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It's impossible to reach the Top 1000 in this event

Well, obviously it's not - 1000 people will make it...
BUT it's impossible for "regular players", meaning non-VIP14 players who don't dump a gazillion DIL into early shuttle return.

* I have BOTH full-bonus 5* crew at L.100 (at 1/5 and 3/5), I have one full-bonus 4*'s FF, and 4 normal-bonus 4*'s FF
* I started off with the get-to-4000VP-immediatey scheme, and thus am at 3500/4000 VP since the beginning of the event
* I didn't waste too much time by keeping the time without active missions small
* I am a squad leader, so am receiving a certain VP bonus percentage
* I almost exclusively invested the legendary shuttle bonuses I collected over time, so 3 of 4 shuttles are almost always >80%, often >90%.
* AND I was relatively lucky with my return, getting sometimes 12000 or 16000 VP in one regular 3h run.

...and still...it's impossible for me to reach Top 1000 for another star for my 5*. heck, I won't even make 1500 for the 4/4 of the one bonus crew that's missing, as it seems, as I'm currently keeping level at around 1800-2200. :-(

Is there something I'm missing? I was hoping by collecting powerful shuttle boosts over months (since all other events weren't worth it for me, since I either had the rank 4* already FF, or did not have the 5*) to make a difference - but they only seem to be a "drop on a hot plate".

I AM high VIP-level, but I'm not VIP 14, and the one thing I will not do is pay for 1000's of DIL to get an early shuttle return. Is the only way to reach the Top 1000 exactly this, or what is the problem? :-/
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  • Paund SkummPaund Skumm ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don’t know... I am not a high VIP... have only 1/5 DF Paris and 4/4 Reed... didn’t store up a lot of boosts (in fact didn’t use many time boosts at all I think 8 three stars in total) and I lost 12 hours yesterday running around airports and sitting on planes with no internet...

    Still around 300 in rank.
  • <watches several people chime in and say they have VIP 0 people in their fleet getting top 1000 easily>

    Crunch, what's the 4k VP scheme you're talking about?
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  • [RotP] Scoustar[RotP] Scoustar ✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Crunch, what's the 4k VP scheme you're talking about?

    The event "kickstart" that gets you to 4k VP shuttles inside 10 mins, rather than trawling through all the lower-prized shuttles.

    Open 30 missions (10 available per faction).
    Run the first 10
    Open another 10 and speed boost (3*/90mins)
    Run the remaining 20
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  • Knight RangerKnight Ranger ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Which is...?

    Is this like the first rule of fight club? lol.gif
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  • Which is...?

    Is this like the first rule of fight club? lol.gif
    Scoustar wrote: »
    Open 30 missions (10 available per faction).
    Run the first 10
    Open another 10 and speed boost (3*/90mins)
    Run the remaining 20
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  • Paund SkummPaund Skumm ✭✭✭✭✭
    <watches several people chime in and say they have VIP 0 people in their fleet getting top 1000 easily>

    Crunch, what's the 4k VP scheme you're talking about?

    Pretty sure he means the shuttle jump start to 4K...

    And this is just me, not some VIP 0 in the fleet. I used only a semi-jump with 4 one min, 4 20 min, 3 one hour then 4 boosted 1.5 hour (instant) so 15 shuttles after 1 hour 20 min the 26 remaining one minute to 41 shuttles in an hour and a half using four time boosts... and one set of time boosts yesterday morning so I could send another set of shuttles before I got on the plane.
  • Scoustar wrote: »
    Open 30 missions (10 available per faction).
    Run the first 10
    Open another 10 and speed boost (3*/90mins)
    Run the remaining 20

    Thanks for that :smile: Still learning the tips and tricks, maybe this'll help me break the 1k barrier.
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  • If you get close without it, you'll smash 1k after learning it :smile:
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  • Paund SkummPaund Skumm ✭✭✭✭✭
    Scoustar wrote: »
    Open 30 missions (10 available per faction).
    Run the first 10
    Open another 10 and speed boost (3*/90mins)
    Run the remaining 20

    Thanks for that :smile: Still learning the tips and tricks, maybe this'll help me break the 1k barrier.

