Ben mentioned two new currencies are coming for the feature, so if won't be a piece of cake to "buy" crew. Maybe one currency if you already have a star, and a different one if you want to start from scratch?
@robownage That would be cool, especially if before you get the first star on say voyage only crew it could be locked but after you get the first star you would be able to add stars via this?
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So we will have specific crew twiddling their thumbs instead of random crew?
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So we will have specific crew twiddling their thumbs instead of random crew?
How is this different from now?
It is not.
Wir, die Mirror Tribbles [MiT] haben freie Plätze zu vergeben. Kein Zwang und kein Stress, dafür aber Spaß, Discord und eine nette, hilfsbereite Gemeinschaft, incl. voll ausgebauter Starbase und täglich 700 ISM.
So we will have specific crew twiddling their thumbs instead of random crew?
How is this different from now?
It is not.
And, so, we remain. We also hope.
We? I do not hope any more. And for the first part, I am considering.
They spent many months on this and will spend more on further phases. To me this sounds like there was no new playing content on the horizon for a very long time.
Wir, die Mirror Tribbles [MiT] haben freie Plätze zu vergeben. Kein Zwang und kein Stress, dafür aber Spaß, Discord und eine nette, hilfsbereite Gemeinschaft, incl. voll ausgebauter Starbase und täglich 700 ISM.
So we will have specific crew twiddling their thumbs instead of random crew?
How is this different from now?
It is not.
And, so, we remain. We also hope.
We? I do not hope any more. And for the first part, I am considering.
They spent many months on this and will spend more on further phases. To me this sounds like there was no new playing content on the horizon for a very long time.
It depends on how it's implemented. If ultimately it's just a straight up market, I think that'll be a bit disappointing. But nothing about the announcement says there won't be new things to do in order to get those currencies. The fact that it's a phased approach, IMO, leads me to think (hope?) that it'll be pretty bare bones at the start, but ramp up as things go on. Probably not right away, but maybe a new game mode in phase 2 or 3.
So we will have specific crew twiddling their thumbs instead of random crew?
How is this different from now?
It is not.
And, so, we remain. We also hope.
We? I do not hope any more. And for the first part, I am considering.
They spent many months on this and will spend more on further phases. To me this sounds like there was no new playing content on the horizon for a very long time.
It depends on how it's implemented. If ultimately it's just a straight up market, I think that'll be a bit disappointing. But nothing about the announcement says there won't be new things to do in order to get those currencies. The fact that it's a phased approach, IMO, leads me to think (hope?) that it'll be pretty bare bones at the start, but ramp up as things go on. Probably not right away, but maybe a new game mode in phase 2 or 3.
Again, hope. It’s free.
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So we will have specific crew twiddling their thumbs instead of random crew?
How is this different from now?
It is not.
And, so, we remain. We also hope.
We? I do not hope any more. And for the first part, I am considering.
They spent many months on this and will spend more on further phases. To me this sounds like there was no new playing content on the horizon for a very long time.
It depends on how it's implemented. If ultimately it's just a straight up market, I think that'll be a bit disappointing. But nothing about the announcement says there won't be new things to do in order to get those currencies. The fact that it's a phased approach, IMO, leads me to think (hope?) that it'll be pretty bare bones at the start, but ramp up as things go on. Probably not right away, but maybe a new game mode in phase 2 or 3.
Hmmm you are right, the announcement does not exclude the possibility of a new game mode. But I am having a hard time to hope for that sort of silver lining.
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I'm thinking that the trait of the card is the key to this.
A lot of emphasis on this.
Perhaps, you have a "Gambler" Behold-type, and you will randomly pull from the pool of cards with Gambler as the trait. Narrower search, but still random and somewhat targeted.
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So we will have specific crew twiddling their thumbs instead of random crew?
I’ll take a chance at targeted crew as opposed to aimless RNG. Will it be any better? We’ll find out...
