence the Kelvin universe, if it costs more than a nominal amount, then stay with the prime universe.
My major sticking point with the Kelvin universe is that Tarantino wants to direct a Star Trek film. I don't think his style of writing and directing fits in with Star Trek at all.
Think of the cool storylines and rivalries between the two set of TOS crew. Chris Pine Kirk jealous of William Shatner’s Kirk relationship he got to have with their father with the two Spocks working together to get the Kirks to get along. Then another event where Leonard Nimoy Spock is annoyed with Zachary Quinto Spock for showing too much emotion and Ethan Peck Spock seeing both sides and finding common ground.
Then another event with a race and all the JJ crew are running:
McCoy and Kirk
Khan
Spock
Should? No. It's headache enough having to deal with the faux trek in it already. I don't have any real interest beyond TOS to Enterprise. Plus double license fees and image royalties to feature film actors who are holding back the films by demanding bigger salaries doesn't seem like it would benefit the game.
My sentiments exactly. And boycott related schematics, too.
You should watch the new treks. They are good. And the actors for the movie did not hold back the movie by demanding bigger salaries. Quite the opposite, Paramount demanded that the actors take a huge pay cut even though their salaries had already been agreed upon. The actors keep having hugely successful movies and are highly in demand so they did not see it a worthwhile position to take a big pay cut for a nebulous fourth trek movie that Paramount kept dithering on for years when they are getting many movie offers from other studios. Chris Pine, Chris Hemsworth and the others have said all along they are open to making a fourth trek movie but that it is up to Paramount.
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The Champion was in something I watched last night!!!! "That 70s Show"? I think it was. Eric and Red went to a wrestling match......
We've got Gladiator Seven and Penk. The Champion would be cool. And should fit the "iconic" request some people have.
EDIT: We can't talk about the thing that repeatedly happened to Troi in TNG and the movies. But autocorrupt turning Penk's name into an anatomical term doesn't get the "tsk-tsk".........
EDIT #2: I thought I was in the "1000th" character thread, and Barkley was suggesting the Champion. I still support him coming to the game!!!!!
Except maybe Keenser.
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I like the Kelvin Universe and would be very happy with Khan
Counterpoint:
Also I wouldn't object to having this Kirk:
(Shame, really, I think he did a fantastic job of being recognizable without it feeling imitative.)
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That is a valid and insightful criticism of the films - one of the great strengths of the TOS cast was how well the three of them, Kirk, Spock, and McCoy, worked together. The films were very much more Kirk and Spock alone, with McCoy darting in from time to time. One of the best scenes from the Kelvinverse films is when McCoy sneaks Kirk on board the Enterprise, and it’s a little odd they didn’t make more use of that kind of chemistry.