    Wait... I thought you were doing this already because you said you were 3500/4000VP since the beginning.
  • Wait... I thought you were doing this already because you said you were 3500/4000VP since the beginning.

    That's Crunch, not Knight Ranger :wink:
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  • I usually rank in the 4000s when I make an effort. The closest I got going all out (hitting every shuttle turnaround on time, except when asleep and using over 100 3* timers) was 1024.
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  • Commander SinclairCommander Sinclair ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    I think there was a glitch to get to 3500/4000 VP missions this week, because I didn't just through any of those hoops, and I still got 4000 VP missions within the first few hours. Then Thursday night it dropped me back to 2750 mission, where I have been stuck since, and failing about half of them. Very strange this week!
    I want to become a Dilionaire...
  • No more of that for you then. You need 10 3* timers each event, easily and freely obtained every Thursday
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  • Paund SkummPaund Skumm ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Scoustar wrote: »
    Wait... I thought you were doing this already because you said you were 3500/4000VP since the beginning.

    That's Crunch, not Knight Ranger :wink:

    Mea Culpa... or in modern parlance... my bad 🤗
  • I think there was a glitch to get to 3500/4000 VP missions this week, because I didn't just through any of those hoops, and I still got 4000 VP missions within the first few hours. Then Thursday night it dropped me back to 2750 mission, where I have been stuck since, and failing about half of them. Very strange this week!

    RNG has decided it hates you this week :disappointed:
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  • Since this is a rerun you need some really good crew since most everyone has some amount of event crew. There are several kickstart methods, the one mentioned and another that requires far more boosts but gives you more VP. Don't need to spend dil to speed up but buy some event packs early on, level the crew, run 3-4 slot missions that make the most of your crew.
  • You feeling better now? Did you vent enough? Cause that's pretty much all you can do. Nothing is going to change, the RNG will remain the same, and you know why? Because it brings them money! Who cares that the RNG doesn't make a lick of sense? Who cares that the only explanations you will get range from "it works as it SHOULD" (please not the "should" part) to "statistics is the same as probabilities"? It works! It brings money! And as long as they have no legal issues, why would they change things?

    SO, happy venting!
  • Odo MarmarosaOdo Marmarosa ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am mainly a monthly card/special offers buyer, never spend dil to rush shuttles or event packs in advance, currently hanging around #500

    I only do a 30-shuttle kickstart, then I use time boosts to fit around my work schedule until I'm ready for skill boosts. I had a few bad luck streaks and fell down in the point tiers a few times so I didnt reach 4000 points until Friday afternoon.

    Once I reach 4000 points, I open a few extra transmissions. I try to match event crew up with AND nodes whenever possible, but I dont just run the same 4 or allow transmissions to expire if I can help it. I also use the extra 4000 point missions as insurance if I drop down to 3500; this happened once so far this event and I was glad I had the extra missions standing by.

    Had 1/5 FE disguised Kira, immortal Proton Paris and 2/4 FE Combat Medic Paris going into the event, immortalized Cardassian Kira and Rura Penthe Reed after the event started (had him at 2/4 before from previous run of event) Those are my only event crew; did not pull any 3* out of cyro.

    I don't know if any of my tactics make that much of a difference over others or if RNG has been in my favor, but it's not impossible. All I know is that the longer I play the better I generally rank. Still not making sub-1000 all the time but I am more and more frequently.
  • Peachtree RexPeachtree Rex ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    I am VIP 12, 4 shuttles, and am currently 379th (~260k points) and have used 0 time boosts (of any rarity) and am not the lead in my squad. I used a modified version of your 'speed up' strategy but I waited for the early shuttles to finish rather than time boost them. I was at 4k shuttles 5ish hours into the event.

