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This post is going to contain some spoilers from the IDW comic series Star Trek: The Next Generation - Mirror Broken.

I know a lot of people have mixed feelings about the inclusion of the TNG crewmembers in mirror variants. Personally, I don’t have a problem with it because this version of the crew was fully licensed and approved by the owners of the Star Trek property.

I hadn’t read any of this series until today. I had the free comic book day giveaway issue that had the first chapter of the story but just hadn’t gotten around to reading it yet. A few interesting things came out of it.

1. It looks highly likely that IDW and DB have been working together for a little while. The back cover for the comic is an ad for Star Trek Timelines. It’s interesting that they advertised on the back of the issue that came out back in May. That means DB has been aware of the series for seven months, giving them plenty of time to see the designs and prepare crew based on TNG for the game.

2. The comic immediately explains how the empire can still exist in the TNG time frame and still fit in with all of the DS9 episodes. It takes place on the ISS Stargazer, one of the few ships to survive the downfall of the empire. It explains that the Cardassians and the Klingons were never able to fully penetrate the defenses around Earth. The empire is now relegated solely to Earth’s solar system. The Klingons and the Cardassians basically leave the empire alone because it’s not worth the trouble that it would take to assault the homeworld. The empire has been weakened to the point where it is no longer a threat to the KCA. That actually makes sense and fits in without contradicting anything from the episodes.

3. The story takes an interesting twist in the giveaway comic with the mirror version of Barclay killing the mirror version of Tasha Yar and becoming chief of security the way Worf took the role when Yar died in the prime universe. It’s also interesting that Picard sets things in motion intentionally to cause the events between Yar and Barclay.

4. The giveaway comic is just the start of the story but gives us an idea of the possible mirror characters we will see in the rest of the event and probably in other packs going forward. Picard, Barclay, Troi, Data and Yar all appear. Riker, Geordie, Beverly and Wesley are all mentioned in the editorial page,

It was an interesting first chapter so I am most likely going to get the remaining issues because the story was interesting enough.

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  • edited December 2017
    That was an awesome read, thank you for the time you took to put it up. It indeed clears a lot of unknowns, at least for me - because I am EU-Based and I am far from privy to the comics of 99% of the stuff I follow (ex. Timelines, Arrow, Flash, etc.). As such, I am always very grateful to anyone who takes the time to either do a writeup or a video that explains the missing pieces for me. My hat is off to you :)
  • So i was right...the empire couldnt be completly defeted and Picard's ship is one of the few surviving vessals...glad he is canon!
  • Poor Tasha. Chick just can't catch a break in any timeline.
  • Althea BiermontAlthea Biermont ✭✭✭✭✭
    Poor Tasha. Chick just can't catch a break in any timeline.

    I know, I was thinking the same thing LOL

  • MagisseMagisse ✭✭✭✭✭
    Poor Tasha. Chick just can't catch a break in any timeline.
    Curious why Picard set that up? Was he just wanting whoever was stronger, or did he have something against Tasha?
  • