I will set alarm once I do get up in the morning every three hours. At night, I will not set alarm. If I wake up during the night, I will check to see if the shuttles are back, If so, send them back out. Otherwise, when I first wake In the morning I send them out and set the alarm for three hours. I will usually go back to sleep for a while after that.
Again, with the 9 hour boost you usually are lucky if you can get 50% success.
The idea here is you should be able to maintain 7 shuttle runs on Sunday and Saturday. With the alarm to remind you it should allow you to live your life too.
Vip 13
7 bonus crew(Rura reed ff/fe and com Kira 3/5, the rest are super rare)
Kickstart 4000k
Squad leader 35000
4 80% shuttles
3* boost
Start everyday around 500 and reach 200s by night.
I sleep 8 hrs no double rewards boost no wake ups.
I’m definitely not a whale. I’ve failed a bunch but not more than 20%. In other threads it looked like a lot of people had bonus crew for event. I expected it to be much more difficult.
I don't think you need the premium boosts, just a stash load of standard ones. I select the best missions for my crew. I'm also squad lead and have good backup behind me. I have been on the 4000 missions since the start and getting over 80% on both. Currently in 30th is position after having stockpiled on standard boosts since the Mudd event.
I value my sleep so using the 9 hr boosts in the night and still doing fine.
I only go hard at it for events that I want the character for, last weeks for example I was content with position 1500 I got there without using any time boosts easily enough.
To double up on my post and what people have said by now, it is indeed possible to do everything and run voyages in the meantime. What you need to do is keep your best crew for the event and send your B Team to do anything else. With okayish crew 4 hours as a VIP0 @ lvl 40 is very much doable (as my second account proves), and with super rares, you will get up to 6 hours, or roughly 300 chrons on the average.
In essence, you can do everything, and still play the game as intended. I also agree that doing the Mid-tier Thursday challenges is the way to go - it lets you do the kickstart, it gives you plenty of boosters - and if you have the monthly dilithium card trickling in, you should very seriously consider doing some extra runs if you can spare some extra dil for tickets. It will keep you pretty backside safe and warm for many a week in Faction events.
You do realize you can get dil to buy shuttles after immortalizing characters, right?
You do ALSO realize that 10x premium shuttle boosts are free from Thursday cadet challenges?
@Emperor Ellis Is in my fleet which is composed of 50 other VIP0 captains. Our fleet is currently ranked 10th in the game and there are (as others have said) 13 of us in the top 1000.
I know, do you? You need what?? 250 immortalized to get the necessary dilithium for shuttle 3 and 4...and yes, you get 6x 10 = 60 per week. This is not nearly enough to do the shuttle events. 20 of those 60 are worthless double reward which only slows you down and thus they rot in your inventory. In addition you need significantly more DIP/SEC/CMD boosts than SCI/MED/ENG to get the best out of almost every event, so of the other 40 per week you get half that give you considerably less in return than the other half.
I use boosts only during events, never for regular shuttle missions. And I am sitting currently on 44 3* ENG, 30 3* MED and 10 3* SCI and NADA of the rest. The SCI help me a little during the current event, the rest are worthless.
So as VIP 0 you can make it to the top 1000, but...you don't do so easily and you sure as hell don't do so every event but only occasionally with very good crew.
The VIP 0 people in this thread (the real ones, not the imposters) are lying when saying that their squads consisting only of VIP 0 are the best in the fleet. I want to point out that I admire every VIP 0 player because they do not throw money after such a greedy bunch as found at DB...but that does not mean you have to be a dick about it...
I'm not being a dick. I'm pointing out to you how it is possible. You are being combative and argumentative for no reason.
Shuttle 3 can be purchased after getting 75 immortals. Very attainable. Shuttle 4 was attainable very easily thanks to the dil sale last month, or if you get 150 immortals. I collected all one, two, and the star crew and have 50+ for stars at the moment.
I also consistently do get top 500 in faction events.
Screenshot of my immortal count showing my total crew count as well as VIP level
You do realize you can get dil to buy shuttles after immortalizing characters, right?
You do ALSO realize that 10x premium shuttle boosts are free from Thursday cadet challenges?
@Emperor Ellis Is in my fleet which is composed of 50 other VIP0 captains. Our fleet is currently ranked 10th in the game and there are (as others have said) 13 of us in the top 1000.
I know, do you? You need what?? 250 immortalized to get the necessary dilithium for shuttle 3 and 4...and yes, you get 6x 10 = 60 per week. This is not nearly enough to do the shuttle events. 20 of those 60 are worthless double reward which only slows you down and thus they rot in your inventory. In addition you need significantly more DIP/SEC/CMD boosts than SCI/MED/ENG to get the best out of almost every event, so of the other 40 per week you get half that give you considerably less in return than the other half.
I use boosts only during events, never for regular shuttle missions. And I am sitting currently on 44 3* ENG, 30 3* MED and 10 3* SCI and NADA of the rest. The SCI help me a little during the current event, the rest are worthless.
So as VIP 0 you can make it to the top 1000, but...you don't do so easily and you sure as hell don't do so every event but only occasionally with very good crew.
The VIP 0 people in this thread (the real ones, not the imposters) are lying when saying that their squads consisting only of VIP 0 are the best in the fleet. I want to point out that I admire every VIP 0 player because they do not throw money after such a greedy bunch as found at DB...but that does not mean you have to be a dick about it...
I'm not being a dick. I'm pointing out to you how it is possible. You are being combative and argumentative for no reason.
Shuttle 3 can be purchased after getting 75 immortals. Very attainable. Shuttle 4 was attainable very easily thanks to the dil sale last month, or if you get 150 immortals. I collected all one, two, and the star crew and have 50+ for stars at the moment.
I also consistently do get top 500 in faction events.
Screenshot of my immortal count showing my total crew count as well as VIP level
Let's face it, people, impatience is not a virtue. I have played a VIP0 on my alt since April, and on that account, even though being a secondary, I am looking at a level 40 Captain with 48 immortals, FE'd 1/5 Tempted Data, Guinan, Gowron, Borg Queen (2/5), Delta Paris, T'Kuvma (4/5) and Tuvix for gauntlet, and 23 1 and 2 stars in the pipeline to be immortalized, along with 6k chronitons, including a mis-click on FB that got me a Dr. Reyga for 72 Dil, which I reported to DB and got a copy-pasted response (meaning I will get jack for it).
I will repeat myself, but had I known the intricacies of the game back when I was starting in January 2017, and the way it will develop in the future, I would have stayed as a maximum of VIP3 on my main account.
Not trying to be a dick, Just love my fleetmates. Not trying to offend anyone else or there fleets believe what you want. All we are saying is that you can compete in shuttle events and do well as a VIP 0 but you need to be very dedicated. Best of luck to you
I'm betting they do the Thurday challenges on Epic and lose out on the number of good boost pulls and don't realize the 3 of the premium isn't as good a deal.
I only realised this the week before last. I wasted like 8 weeks getting 3 4*s instead of the good rewards. I'm such a fool, but glad to see I might not be alone
I'm betting they do the Thurday challenges on Epic and lose out on the number of good boost pulls and don't realize the 3 of the premium isn't as good a deal.
I only realised this the week before last. I wasted like 8 weeks getting 3 4*s instead of the good rewards. I'm such a fool, but glad to see I might not be alone
This game and this place is full of such things. Really mastery seems to come not only from active strategy but mining the forums old and new for pitfalls to avoid. And that's the thing, theres a lot of deep skills and knowledge that folks have here. It's just a matter of how you want to invoke it.
I wake up in the middle of the night, have less than a 70% average and I am in the top 1000.
You're not in the top 1000 because your crew is not good enough to put you there or your shuttles are more idle than you're admitting to.
Well if my average is above 70% and yours is below 70%, then my crew, apparently, is better than yours. Idle time for me is about the time it takes me to open a new transmission, so as close to zero as possible...if I miss out more than one shuttle (i.e. lose 3 hours) that would be a lot (at least in the past 3 faction events that was the case).
My numbers are published, btw. Check out my recent post in Engineering.
Your crew is not good enough to put you in the top 1000. I don't care about your "numbers" since you couldn't even be bothered to list the number of VP points you're getting per shuttle. Without VP we have no idea what your crew is like. You did make a cryptic reference to getting 1800/2250 shuttles in your post which is almost meaningless.