    I have been running FED missions. For each set of 4, I run the 2 3-slot missions and then whichever of the 4-slot missions are best suited for remaining crew.

    Shuttle 1 (Penance)
    1/5 Commander Kira
    4/4 Rura Reed
    5/5 Harvey Mudd

    Shuttle 2 (The Unrepentant Okona)
    5/5 Borg Queen
    3/5 DF Paris (Shared from squad lead)
    4/4 Anastasia

    Shuttle 3 (Long-Distance Care -> Mission and exact crew rotates depending on which one I'm using)
    4/5 Zek
    2/5 Intendent Kira
    4/4 Medic Paris
    4/4 Prinecss Jadzia

    Shuttle 4 (Looks Like Rain -> Same, flexible slot here)
    2/5 Suliban Reed
    1/5 DF Paris
    4/4 Captain Proton Paris
    4/5 Assimilated La Forge

    I know I've also used Cardassian Kira a few times when I'm running different 4 slot missions. My three slotters have ~90% success rate. The four slotters are between 70 and 85. Using 3* Skill boosts on all missions.

    Basically, be selective about which missions you run. If you don't have Medic Paris, avoid the MED one (for example). Don't use 9hr boosts. If you're that close to making it, you need to be hitting your 3 hr windows and overnight boosts are only good if you know you're going to be away for a while.

    Let "bad" shuttle missions expire. Just don't run them.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow so I guess the best way to get help in doing well in the game is to go off on a petulant child-like rant on all the big bad spenders, lol.

    Yeah I've got some VIP under my belt special offers and monthly card like described by at least one player above, but I've got every event and bonus crew other than Suliban Reed and Mikey B. I also have them all at FE, and the 4s FFed. (and Klingon Bride FF as she was my honor dumping project when it was first released.).

    In many cases, I'm getting 4/4 back every time. No time rushes, no dilithium rushes, just some skill boosts. Medic Paris is my current target for MED boosts as I have gained a ton over the last year -- helping with the success rate.

    I do have an advantage coming from a challenge. My daughter is going through night terrors, so after I calm her back down I resend shuttles again in the middle of the night getting even more turnaround all 24 hours....

    So yeah, you're having it rough, but in some cases you're being out played. There are some rushing with DIL, but I can vouch for more than a few handfuls that aren't and are 400-700 right now.
  • Peachtree RexPeachtree Rex ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    I do have an advantage coming from a challenge. My daughter is going through night terrors, so after I calm her back down I resend shuttles again in the middle of the night getting even more turnaround all 24 hours....
    This 'advantage' cannot be overstated ;)
  • Grant77Grant77 ✭✭✭✭
    Crunch wrote: »
    Well, obviously it's not - 1000 people will make it...
    BUT it's impossible for "regular players", meaning non-VIP14 players who don't dump a gazillion DIL into early shuttle return.

    * I have BOTH full-bonus 5* crew at L.100 (at 1/5 and 3/5), I have one full-bonus 4*'s FF, and 4 normal-bonus 4*'s FF
    * I started off with the get-to-4000VP-immediatey scheme, and thus am at 3500/4000 VP since the beginning of the event
    * I didn't waste too much time by keeping the time without active missions small
    * I am a squad leader, so am receiving a certain VP bonus percentage
    * I almost exclusively invested the legendary shuttle bonuses I collected over time, so 3 of 4 shuttles are almost always >80%, often >90%.
    * AND I was relatively lucky with my return, getting sometimes 12000 or 16000 VP in one regular 3h run.

    ...and still...it's impossible for me to reach Top 1000 for another star for my 5*. heck, I won't even make 1500 for the 4/4 of the one bonus crew that's missing, as it seems, as I'm currently keeping level at around 1800-2200. :-(

    Is there something I'm missing? I was hoping by collecting powerful shuttle boosts over months (since all other events weren't worth it for me, since I either had the rank 4* already FF, or did not have the 5*) to make a difference - but they only seem to be a "drop on a hot plate".

