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It wasn't specified into which group Holonovel Doctor would fall (despite rather a lot of feedback about this lack of clarity both last time and this time!), so there's no morphing going on - he's just in the "small bonus" subset of "bonus crew".
Last week you said "Holonovel Doctor, will be a bonus crew for the event starting on 11/12". Has he morphed to be Author Doctor now?
It means small bonus as a variant of the Author Doc. Author is event, all EMH by default as variants will give small bonus. That is what they attempted to say. Honestly, half this thread is going to be this repeated issue just like last time. I think they would do less damage and waste less time if they simply deleted that. All that matters is who the rank reward is, his relevance to the next event is minor.
Ah OK. I expect most people read it the same way I did. And honestly, I don't know why not just have Holonovel the featured crew instead of Author. But, it doesn't really make that much difference.
I'm imagining an ending with Seska ending up assimilated by the Borg. That would even open up some real drama dialogue between Seven, Janeway, and Chakotay.
Seska becomes the Borg Queen...!
She would have settled for nothing less! That ambitious Cardassian/Maquis/Kazon.
Last week you said "Holonovel Doctor, will be a bonus crew for the event starting on 11/12". Has he morphed to be Author Doctor now?
It means small bonus as a variant of the Author Doc. Author is event, all EMH by default as variants will give small bonus. That is what they attempted to say. Honestly, half this thread is going to be this repeated issue just like last time. I think they would do less damage and waste less time if they simply deleted that. All that matters is who the rank reward is, his relevance to the next event is minor.
Or if they simply say upfront he is Small Bonus.......
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Ah OK. I expect most people read it the same way I did. And honestly, I don't know why not just have Holonovel the featured crew instead of Author. But, it doesn't really make that much difference.
Because I imagine there would be a whole new outrage at getting the same crew in the threshold rewards two weeks in a row.
woohoo a new seska AND is anybody somehow, after all this time, actually OUT of MED boosts after the couple of galaxies we had that used them during spocktober?
thanks as always Shan!!
I liked Seska and wish they hadn’t gone the villain route.
I wish they had kept her as the villain longer. She could have shown up with the Vidiians, or maybe some other species along the way. Maybe redemption at some point. I just know that more would have been better. I mean, she was a Cardassian after all. They are (imo) the best villains and anti-heroes in all of Star Trek.
They should have found a way to increase her story-arc. I thought the potential for her character was lost on the Kazon. Towards the end of the series, giving her a possible way to gain redemption at the cost of herself would have been very interesting. Or at the very least, if she had barely failed in some epic plot of Voyager destruction during the final season.
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I liked Seska and wish they hadn’t gone the villain route.
I wish they had kept her as the villain longer. She could have shown up with the Vidiians, or maybe some other species along the way. Maybe redemption at some point. I just know that more would have been better. I mean, she was a Cardassian after all. They are (imo) the best villains and anti-heroes in all of Star Trek.
They should have found a way to increase her story-arc. I thought the potential for her character was lost on the Kazon. Towards the end of the series, giving her a possible way to gain redemption at the cost of herself would have been very interesting. Or at the very least, if she had barely failed in some epic plot of Voyager destruction during the final season.
What if she had sacrificed herself to make sure that her baby was delivered to Voyager to be raised by Chakotay? That could have been a pretty tense episode.
Her arc was one of the terrible things about the first two seasons (mind you, I love Voyager). It would have been far more believable if she was twisting the Kazon to pursue Voyager because she didn't want to be left behind. The promise of riches, as bait, and all that. Kind of an "I wanted to get away, but in retrospect, that was a really bad idea" kind of thing. As it was - it made no sense that Kazon space was that vast, and yet they kept running into the same ships.
Instead of making her a legitimate case of strange bedfellows trying to get along (like they tried to do with the Maquis crew), they just made her a cartoon villain. Missed opportunity if you ask me...
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How bad a commander was Chakotay? His small maquis ship he commanded had Tuvok, a Federation spy, Seska, a Cardassian spy, and Lon Suder, a violent murderer.
How bad a commander was Chakotay? His small maquis ship he commanded had Tuvok, a Federation spy, Seska, a Cardassian spy, and Lon Suder, a violent murderer.
From memory I think he also crashed/damaged the most shuttles through the whole series, so not a great pilot either
How bad a commander was Chakotay? His small maquis ship he commanded had Tuvok, a Federation spy, Seska, a Cardassian spy, and Lon Suder, a violent murderer.
From memory I think he also crashed/damaged the most shuttles through the whole series, so not a great pilot either
To be fair to Chakotay, those were some pretty terrible shuttles. So much so they built the Delta Flyer to have a new shuttle to crash every week.
I will admit the Kazon caused me to quit watching Trek for a while. So bad.
That always bothered me, too. They could have used Seska more to make that more realistic, but they didn't. Now... the first season on most Trek series are awkward, so I gave them a pass on s1. But when the Kazon were back in s2, it just grated on my nerves.
Her arc was one of the terrible things about the first two seasons (mind you, I love Voyager). It would have been far more believable if she was twisting the Kazon to pursue Voyager because she didn't want to be left behind. The promise of riches, as bait, and all that. Kind of an "I wanted to get away, but in retrospect, that was a really bad idea" kind of thing. As it was - it made no sense that Kazon space was that vast, and yet they kept running into the same ships.