My crew (L100 FFFE):
Rura Reed
Rura Reed (from squad leader)
Anastasia
Proton Paris
Combat Paris
Cardassian Kira
Baseball Kira (1/4 L100 FE)
This is the kind of crew you will need to score top 1000. After the 40 shuttle rush, I was at 4000 VP shuttles almost the entire weekend except for 3 occasions where I regressed to 3500 VP shuttles. I used some 3* boosts but mostly to insure points for my squad leader and keep things above 60%. I do not fish for easier shuttles, I use whatever missions the game gives me. Regrettably I'll be finishing out of the top 650.
I will set alarm once I do get up in the morning every three hours. At night, I will not set alarm. If I wake up during the night, I will check to see if the shuttles are back, If so, send them back out. Otherwise, when I first wake In the morning I send them out and set the alarm for three hours. I will usually go back to sleep for a while after that.
Again, with the 9 hour boost you usually are lucky if you can get 50% success.
The idea here is you should be able to maintain 7 shuttle runs on Sunday and Saturday. With the alarm to remind you it should allow you to live your life too.
I use the 9 hour boosts overnight and have done better than 50% in this event. Even at 50% it's a wash VP-wise. It feels good sending them out knowing I can forget about the event for a while.
I did it with no dilithium spent. I didn't even buy an event pack. I didn't even pay much attention this weekend because I was playing Overwatch since it was free this weekend. You just need a little bit of luck.
By the way, I'm VIP 5...
My crew (L100 FFFE):
Rura Reed
Rura Reed (from squad leader)
Anastasia
Proton Paris
Combat Paris
Cardassian Kira
Baseball Kira (1/4 L100 FE)
This is the kind of crew you will need to score top 1000.
This is probably another reason I can never crack that 1k. I'm usually lucky if I have one variant immortalised pre each event, with sometimes other variants at various lower levels and stars. We haven't had an event yet where the featured characters are already in my crew. But then I've only been playing a few months, so I don't expect that to happen. With the number of 4* and 5*s in the game, the odds are low that I'd pre-own a featured character
I was really jammy this week in having WW2 Paris, Proton and Cardy Kira immortalised, but as you state above you really need lots of featured and variants to do well. Couple that with my abominable shuttle success/fail rates (perhaps just a quirk of RNG here, but I've had way more fails in this event compared to other faction events) and it's no wonder I couldn't even get near the third Reed reward at 120k that I needed to FF him. I'm sitting on 92k now with just under an hour left. This is my worst score in quite some time.
Oh well, maybe next time. Now I know the 4k scheme, that may help.
Level 99. Latest Immortal (957): Chancellor Gowron - October 2023.
I was really jammy this week in having WW2 Paris, Proton and Cardy Kira immortalised, but as you state above you really need lots of featured and variants to do well.
Thing is I don't have lots. I only had 6 (+1). You have 3 plus maybe a nice squad leader. You'll also get a 3/4 Reed which also helps. If you use Hockey Paris and Sniper Reed with a generous dose of shuttles boosts, you might be able to make it. I didn't use boosts too much (maybe 30-40 3* in total).
Even though having Delta Flyer Paris 1* lv100, Rura Penthe Reed FF/FE, Disguised Kira 2* lv100 and never having any success rate below 70 I have had the most fails ever. HALF of all my shuttles failed and I have had at least 6x 99% success rates fail and countless 90+% fail. According to DB support this is normal but I pointed out that having 6x 99% fail without having send out +/-600 shuttles is not normal, actually the amount of fails in comparison to the amount of shuttles send should be statistically impossible and I know that I am not the luckiest man alive since I have never won the lottery. support stayed quiet after that.
Thanks, guys, for the discussion, the feedback, and the suggestions!
Well, I don't think I was (overly) complaining and whining (except for the Subject line, but that was on purpose to get your attention ;-) ), and I was not suggesting RNGsus or bad programming had anything to do with it.
It was more of a "I thought I did everything I could, but I am making no progress, do you have any suggestions?" type of thing.
I absolutely know how you feel - I've been playing from nearly the start of the game and placed top 100 on the first run of this event. I did a (sort of ) kickstart - was at 4000 within 5 hours of start, got most all missions out at 70-85% and had a run of amazing luck then a longer run of brutal beats - sitting at 1057 with 15 minutes to go.
If I want a second star for the Paris won last time, will need to blow a stack of dilithium on my last set of shuttles to *maybe* stagger over the 1000 line.