    I AM high VIP-level, but I'm not VIP 14, and the one thing I will not do is pay for 1000's of DIL to get an early shuttle return. Is the only way to reach the Top 1000 exactly this, or what is the problem? :-/

    Something isn't adding up here. If you are passing shuttles at an 80% clip and not missing a lot then you will easily be top 500. That's roughly 360,000 VP to this point.

    I'm F2P and my bonus crew (all immortal) are:
    RP Reed
    Captain Proton
    Medic Paris
    Anastasia Komananov
    Cardassian Kira
    (shared) Commander Kira

    That's a considerably worse crew than yours and I'm using 3* boosts. I passing at around 70-75% and not missing any shuttles. I'm ranked about 600th.

    Quit missing shuttles and you will do better. It's not impossible.
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Grant77 wrote: »
    Crunch wrote: »
    Well, obviously it's not - 1000 people will make it...
    BUT it's impossible for "regular players", meaning non-VIP14 players who don't dump a gazillion DIL into early shuttle return.

    * I have BOTH full-bonus 5* crew at L.100 (at 1/5 and 3/5), I have one full-bonus 4*'s FF, and 4 normal-bonus 4*'s FF
    * I started off with the get-to-4000VP-immediatey scheme, and thus am at 3500/4000 VP since the beginning of the event
    * I didn't waste too much time by keeping the time without active missions small
    * I am a squad leader, so am receiving a certain VP bonus percentage
    * I almost exclusively invested the legendary shuttle bonuses I collected over time, so 3 of 4 shuttles are almost always >80%, often >90%.
    * AND I was relatively lucky with my return, getting sometimes 12000 or 16000 VP in one regular 3h run.

    ...and still...it's impossible for me to reach Top 1000 for another star for my 5*. heck, I won't even make 1500 for the 4/4 of the one bonus crew that's missing, as it seems, as I'm currently keeping level at around 1800-2200. :-(

    Is there something I'm missing? I was hoping by collecting powerful shuttle boosts over months (since all other events weren't worth it for me, since I either had the rank 4* already FF, or did not have the 5*) to make a difference - but they only seem to be a "drop on a hot plate".

    I AM high VIP-level, but I'm not VIP 14, and the one thing I will not do is pay for 1000's of DIL to get an early shuttle return. Is the only way to reach the Top 1000 exactly this, or what is the problem? :-/

    Something isn't adding up here. If you are passing shuttles at an 80% clip and not missing a lot then you will easily be top 500. That's roughly 360,000 VP to this point.

    I'm F2P and my bonus crew (all immortal) are:
    RP Reed
    Captain Proton
    Medic Paris
    Anastasia Komananov
    Cardassian Kira
    (shared) Commander Kira

    That's a considerably worse crew than yours and I'm using 3* boosts. I passing at around 70-75% and not missing any shuttles. I'm ranked about 600th.

    Quit missing shuttles and you will do better. It's not impossible.

    I agree, something doesn’t add up. If all is going the way the OP explained, he shouldn’t be needing to have a tantrum here. Everything he explained will easily get into the top 1000.

  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dralix wrote: »
    Grant77 wrote: »
    It's not impossible.

    I think impossible means "I can't do it."

    I thought it was WAAAAAAHHH stop playing so I can catch up.
  • Zann Calcore (ISA)Zann Calcore (ISA) ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Crunch wrote: »
    Well, obviously it's not - 1000 people will make it...
    BUT it's impossible for "regular players", meaning non-VIP14 players who don't dump a gazillion DIL into early shuttle return.

    * I have BOTH full-bonus 5* crew at L.100 (at 1/5 and 3/5), I have one full-bonus 4*'s FF, and 4 normal-bonus 4*'s FF
    * I started off with the get-to-4000VP-immediatey scheme, and thus am at 3500/4000 VP since the beginning of the event
    * I didn't waste too much time by keeping the time without active missions small
    * I am a squad leader, so am receiving a certain VP bonus percentage
    * I almost exclusively invested the legendary shuttle bonuses I collected over time, so 3 of 4 shuttles are almost always >80%, often >90%.
    * AND I was relatively lucky with my return, getting sometimes 12000 or 16000 VP in one regular 3h run.