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I'm thinking that the trait of the card is the key to this.
A lot of emphasis on this.
Perhaps, you have a "Gambler" Behold-type, and you will randomly pull from the pool of cards with Gambler as the trait. Narrower search, but still random and somewhat targeted.
That, or one of the currencies are for begold rerolls.
If you have the ability to pull a behold from any trait, what would you pick?
Would players simply try to park it on Physician or Seven of Nine?
That would be the trick. Wouldn’t it? Maybe that’s what the new currency buys you. A choice.
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there's almost no new content here. You're basically collecting currency and materials, to visit a section of existing space, narrowed down by traits and hoping to get a character in that pool.
I'm extremely disappointed that we haven't seen a new game mode since Skirmishes were put in, and still don't have any new content where we actually get to use characters we've been compiling for 5 years. It's just the same old tired events, voyages and gauntlet.
This game will bleed players if there are no new game modes coming, which is sad to say, but it's a bitter truth.
there's almost no new content here. You're basically collecting currency and materials, to visit a section of existing space, narrowed down by traits and hoping to get a character in that pool.
I'm extremely disappointed that we haven't seen a new game mode since Skirmishes were put in, and still don't have any new content where we actually get to use characters we've been compiling for 5 years. It's just the same old tired events, voyages and gauntlet.
This game will bleed players if there are no new game modes coming, which is sad to say, but it's a bitter truth.
And yet, the new feature has been hyped like it is the greatest thing since "God created them male and female"......
What if I told you not every single nit needs to be picked literally to death?
If you have the ability to pull a behold from any trait, what would you pick?
Right now it'd be Android because I have two mission nodes still locked and I need them cleared!!!
I get the impression that, if we're right about what this new feature is, it'll benefit players like myself who actually need cards with specific traits to finish the missions, but not so much advanced players who have cleared all the missions. Or maybe the benefit to them is to be able to get cards to help with voyages? But then how would you know what trait to target when they seem to generate randomly with each new voyage... Or maybe for Gauntlet when there's a certain amount of trait combos...
Or maybe the benefit to them is to be able to get cards to help with voyages? But then how would you know what trait to target when they seem to generate randomly with each new voyage... Or maybe for Gauntlet when there's a certain amount of trait combos...
(P.S. can we make Janeway a trait? )
What is needed for voyages has already been cataloged. There are something like only 6 different traits for the two Medical slots.
I use this table to find the blind spots in my crew. Which traits I am lacking for voyages when it comes to FE/FF legendaries?
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There's a lot of speculation and doom-mongering here based on minimal information. Not that I'm blaming anyone, when TP don't give us anywhere near enough information it's hard to avoid filling in the blanks.
Personally, I'm happy to wait a week for some concrete info before I start either worrying or celebrating.
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I had a similar idea to yours Captain Kirk J. I had not thought of your idea for having targeted beholds, but I will adapt/graft your idea onto my own to create what to me seems a likely manifestiation.
I am not sure how we will acquire them, but I think we will be given the chance to acquire tokens/runes/keys/etc for specific traits. These will be a currency, and will allow us to make specific trait-based choices during beholds.
So for example, say you acquired an "Undercover Operative" key and you are currently chasing a copy of Sinister Picard. While opening a pack you hit a behold but instead of 3 crew popping up a menu with all the traits you have keys for will be displayed, and you select "Undercover Operative" and the behold displays 3 crew with that trait, increasing your chances to win Sinister Picard. The key is consumed in the process.
there's almost no new content here. You're basically collecting currency and materials, to visit a section of existing space, narrowed down by traits and hoping to get a character in that pool.
I'm extremely disappointed that we haven't seen a new game mode since Skirmishes were put in, and still don't have any new content where we actually get to use characters we've been compiling for 5 years. It's just the same old tired events, voyages and gauntlet.
This game will bleed players if there are no new game modes coming, which is sad to say, but it's a bitter truth.