Them's the breaks but it's pretty frustrating that the event prize structure hasn't changed one iota since the very start, while the player base must have multiplied.
I am at ~170 this event and I didn't spend a penny here. I instead used lots and lots of 3 star speed boosts on Saturday and Sunday. I find that even with the 4000 speedup, I end up at ~1100 unless I use at least some speedups during the event. My event crew is an immortalized Disguised Kira, immortalized most other Kiras (not mirror intendant) and an immortal Medic Paris.
It's nice that there are always people making sure we use correct spelling and grammar or point out when they feel words are not exactly used correctly according to their knowledge. This is especially nice for the many non native English speakers. For them it is always good to point out any written flaws even when you can understand what was meant.
I was really jammy this week in having WW2 Paris, Proton and Cardy Kira immortalised, but as you state above you really need lots of featured and variants to do well.
Thing is I don't have lots. I only had 6 (+1). You have 3 plus maybe a nice squad leader. You'll also get a 3/4 Reed which also helps. If you use Hockey Paris and Sniper Reed with a generous dose of shuttles boosts, you might be able to make it. I didn't use boosts too much (maybe 30-40 3* in total).
I was at just over 80k last night before I went to bed. Managed to push up to 92k by this afternoon, but no way of getting 120k in the time available. My final shuttle (the other three finished an hour and a half ago, so couldn't fit more in) failed. I never got above 1800VP missions all event.
Level 99. Latest Immortal (957): Chancellor Gowron - October 2023.
This was a horrible torture for me and I hope not to feel the desire to repeat it for a long time.
I did the full exploit start. Then quickly fell to 2750 failing 3/4 at 80% for the first full 24 hours.
Then it got better to between 2/4 and 4/4. Rank teetered between 800-1100 for the duration.
Finished last shuttles at 11:45 at exactly 1000. In 5 minutes fell 50 places. 50 more in the next 7.
Spent 400 dilithium and all 3 of my gold speeds and finished 903.
It hurts having to spend that but I guess it's good value.
It hurts more being slave to game for 4 days.
Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, is all ancient history. Then, before you can blink an eye, suddenly, it threatens to start all over again."
This is the kind of crew you will need to score top 1000. After the 40 shuttle rush, I was at 4000 VP shuttles almost the entire weekend except for 3 occasions where I regressed to 3500 VP shuttles. I used some 3* boosts but mostly to insure points for my squad leader and keep things above 60%. I do not fish for easier shuttles, I use whatever missions the game gives me. Regrettably I'll be finishing out of the top 650.
Sorry, you are wrong. Only numbers count. Last time I checked I was the one with a masters in mathematics and would be surprised if you brought that kind of competence to the table (if you do, I apologize).
Numbers don't lie. Never. Numbers are all the game is based on. The mechanisms behind the game do not look what crew you have, but what numbers you bring.
My crew is pretty OK I guess...for the mega event it was very descent, for the current event it was mediocre...ironically, my success rates in the current event was better than during the mega event. It still underperformed (i.e. success rate displayed > achieved success rate) but it was not as bad as in past events. I finished in top 1500, something I never was able to do before.
Edit: Please note that my post you referred to (and I did as well) does not deal with reaching any kind of threshold, but deals with the assumption that the displayed success chances are incorrect. For this discussion it is absolutely irrelevant how many VP a mission gives as results. Whether it gives you 2 VP or 4000 VP, if your average success chance is x% but you only succeed (x-10)% then the numbers provided are incorrect. That's what my post deals with!
It also asks the question if there is (always) a RNG at work at all, or if it at least at times is deterministic. This is very difficult to prove, but experiences in Gauntlet and during events sure as hell feel as if the system is actively working against you/some players, for whatever reason DB might have to do so.
Most people in this thread get to 4000 VP and the overnight shuttles are perfectly reasonable. All you have to do is not miss shuttles during the day and maintain a success rate of 81%. That's hardly impossible. I did it without even having a bonus 5* on my roster. If you decide to wake up and do shuttles overnight, the required percentage drops all the way down to 68%, which almost anyone can do. Just my 2 cents.
One small thing I do is open missions before I "complete" the previous ones. That way even if I fail 3/4 (which we all know happens even when it shouldn't), I stay at 4k VP.
One small thing I do is open missions before I "complete" the previous ones. That way even if I fail 3/4 (which we all know happens even when it shouldn't), I stay at 4k VP.
