Kai Winn
Thurthorad
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in The Bridge
Is there a free way to get a fifth one of her or do we have to cite her to make her useful?
(Not complaining that we got her, the artwork is great, I just expected as she was a FREE gift that they'd make sure we could get all that we needed in game)
(Not complaining that we got her, the artwork is great, I just expected as she was a FREE gift that they'd make sure we could get all that we needed in game)
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Joking aside… no. Historically giveaway crew are 4/5 after you earn all their available copies.
But, these 4/5 giveaways feel like a -1 crew slot giveaway. It's not that Kai is Winn is bad, but there are just better targets for me to use my citations on. Would it have killed them to make sure we can get 5? Then she's actually very occasionally useful. Now I kinda feel bad for having wasted my time with those 150 gauntlets.
When I came back I saw that there was a Chef Pike thing and he was way worse, I just assumed I'd missed out on the chance to get the remaining free copies somewhere. These are the moments where I feel that they don't play the game, because they don't seem to understand how we the players value the cards.
Again, this is more feedback than a complaint, I really do like the art, it would be nice if she was occasionally useful for something.
But consider reading up on her on bigbook.app, or visit one of the Discord servers to discuss her merits. You’ll likely find many elderly players have chosen to cite her.
https://www.bigbook.app/crew/winn_kai_crew
Yeah, Picard-Gate was due to a mistake. Otherwise, it’s always been 4/5.
If I am remembering correctly, in that instance many players had used a citation to take Mirror Picard to 5/5, and then for some reason DB sent out a 1/5 Mirror Picard to some players (as compensation for something?). And then it ended up being corrected for all players, I think.
I’m sure the thread is still on the Forums somewhere if you search Mirror Picard.
If the intent was to give us a crew that we'd all use, then 5 is a more appropriate number (though of course they can't do it now, they'd have Picardgate all over again.)
Anyway, it's just a thought. I'm not unhappy, just disappointed.
I've been away a while. Even the big book only rates her at #74 overall and she shares the same stats with several big hitters I already have. I'll be using the citations I have on much better characters (or someone I love who turns up unexpectedly).
Campaigns (premium & 3rd track) & Recap packs are not free - they are paid for. So any "loot" is paid for. So the cite or recap pull that gets you the 5th * on a legendary was never free.
Same goes for the OE / special occasion 5* giveaways, you earn 4 copies by play and the 5th you spend for - in what ever manner you deem fit.
The whole purpose of the give away is to sell a few DYC.
Stop acting like a Solbor
Honestly, that's not the intent. I have always had an issue with them even creating crew that you wouldn't want to cite the week they came out. For years before I left I was arguing for more power creep. It infuriated me that a crew would come out (Raffi Musiker comes to mind) and they would never be worth citing. Because, if they weren't worth citing the week they came out, they'd never be worth it and then they'd never actually see any play.
Having gone away and come back the game is way more fun for me because I now have a ton of better crew to collect, so it's again just bothersome when they essentially give away junk. Especially when the art on the card is so good. I want to play with her, but even if I cite her that would be a rarity.
Maybe I'm just not really into the collecting aspect of the game. I want be excited to see new crew and excited to play with them for a year and for them to 'rotate out' into the freezer as they inevitably get replaced by the new hotness over time.
I am not thankless. As I said right off the top, for me and other players in my position, when a new collection comes out it's cha-ching! But the feedback I am trying to give to them is that if they want to have a giveaway that has value to all players, have the free one in the Time Portal be the 5th one. Then no matter who it is it'll have more significant value for everyone.
Also You: I like COLLECTIONS.
Who me?
No, I want useful characters to play the game. There is a mechanic for frozen crew who are no longer of use, which is great. But it's an aside, well at least for me. What I want is for characters to come out, be playable and useful and then get retired in time to the place where they give a tiny passive bonus (which is what collections are from an individual character basis). The occasional windfall from having played the game for years and spent some money is also appreciated. Genuinely.
You guys are all so cynical. You totally see the giveaway as a marketing ploy without batting an eye. I am presuming that they want to actually do a giveaway as an occasional thank you and that's what my original comment was for. You guys may be right, maybe these giveaways are cynical, but I am hoping that they are not and that useful feedback will be appreciated.
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It also helps out the starting players a lot, even if they have the card at 4/5 for a while.
It's cheaper & more beneficial to get the next level of campaign though.
Although that totally depends on your level & how easy it will be to level up the crew