If it is merely a bland and/or heavily paywalled feature to obtain a specified class of crew, consider me bled. I will see no future in the game if that is so.
However, I hold out hope that there will be some interesting and worthwhile gameplay around it.
(I would love to tag you Captain Kirk J but there are too many forum accounts that begin with "Captain" for the pulldown box to handle)
I had a similar idea to yours Captain Kirk J. I had not thought of your idea for having targeted beholds, but I will adapt/graft your idea onto my own to create what to me seems a likely manifestiation.
I am not sure how we will acquire them, but I think we will be given the chance to acquire tokens/runes/keys/etc for specific traits. These will be a currency, and will allow us to make specific trait-based choices during beholds.
So for example, say you acquired an "Undercover Operative" key and you are currently chasing a copy of Sinister Picard. While opening a pack you hit a behold but instead of 3 crew popping up a menu with all the traits you have keys for will be displayed, and you select "Undercover Operative" and the behold displays 3 crew with that trait, increasing your chances to win Sinister Picard. The key is consumed in the process.
That is my guess for how it will work.
Well stated. It’s along the lines of thinking I had.
- Targeted beholds pointing to a subgroup or trait pool.
- New currency to give you a choice.
- Cleaned up traits so there are no shallow pools. Goodbye Spy.
- If the Mega is a Romantic theme, I wonder if a Romantic behold would play into this.
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Portal boosts? Like for skills in a shuttle, only they can improve the odds of a trait. Small boosts to 5* boost.
Perhaps a one of the new currencies can be used like a wager? You can choose and increase the odds a specific trait(s) by using a sliding scale, like donating starbase components? You collect it like Intel, honour, or merits?
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Just good timing when I clicked on the wrong forum by mistake bahaha. Didn't even read the post, but now I've read it and I'm definitely excited!
Thank you for listening - I'm optimistic about how this will turn out!
An audit of crew traits too!
Posted and the discussion thread as well
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Proud member of Patterns of Force
Captain Level 99
Played since January 2017
TP: Do better!!!
How is this different from now?
It is not.
And, so, we remain. We also hope.
Kudos to the STT team. Y’all did a good thing, and I appreciate it. I look forward to more of such from y’all in the future.
LLAP
We? I do not hope any more. And for the first part, I am considering.
They spent many months on this and will spend more on further phases. To me this sounds like there was no new playing content on the horizon for a very long time.
It depends on how it's implemented. If ultimately it's just a straight up market, I think that'll be a bit disappointing. But nothing about the announcement says there won't be new things to do in order to get those currencies. The fact that it's a phased approach, IMO, leads me to think (hope?) that it'll be pretty bare bones at the start, but ramp up as things go on. Probably not right away, but maybe a new game mode in phase 2 or 3.
Again, hope. It’s free.
Hmmm you are right, the announcement does not exclude the possibility of a new game mode. But I am having a hard time to hope for that sort of silver lining.
A lot of emphasis on this.
Perhaps, you have a "Gambler" Behold-type, and you will randomly pull from the pool of cards with Gambler as the trait. Narrower search, but still random and somewhat targeted.
Playing since June 14th, 2019
Captain Level 80 / VIP 12
Crew Quarters: 241/270
Immortalized [436]: 5* x30, 4* x239, 3* x89, 2* x53, and 1* x27
Most recent Immortal: Deral (4/4)
Current Project: Waiting for sale with 680k Honor
Completed Collections: Eugenics, Daystrom, Romulan, Ferengi, Do No Harm, Veteran, EV Suit, Rare, Uncommon and Common
I’ll take a chance at targeted crew as opposed to aimless RNG. Will it be any better? We’ll find out...
That, or one of the currencies are for begold rerolls.
Would players simply try to park it on Physician or Seven of Nine?
That would be the trick. Wouldn’t it? Maybe that’s what the new currency buys you. A choice.
