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No Honor Sale in January (spoiler: optimism ahead!)

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  • CalhounCalhoun ✭✭✭✭✭
    Forget honour, I am desperately waiting for a crew slot sale.
  • MiT SanoaMiT Sanoa ✭✭✭✭✭
    It would be way easier for them to strike “sale” part of it.

    Just make legendary citations cost 40k honor at all times, and let them include the begold.

    Delete begolds from the honor hall

    Reduce price of super rare citations to 8k honor

    Just eliminate the sale part. I mean just think it through. Even with that pricing being constant, it STILL wont be possible to keep up with immortalizing all legendaries as they are released without dropping serious cash.

    Just open it up and take away the reason for hoarding. And never offer a “honor sale” again.

    This would for sure be the best solution.
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  • CalhounCalhoun ✭✭✭✭✭
    And to be honest the thing that disappointed me was the reply to the possibility of different ending times for the gauntlet. I do realize that it would be somewhat complicated to implement, but the reasoning that it would take longer to get people to join one didn't really make sense to me. It's not like now we're staying up until 2 am to join with everyone else anyway. It seems to me like they're not even considering the issue, which might be because it doesn't affect all players.

    Yeah, that disappointed me as well. It is an entrenched disadvantage for those in different timezones, and there seems to be no real consideration of possibilities to address it.
  • ThurthoradThurthorad ✭✭✭✭✭
    HaBlack wrote: »
    Thurthorad wrote: »
    I do think that they should create some new Distress Calls that require really, really high stats to do, maybe even distress calls that are not doable or critable when they are released. That might drive demand for new crew.

    Well I generally agree with you, but if there are missions that cannot be done with existing crew and maxed bonuses there are going to be a lot of torches and pitchforks.
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    But I think that is actually great idea because it can give a lot of older players new targets to reach.

    Sure, and sometimes you have to do things for the good of the game and take the pitchforks on the chin.
  • IceCatIceCat ✭✭✭✭✭
    IceCat wrote: »
    AviTrek wrote: »
    But @Prime Lorca [10F] we have heard of changes coming for months - and years. And the only latest change we have truly had was the event button that was actually not needed.

    They just had an employee spend an hour talk about all the upcoming changes in the next ~1.5 months. Including new things happening for the rest of convergence day. Why don't we wait to see those changes before breaking out the pitchforks.

    Because, if we are being brutally honest, nothing is ever going to please these types of people. Short of literally giving them everything they want/demand.

    I don't think I've ever seen even a single comment from this person in particular that wasn't negative.
    I don't think anything will satisfy her tbh.

    I was where you are at 3 and 4 years ago, always standing up for the game - and DB, which I used to call Uncle DB. And all of this during the huge DB:Do Better time when so many were upset at DB for basically the same things that TP is doing. So once you have been in the game for as long as many of us have been, you will probably also feel the same way we do.

    It is strange.... on this very forum someone, and I forget who, said the exact same thing to me that I am saying to you. And I shrugged it off and told them that I loved the game and that Uncle DB was doing great things. I guess I was naive back then.

    With all due respect, I'd rather be naive than negative.

    As I said in the message you responded to, maybe a break from the game is in order if you feel this way. Or, with regards to how you currently play, change things up somehow.

    There's no sense in continuing as is, if you are that unhappy.

    I'd also maybe try @(HGH)Apollo's approach. Take something you enjoy from current Trek, and focus on that. That could be part of setting new goals/changing how you currently play.

    I wish you well, regardless of what choice you make.