I don't think it works that way. Each shuttle you send is adjusted based on the success/failure count when you send it. Don't believe the displayed VP pre-launch. Look at it after it is sent. (And that also reflects whether it succeeded/failed, which happens upon launch. You just won't know for three hours.)
One small thing I do is open missions before I "complete" the previous ones. That way even if I fail 3/4 (which we all know happens even when it shouldn't), I stay at 4k VP.
I don't think it works that way. Each shuttle you send is adjusted based on the success/failure count when you send it.
The VP is definitely based at your difficulty level (accumulated success count) at the time the mission is opened, not sent. That's the whole reason the fast track works.
One small thing I do is open missions before I "complete" the previous ones. That way even if I fail 3/4 (which we all know happens even when it shouldn't), I stay at 4k VP.
I don't think it works that way. Each shuttle you send is adjusted based on the success/failure count when you send it. Don't believe the displayed VP pre-launch. Look at it after it is sent. (And that also reflects whether it succeeded/failed, which happens upon launch. You just won't know for three hours.)
One small thing I do is open missions before I "complete" the previous ones. That way even if I fail 3/4 (which we all know happens even when it shouldn't), I stay at 4k VP.
I don't think it works that way. Each shuttle you send is adjusted based on the success/failure count when you send it. Don't believe the displayed VP pre-launch. Look at it after it is sent. (And that also reflects whether it succeeded/failed, which happens upon launch. You just won't know for three hours.)
The difficulty is only adjusted when you hit the complete button.
and because you already get the shuttle back when the timer hits zero, you can start an event by sending out 30 1-min-shuttles in a row.
Sorry, you are wrong. Only numbers count. Last time I checked I was the one with a masters in mathematics and would be surprised if you brought that kind of competence to the table (if you do, I apologize).
Having a degree in higher mathematics does not keep you from the having the wrong idea. If you don't believe me, go ask Ted Kaczynzki. He's good at math but had a few wrong ideas.
My crew is pretty OK I guess...for the mega event it was very descent, for the current event it was mediocre...ironically, my success rates in the current event was better than during the mega event.
You've still not posted your event crew yet.
The entire purpose of faction events is too string as many 4000VP shuttle successes as possible. I really don't care about my percentages that much. They could be full of **tsk tsk** but I can say the following:
1 - Given a CMD/SEC slot on a shuttle I can do the following:
a: Add Rura Penthe Reed
b: Add Cardassian Kira
c: Add Kortar (4/5 L100 FE)
2 - The percentages increase if I use Reed over Kira over Kortar.
3 - The percentages increase more if I use a shuttle boost.
You can do as much data modeling as you like to find some "proof" of fraud but at the end of the day the only thing that's holding you back most of the time is your crew. If your crew is inadequate then you must spend freely with boosts (or dilithium) to increase the number of shuttle successes. I finished in the top 1000 because I have the crew that will deliver me that finish. I would've done better if I went fishing for easier shuttle missions and/or used boosts.
Arguably the only thing that's unfair here is that I've been playing the game for 18 months and have every event 4* in the game. Newer people who really want a top 1000 finish have to deal with people like me who can get there without really trying.
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Again, with the 9 hour boost you usually are lucky if you can get 50% success.
The idea here is you should be able to maintain 7 shuttle runs on Sunday and Saturday. With the alarm to remind you it should allow you to live your life too.
7 bonus crew(Rura reed ff/fe and com Kira 3/5, the rest are super rare)
Kickstart 4000k
Squad leader 35000
4 80% shuttles
3* boost
Start everyday around 500 and reach 200s by night.
I sleep 8 hrs no double rewards boost no wake ups.
I’m definitely not a whale. I’ve failed a bunch but not more than 20%. In other threads it looked like a lot of people had bonus crew for event. I expected it to be much more difficult.
I value my sleep so using the 9 hr boosts in the night and still doing fine.
I only go hard at it for events that I want the character for, last weeks for example I was content with position 1500 I got there without using any time boosts easily enough.
Jim
In essence, you can do everything, and still play the game as intended. I also agree that doing the Mid-tier Thursday challenges is the way to go - it lets you do the kickstart, it gives you plenty of boosters - and if you have the monthly dilithium card trickling in, you should very seriously consider doing some extra runs if you can spare some extra dil for tickets. It will keep you pretty backside safe and warm for many a week in Faction events.