Playing since June 14th, 2019
Captain Level 80 / VIP 12
Crew Quarters: 241/270
Immortalized [436]: 5* x30, 4* x239, 3* x89, 2* x53, and 1* x27
Most recent Immortal: Deral (4/4)
Current Project: Waiting for sale with 680k Honor
Completed Collections: Eugenics, Daystrom, Romulan, Ferengi, Do No Harm, Veteran, EV Suit, Rare, Uncommon and Common
I'm extremely disappointed that we haven't seen a new game mode since Skirmishes were put in, and still don't have any new content where we actually get to use characters we've been compiling for 5 years. It's just the same old tired events, voyages and gauntlet.
This game will bleed players if there are no new game modes coming, which is sad to say, but it's a bitter truth.
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And yet, the new feature has been hyped like it is the greatest thing since "God created them male and female"......
Right now it'd be Android because I have two mission nodes still locked and I need them cleared!!!
I get the impression that, if we're right about what this new feature is, it'll benefit players like myself who actually need cards with specific traits to finish the missions, but not so much advanced players who have cleared all the missions. Or maybe the benefit to them is to be able to get cards to help with voyages? But then how would you know what trait to target when they seem to generate randomly with each new voyage... Or maybe for Gauntlet when there's a certain amount of trait combos...
(P.S. can we make Janeway a trait?
What is needed for voyages has already been cataloged. There are something like only 6 different traits for the two Medical slots.
I use this table to find the blind spots in my crew. Which traits I am lacking for voyages when it comes to FE/FF legendaries?
Playing since June 14th, 2019
Captain Level 80 / VIP 12
Crew Quarters: 241/270
Immortalized [436]: 5* x30, 4* x239, 3* x89, 2* x53, and 1* x27
Most recent Immortal: Deral (4/4)
Current Project: Waiting for sale with 680k Honor
Completed Collections: Eugenics, Daystrom, Romulan, Ferengi, Do No Harm, Veteran, EV Suit, Rare, Uncommon and Common
Personally, I'm happy to wait a week for some concrete info before I start either worrying or celebrating.
I had a similar idea to yours Captain Kirk J. I had not thought of your idea for having targeted beholds, but I will adapt/graft your idea onto my own to create what to me seems a likely manifestiation.
I am not sure how we will acquire them, but I think we will be given the chance to acquire tokens/runes/keys/etc for specific traits. These will be a currency, and will allow us to make specific trait-based choices during beholds.
So for example, say you acquired an "Undercover Operative" key and you are currently chasing a copy of Sinister Picard. While opening a pack you hit a behold but instead of 3 crew popping up a menu with all the traits you have keys for will be displayed, and you select "Undercover Operative" and the behold displays 3 crew with that trait, increasing your chances to win Sinister Picard. The key is consumed in the process.
That is my guess for how it will work.
If it is merely a bland and/or heavily paywalled feature to obtain a specified class of crew, consider me bled. I will see no future in the game if that is so.
However, I hold out hope that there will be some interesting and worthwhile gameplay around it.
We will find out in a week.
Well stated. It’s along the lines of thinking I had.
- Targeted beholds pointing to a subgroup or trait pool.
- New currency to give you a choice.
- Cleaned up traits so there are no shallow pools. Goodbye Spy.
- If the Mega is a Romantic theme, I wonder if a Romantic behold would play into this.
Playing since June 14th, 2019
Captain Level 80 / VIP 12
Crew Quarters: 241/270
Immortalized [436]: 5* x30, 4* x239, 3* x89, 2* x53, and 1* x27
Most recent Immortal: Deral (4/4)
Current Project: Waiting for sale with 680k Honor
Completed Collections: Eugenics, Daystrom, Romulan, Ferengi, Do No Harm, Veteran, EV Suit, Rare, Uncommon and Common
Perhaps a one of the new currencies can be used like a wager? You can choose and increase the odds a specific trait(s) by using a sliding scale, like donating starbase components? You collect it like Intel, honour, or merits?