    🖖
  • W.W. CarlisleW.W. Carlisle ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2021
    I haven't been around nearly as long as a lot of you, but I am not naive. I won't blindly defend them, but I won't demand perfection either. That would be an impossible standard for anyone. I can't do it and I won't expect it of others. I will tolerate honest mistakes, so long as they are rectified in some way and learned from.
    Mixing up files and miscalculations are understandable to a certain degree. Holiday hours, unusual working conditions, and who knows what else make for a perfect storm. I once managed to set myself on fire at church through a combination of choices that seemed right at the time and bad luck. Things happen. Accidents, honest mistakes, and bad luck can be forgiven and I'm happy to do so.
    I, however, have a zero tolerance policy on stupid. Unrepentant idiocy drives me to rage that makes a Vulcan on trellium downright cuddly. Comment moderated. ~Shan

    They made a mistake with Adira and they came up with a pretty reasonable remedy on an understandable timetable, considering how they chose to implement it. I will let that go. I have no doubt that crew variants have similar file names. I code. I have uploaded the same file twice because the names are similar. It happens.

    I'm curious just what data they looked at when calculating the thresholds, but bad numbers or a bad formula can make a mess of things and math is not most people's strong suits and it happened over a holiday when there was less oversight.

    On the subject of the honor sale
    -Yes, I was hoping for one, as I do have a bit of a stash, but I'm low on slots. Even with about ten open normally, that isn't enough if I need to pull many crew from the vault. This means while I want a sale, I would prefer it a bit later. I'll have more honor and more room. This means I was neutral on the idea.

    -Someone pointed out they rarely repeat themselves on CD, so an honor sale wasn't very likely. I wasn't even really expecting it, in truth.

    -With the recent news update, I think the delay is strategic. We were told to horde packs for this new feature. Lots of people burn theirs up during an honor sale for fuel. Telling people to save them and then doing something that encourages them to burn up whatever they have saved since the portal update would be a bit stupid. They could have had a sale and then they would have people ticked about not being warned. They held off a sale and gave us a heads up. Depending on this feature, it may be well worth it. There are a LOT of pieces in play. I will hold off until I see more moves play out. This is chess, not checkers.

    With these considerations, I will reserve judgement.
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  • Princess TristaPrincess Trista ✭✭✭✭✭
    IceCat wrote: »
    IceCat wrote: »
    AviTrek wrote: »

    With all due respect, I'd rather be naive than negative.

    As I said in the message you responded to, maybe a break from the game is in order if you feel this way. Or, with regards to how you currently play, change things up somehow.

    There's no sense in continuing as is, if you are that unhappy.

    I'd also maybe try @(HGH)Apollo's approach. Take something you enjoy from current Trek, and focus on that. That could be part of setting new goals/changing how you currently play.

    I wish you well, regardless of what choice you make.

    🖖

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  • Personally i feel like a lot of the other posts, this on top of everything else from no Christmas recognition yet the staff take a holiday and still decide to put on a time heavy event over christmas, to changing event reward, this just feels like another disappointment.
    Listening to some of the stream, i honestly wonder what TP does, everything from mini events, to new locations, to a new distress call is on the back burner and no immediate hope of happening.
    All we have had is a very annoying event button, that just duplicated what we already had.
    And going off topic then there is the suspiciously high top 10 ever week, which doesn't appear to be ever mentioned anymore.
    So yes I'm disappointed, I'm just grinding out this game at lvl 99, picking events that motivate me and for someone like me who rarely buys packs the honour portal is important to me and this just feels like another let down.
  • Veterinary PhloxVeterinary Phlox ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, there are a bunch of things on the back burner - but we've also been told there's a major feature coming in February, and we'll get a sneak peek today.
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  • Cpt_insano_2k1Cpt_insano_2k1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, there are a bunch of things on the back burner - but we've also been told there's a major feature coming in February, and we'll get a sneak peek today.

    There won’t be a sneak peak until Ben goes on timelines talks later this month or early next month.

    The announcement today has to do with a “big change” which has been hinted at having to do with premium portal packs.
  • Yes, there are a bunch of things on the back burner - but we've also been told there's a major feature coming in February, and we'll get a sneak peek today.