Shuttle 3 can be purchased after getting 75 immortals. Very attainable. Shuttle 4 was attainable very easily thanks to the dil sale last month, or if you get 150 immortals. I collected all one, two, and the star crew and have 50+ for stars at the moment.
I also consistently do get top 500 in faction events.
Screenshot of my immortal count showing my total crew count as well as VIP level
Let's face it, people, impatience is not a virtue. I have played a VIP0 on my alt since April, and on that account, even though being a secondary, I am looking at a level 40 Captain with 48 immortals, FE'd 1/5 Tempted Data, Guinan, Gowron, Borg Queen (2/5), Delta Paris, T'Kuvma (4/5) and Tuvix for gauntlet, and 23 1 and 2 stars in the pipeline to be immortalized, along with 6k chronitons, including a mis-click on FB that got me a Dr. Reyga for 72 Dil, which I reported to DB and got a copy-pasted response (meaning I will get jack for it).
I will repeat myself, but had I known the intricacies of the game back when I was starting in January 2017, and the way it will develop in the future, I would have stayed as a maximum of VIP3 on my main account.
Not trying to be a dick, Just love my fleetmates. Not trying to offend anyone else or there fleets believe what you want. All we are saying is that you can compete in shuttle events and do well as a VIP 0 but you need to be very dedicated. Best of luck to you
I only realised this the week before last. I wasted like 8 weeks getting 3 4*s instead of the good rewards. I'm such a fool, but glad to see I might not be alone
Captain level 50, approaching 100 immortals
All you need to know about Disruptor Beam
This game and this place is full of such things. Really mastery seems to come not only from active strategy but mining the forums old and new for pitfalls to avoid. And that's the thing, theres a lot of deep skills and knowledge that folks have here. It's just a matter of how you want to invoke it.
Your crew is not good enough to put you in the top 1000. I don't care about your "numbers" since you couldn't even be bothered to list the number of VP points you're getting per shuttle. Without VP we have no idea what your crew is like. You did make a cryptic reference to getting 1800/2250 shuttles in your post which is almost meaningless.
My crew (L100 FFFE):
Rura Reed
Rura Reed (from squad leader)
Anastasia
Proton Paris
Combat Paris
Cardassian Kira
Baseball Kira (1/4 L100 FE)
This is the kind of crew you will need to score top 1000. After the 40 shuttle rush, I was at 4000 VP shuttles almost the entire weekend except for 3 occasions where I regressed to 3500 VP shuttles. I used some 3* boosts but mostly to insure points for my squad leader and keep things above 60%. I do not fish for easier shuttles, I use whatever missions the game gives me. Regrettably I'll be finishing out of the top 650.
I use the 9 hour boosts overnight and have done better than 50% in this event. Even at 50% it's a wash VP-wise. It feels good sending them out knowing I can forget about the event for a while.
By the way, I'm VIP 5...
I was really jammy this week in having WW2 Paris, Proton and Cardy Kira immortalised, but as you state above you really need lots of featured and variants to do well. Couple that with my abominable shuttle success/fail rates (perhaps just a quirk of RNG here, but I've had way more fails in this event compared to other faction events) and it's no wonder I couldn't even get near the third Reed reward at 120k that I needed to FF him. I'm sitting on 92k now with just under an hour left. This is my worst score in quite some time.
Oh well, maybe next time. Now I know the 4k scheme, that may help.
Thing is I don't have lots. I only had 6 (+1). You have 3 plus maybe a nice squad leader. You'll also get a 3/4 Reed which also helps. If you use Hockey Paris and Sniper Reed with a generous dose of shuttles boosts, you might be able to make it. I didn't use boosts too much (maybe 30-40 3* in total).
I don't think that word means what you think it means...
I absolutely know how you feel - I've been playing from nearly the start of the game and placed top 100 on the first run of this event. I did a (sort of ) kickstart - was at 4000 within 5 hours of start, got most all missions out at 70-85% and had a run of amazing luck then a longer run of brutal beats - sitting at 1057 with 15 minutes to go.
If I want a second star for the Paris won last time, will need to blow a stack of dilithium on my last set of shuttles to *maybe* stagger over the 1000 line.
Them's the breaks but it's pretty frustrating that the event prize structure hasn't changed one iota since the very start, while the player base must have multiplied.