    ...and still...it's impossible for me to reach Top 1000 for another star for my 5*. heck, I won't even make 1500 for the 4/4 of the one bonus crew that's missing, as it seems, as I'm currently keeping level at around 1800-2200. :-(

    Is there something I'm missing? I was hoping by collecting powerful shuttle boosts over months (since all other events weren't worth it for me, since I either had the rank 4* already FF, or did not have the 5*) to make a difference - but they only seem to be a "drop on a hot plate".

    I AM high VIP-level, but I'm not VIP 14, and the one thing I will not do is pay for 1000's of DIL to get an early shuttle return. Is the only way to reach the Top 1000 exactly this, or what is the problem? :-/

    I have the exact same issue most faction events as well, so you’re not alone. Well, not exact same, in that I usually have 80 to 90 percent shuttles and mysteriously a bunch of them will fail throughout the event, but the same basic gist. Without spending money on speed-ups it often seems impossible to catch up to the 1000 mark. I usually languish in the 2 or 3 thousands without spending anything or too much effort either though, so at least there’s that.
    Weirdly enough, I’m also Vulcan Housewife. Also, RNGesus hates me, like really, REALLY hates me.
  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    I recognize this is the internet and you're all tough guys, but there is no reason to be mean

    Maybe, but I find these threads tiring, as well as misuse of words like, in this case, impossible.

    Every faction event we're subjected to threads like this, saying what is impossible, or what must be done to rank high. And despite multiple examples of how these statements are at best, exaggerations, the threads continue.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    I recognize this is the internet and you're all tough guys, but there is no reason to be mean

    Click bait title alone should be grounds for censure and exile.
  • Grant77Grant77 ✭✭✭✭
    Crunch wrote: »
    Well, obviously it's not - 1000 people will make it...
    BUT it's impossible for "regular players", meaning non-VIP14 players who don't dump a gazillion DIL into early shuttle return.

    * I have BOTH full-bonus 5* crew at L.100 (at 1/5 and 3/5), I have one full-bonus 4*'s FF, and 4 normal-bonus 4*'s FF
    * I started off with the get-to-4000VP-immediatey scheme, and thus am at 3500/4000 VP since the beginning of the event
    * I didn't waste too much time by keeping the time without active missions small
    * I am a squad leader, so am receiving a certain VP bonus percentage
    * I almost exclusively invested the legendary shuttle bonuses I collected over time, so 3 of 4 shuttles are almost always >80%, often >90%.
    * AND I was relatively lucky with my return, getting sometimes 12000 or 16000 VP in one regular 3h run.

    ...and still...it's impossible for me to reach Top 1000 for another star for my 5*. heck, I won't even make 1500 for the 4/4 of the one bonus crew that's missing, as it seems, as I'm currently keeping level at around 1800-2200. :-(

    Is there something I'm missing? I was hoping by collecting powerful shuttle boosts over months (since all other events weren't worth it for me, since I either had the rank 4* already FF, or did not have the 5*) to make a difference - but they only seem to be a "drop on a hot plate".

    I AM high VIP-level, but I'm not VIP 14, and the one thing I will not do is pay for 1000's of DIL to get an early shuttle return. Is the only way to reach the Top 1000 exactly this, or what is the problem? :-/

    I have the exact same issue most faction events as well, so you’re not alone. Well, not exact same, in that I usually have 80 to 90 percent shuttles and mysteriously a bunch of them will fail throughout the event, but the same basic gist. Without spending money on speed-ups it often seems impossible to catch up to the 1000 mark. I usually languish in the 2 or 3 thousands without spending anything or too much effort either though, so at least there’s that.

    You have to set alarms and wake up in the middle of the night. Anyone who does that and gets 70% passes will get top 1000. That's just the way it is.
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