    But it still doesn't answer what they're actually doing, other games have several updates a year adding new features, we get a button.
    I need motivation and the thought of the honor sale motivated me.
    Even this event is nothing special, its just another boring event with a story arc spanning two events, that no one cares about.
    My ideal Christmas/anniversary period would have been a give away at Christmas followed by the honor sale then this 2 part event could have provided a way to win a 5 star in the thresholds.
    These new changes really need to be big to leave me not underwhelmed.
  • Prime LorcaPrime Lorca ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, there are a bunch of things on the back burner - but we've also been told there's a major feature coming in February, and we'll get a sneak peek today.

    But it still doesn't answer what they're actually doing, other games have several updates a year adding new features, we get a button.
    I need motivation and the thought of the honor sale motivated me.
    Even this event is nothing special, its just another boring event with a story arc spanning two events, that no one cares about.
    My ideal Christmas/anniversary period would have been a give away at Christmas followed by the honor sale then this 2 part event could have provided a way to win a 5 star in the thresholds.
    These new changes really need to be big to leave me not underwhelmed.

    Ben said there are further additions (or something) to the new feature planned for later this year. Hopefully they can deliver and be more in line with your expectations.

    I saw a few people discussing the story in the event thread. Some folks care.
    Farewell 🖖
  • JeanLucKirkJeanLucKirk ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw a few people discussing the story in the event thread. Some folks care.

    In the past people often said that story over action separated Star Trek from Star Wars. Well, times have changed. And although I personally found the third season of Discovery the best so far it is a "child of the times". Much brainless action in the finale and further winks to Star Wars with the droids for example.

    That aside: The focus of DB when they started was on story-driven games (the new company with many old employees continues that path which is fine). And although I always found the temporal anomaly to be a mere device to explain how all these people from so many different timelines can come together for STT it is a vital part of this game still.

    The current arc touches this and Convergence Day + usually the stories are solidly written. So I care about that 2. Especially since I always referred to STT as an interactive storybook (and before the new series a nostalgic trip) anyway...

  • @JeanLucKirk If we’re making the franchise comparison, then i’d say watching Disco season three and season two of The Mandalorian at the same time wasn’t a good idea- Mando is probably my favorite show right now and not that I don’t like Disco, but oh well you know... :tongue:
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  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    Discovery season 3 was great. One of the best seasons of any Star Trek.
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  • Discovery season 3 was great. One of the best seasons of any Star Trek.

    I’m not saying it wasn’t, i’m just saying I liked Mando a little bit better :wink:
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  • If we have an honor sale...great. If not, hopefully we receive one in the future. Either way, life will go on.
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  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    Discovery season 3 was great. One of the best seasons of any Star Trek.

    I’m not saying it wasn’t, i’m just saying I liked Mando a little bit better :wink:

    Cool. Still have to see Mandalorian season 2. I hated the way season 1 ended so been reticent to start season 2.
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  • JeanLucKirkJeanLucKirk ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mando is probably my favorite show right now and not that I don’t like Disco, but oh well you know... :tongue:

    Hehe, cannot say anything about The Mandalorian, but heard good things about it o:)

  • The current arc touches this and Convergence Day + usually the stories are solidly written. So I care about that 2. Especially since I always referred to STT as an interactive storybook (and before the new series a nostalgic trip) anyway...
    I do apologise for saying no one cares about the stories but i Still feel if you are going to have a special 2 part event couldn't TP have made it special.
    I know we have received Paris and will soon get Adira free but this event could have been made more entertaining, if not a 5 star in the threshold maybe another 4 star to make this event different to normal.
    I'm disappointed about the honor sale but its more about the lack of developments or just freshness to the game, just by tweaking an event it feels different and getting my hopes up only to find a minor premium pack change that would have normally been added to an update with no fanfare, hasnt helped my recent underwhelmed feeling.

  • W.W. CarlisleW.W. Carlisle ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, whatever they are doing, I can tell they are working on something. It is bouncing me out during Arena again :* It was good for a while.
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