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    Prime LorcaPrime Lorca ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have mixed opinions regarding Lower Decks (and Prodigy, for that matter).

    I like that Lower Decks is laughing with Trek, instead of at it. It even brings up some good criticisms along the way. However, nearly every episode needs to dip into really juvenile humor once or twice, and that does nothing for me. S1 Mariner is often intentionally annoying to other characters, but in my opinion equally annoying the the audience. She better in S2.

    In my opinion, Prodigy can't decide what sort of show it wants to be. Sometimes it's an outsider show introducing Trek to a newer audience - light on lore, but with a similar spirit of cooperation, exploration, and adventure. I think it does this well. Other times it triple-downs on the references, which almost all fall flat for me. And at its worst, it's knock off Clone Wars. I think Prodigy can shake off that last bit, but I worry it can't let go off the references long enough to really find itself.

    Every first season of every Star Trek series fits that "trying to decide what it wants to be." :) I thought Picard would be an exception, but nope. They went one direction in S1, then S2 was like "sure, that happened, but that's not what we're doing this season."

    I think Prodigy has an even harder first season task than other Star Trek stuff. It's their first season, plus they are doing something that has not a Trek thing before. Being specifically geared more towards getting younger viewers involved. {Even though I am not the only 50+ year old viewer.}

    Nah. Every Trek tries to expand audience. Except Enterprise.

    TOS: horny nerds
    TNG: new generation of nerds
    DS9: first black captain (black nerds)
    VOY: first female captain (female nerds)
    ENT: back to the (mostly white) horny nerds
    DSC: new generation of nerds
    PIC: 2 generations of nerds
    LWD: comedy-loving nerds (not to mention black female captain and lead)
    PDG: kid nerds (plus Janeway so parents watch too)

    You list has one common phrase in each category. I feel like I should be offended. And yet, I'm not! :smiley:

    I AM offended.





    I'm a horny nerd who likes all the series.

    Me too. I'm a horny female nerd. They implied I can't be both kind of nerds.😋

    Did I imply that?

    Voyager.

    That no more implies it than DS9 implies there's no horny black nerds. Which seems utterly laughable to me. :D

    TAS— horny cartoon nerds FTW! 😝

    I haven't actually watched TAS. I uh... didn't realize it was that kind of cartoon. :D

    Oh, indeed it is, indeed it is…

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    Never underestimate the early seventies.

    I see. Your evaluation appears to be legitimate. :D
    Farewell 🖖
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    Commodore PackCommodore Pack ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have mixed opinions regarding Lower Decks (and Prodigy, for that matter).

    I like that Lower Decks is laughing with Trek, instead of at it. It even brings up some good criticisms along the way. However, nearly every episode needs to dip into really juvenile humor once or twice, and that does nothing for me. S1 Mariner is often intentionally annoying to other characters, but in my opinion equally annoying the the audience. She better in S2.

    In my opinion, Prodigy can't decide what sort of show it wants to be. Sometimes it's an outsider show introducing Trek to a newer audience - light on lore, but with a similar spirit of cooperation, exploration, and adventure. I think it does this well. Other times it triple-downs on the references, which almost all fall flat for me. And at its worst, it's knock off Clone Wars. I think Prodigy can shake off that last bit, but I worry it can't let go off the references long enough to really find itself.

    Every first season of every Star Trek series fits that "trying to decide what it wants to be." :) I thought Picard would be an exception, but nope. They went one direction in S1, then S2 was like "sure, that happened, but that's not what we're doing this season."

    I think Prodigy has an even harder first season task than other Star Trek stuff. It's their first season, plus they are doing something that has not a Trek thing before. Being specifically geared more towards getting younger viewers involved. {Even though I am not the only 50+ year old viewer.}

    Nah. Every Trek tries to expand audience. Except Enterprise.

    TOS: horny nerds
    TNG: new generation of nerds
    DS9: first black captain (black nerds)
    VOY: first female captain (female nerds)
    ENT: back to the (mostly white) horny nerds
    DSC: new generation of nerds
    PIC: 2 generations of nerds
    LWD: comedy-loving nerds (not to mention black female captain and lead)
    PDG: kid nerds (plus Janeway so parents watch too)

    You list has one common phrase in each category. I feel like I should be offended. And yet, I'm not! :smiley:

    I AM offended.





    I'm a horny nerd who likes all the series.

    Me too. I'm a horny female nerd. They implied I can't be both kind of nerds.😋

    Did I imply that?

    Voyager.

    That no more implies it than DS9 implies there's no horny black nerds. Which seems utterly laughable to me. :D

    TAS— horny cartoon nerds FTW! 😝

    I haven't actually watched TAS. I uh... didn't realize it was that kind of cartoon. :D

    Oh, indeed it is, indeed it is…

    20uihvm8usnm.jpeg

    y30kwsnevs8m.jpeg

    Never underestimate the early seventies.

    I see. Your evaluation appears to be legitimate. :D

    And then, of course, there is the glorious fact that in a wonderful turning of the tables James T. Kirk had the unsolicited moves put on him for once by this lady…

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    It was a totally groovy time…
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