2 words, It means that the statistical data does not support the outcome and so the data is corrupted
I was at just over 80k last night before I went to bed. Managed to push up to 92k by this afternoon, but no way of getting 120k in the time available. My final shuttle (the other three finished an hour and a half ago, so couldn't fit more in) failed. I never got above 1800VP missions all event.
I did the full exploit start. Then quickly fell to 2750 failing 3/4 at 80% for the first full 24 hours.
Then it got better to between 2/4 and 4/4. Rank teetered between 800-1100 for the duration.
Finished last shuttles at 11:45 at exactly 1000. In 5 minutes fell 50 places. 50 more in the next 7.
Spent 400 dilithium and all 3 of my gold speeds and finished 903.
It hurts having to spend that but I guess it's good value.
It hurts more being slave to game for 4 days.
Sorry, you are wrong. Only numbers count. Last time I checked I was the one with a masters in mathematics and would be surprised if you brought that kind of competence to the table (if you do, I apologize).
Numbers don't lie. Never. Numbers are all the game is based on. The mechanisms behind the game do not look what crew you have, but what numbers you bring.
My crew is pretty OK I guess...for the mega event it was very descent, for the current event it was mediocre...ironically, my success rates in the current event was better than during the mega event. It still underperformed (i.e. success rate displayed > achieved success rate) but it was not as bad as in past events. I finished in top 1500, something I never was able to do before.
Edit: Please note that my post you referred to (and I did as well) does not deal with reaching any kind of threshold, but deals with the assumption that the displayed success chances are incorrect. For this discussion it is absolutely irrelevant how many VP a mission gives as results. Whether it gives you 2 VP or 4000 VP, if your average success chance is x% but you only succeed (x-10)% then the numbers provided are incorrect. That's what my post deals with!
It also asks the question if there is (always) a RNG at work at all, or if it at least at times is deterministic. This is very difficult to prove, but experiences in Gauntlet and during events sure as hell feel as if the system is actively working against you/some players, for whatever reason DB might have to do so.
- Jump start to 4000 VP
- 16 overnight 9h shuttles
- 76 regular shuttles
Most people in this thread get to 4000 VP and the overnight shuttles are perfectly reasonable. All you have to do is not miss shuttles during the day and maintain a success rate of 81%. That's hardly impossible. I did it without even having a bonus 5* on my roster. If you decide to wake up and do shuttles overnight, the required percentage drops all the way down to 68%, which almost anyone can do. Just my 2 cents.
I don't think it works that way. Each shuttle you send is adjusted based on the success/failure count when you send it. Don't believe the displayed VP pre-launch. Look at it after it is sent. (And that also reflects whether it succeeded/failed, which happens upon launch. You just won't know for three hours.)
The VP is definitely based at your difficulty level (accumulated success count) at the time the mission is opened, not sent. That's the whole reason the fast track works.
I don't think that is correct.
The difficulty is only adjusted when you hit the complete button.
and because you already get the shuttle back when the timer hits zero, you can start an event by sending out 30 1-min-shuttles in a row.
Having a degree in higher mathematics does not keep you from the having the wrong idea. If you don't believe me, go ask Ted Kaczynzki. He's good at math but had a few wrong ideas.
You've still not posted your event crew yet.
The entire purpose of faction events is too string as many 4000VP shuttle successes as possible. I really don't care about my percentages that much. They could be full of **tsk tsk** but I can say the following:
1 - Given a CMD/SEC slot on a shuttle I can do the following:
a: Add Rura Penthe Reed
b: Add Cardassian Kira
c: Add Kortar (4/5 L100 FE)
2 - The percentages increase if I use Reed over Kira over Kortar.
3 - The percentages increase more if I use a shuttle boost.
You can do as much data modeling as you like to find some "proof" of fraud but at the end of the day the only thing that's holding you back most of the time is your crew. If your crew is inadequate then you must spend freely with boosts (or dilithium) to increase the number of shuttle successes. I finished in the top 1000 because I have the crew that will deliver me that finish. I would've done better if I went fishing for easier shuttle missions and/or used boosts.
Arguably the only thing that's unfair here is that I've been playing the game for 18 months and have every event 4* in the game. Newer people who really want a top 1000 finish have to deal with people like me who can get there without really trying.