Instead of making her a legitimate case of strange bedfellows trying to get along (like they tried to do with the Maquis crew), they just made her a cartoon villain. Missed opportunity if you ask me...
I agree with you. Voyager had a tendency to take the easy way out of interesting plotlines and potentially complex characters arcs.
Seska could have been a much better villain if she kept chasing them and confronting them and, as you said, if she had just used the Kazon to gain a more reasonable type of advantage. The idea that someone as cunning as her would side with the Kazon, people who didn't have the slightest respect for her and no means whatsoever to get her back to the Alpha quadrant, just out of spite, doesn't make much sense.
Her arc was one of the terrible things about the first two seasons (mind you, I love Voyager). It would have been far more believable if she was twisting the Kazon to pursue Voyager because she didn't want to be left behind. The promise of riches, as bait, and all that. Kind of an "I wanted to get away, but in retrospect, that was a really bad idea" kind of thing. As it was - it made no sense that Kazon space was that vast, and yet they kept running into the same ships.
Instead of making her a legitimate case of strange bedfellows trying to get along (like they tried to do with the Maquis crew), they just made her a cartoon villain. Missed opportunity if you ask me...
I agree with you. Voyager had a tendency to take the easy way out of interesting plotlines and potentially complex characters arcs.
Seska could have been a much better villain if she kept chasing them and confronting them and, as you said, if she had just used the Kazon to gain a more reasonable type of advantage. The idea that someone as cunning as her would side with the Kazon, people who didn't have the slightest respect for her and no means whatsoever to get her back to the Alpha quadrant, just out of spite, doesn't make much sense.
Agreed. I really did not like that portion of Voyager. She could have been a great, continual antagonist for the Voyager crew. I think about all the places she could have been inserted into the series to add significant wrinkles to the plot...
Also, if it had happened, getting her child back to the crew would have been an interesting story line.
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It would be funny if we had to "build" Barclay's nose.
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It would be funny if we had to "build" Barclay's nose.
I'm pretty sure devs have done similar things in the past. I almost expect something like that.
Considering some of the stuff we build, I expect at least three levels will need a nose.....
Maybe a legendary nose.
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Hmm, why the nerfed conditional ship ability for Seska? If she had a crazy high atk buff or swung super fast maybe, but she seems middle of the road otherwise. Not many battles are going to last long enough for a third swing with her timing.
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It wasn't specified into which group Holonovel Doctor would fall (despite rather a lot of feedback about this lack of clarity both last time and this time!), so there's no morphing going on - he's just in the "small bonus" subset of "bonus crew".
It means small bonus as a variant of the Author Doc. Author is event, all EMH by default as variants will give small bonus. That is what they attempted to say. Honestly, half this thread is going to be this repeated issue just like last time. I think they would do less damage and waste less time if they simply deleted that. All that matters is who the rank reward is, his relevance to the next event is minor.
She would have settled for nothing less! That ambitious Cardassian/Maquis/Kazon.
Small Bonus because he is a variant of EMH.......
Or if they simply say upfront he is Small Bonus.......
Because I imagine there would be a whole new outrage at getting the same crew in the threshold rewards two weeks in a row.
thanks as always Shan!!
You will need to remove Holonovel Doc from Cryostaysis if he is immortalised and frozen
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They should have found a way to increase her story-arc. I thought the potential for her character was lost on the Kazon. Towards the end of the series, giving her a possible way to gain redemption at the cost of herself would have been very interesting. Or at the very least, if she had barely failed in some epic plot of Voyager destruction during the final season.
What if she had sacrificed herself to make sure that her baby was delivered to Voyager to be raised by Chakotay? That could have been a pretty tense episode.
Instead of making her a legitimate case of strange bedfellows trying to get along (like they tried to do with the Maquis crew), they just made her a cartoon villain. Missed opportunity if you ask me...
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From memory I think he also crashed/damaged the most shuttles through the whole series, so not a great pilot either
To be fair to Chakotay, those were some pretty terrible shuttles. So much so they built the Delta Flyer to have a new shuttle to crash every week.
That always bothered me, too. They could have used Seska more to make that more realistic, but they didn't. Now... the first season on most Trek series are awkward, so I gave them a pass on s1. But when the Kazon were back in s2, it just grated on my nerves.
I agree with you. Voyager had a tendency to take the easy way out of interesting plotlines and potentially complex characters arcs.
Seska could have been a much better villain if she kept chasing them and confronting them and, as you said, if she had just used the Kazon to gain a more reasonable type of advantage. The idea that someone as cunning as her would side with the Kazon, people who didn't have the slightest respect for her and no means whatsoever to get her back to the Alpha quadrant, just out of spite, doesn't make much sense.
Agreed. I really did not like that portion of Voyager. She could have been a great, continual antagonist for the Voyager crew. I think about all the places she could have been inserted into the series to add significant wrinkles to the plot...
Also, if it had happened, getting her child back to the crew would have been an interesting story line.
I'm pretty sure devs have done similar things in the past. I almost expect something like that.
Considering some of the stuff we build, I expect at least three levels will need a nose.....
Maybe a legendary nose.
thanks shan!
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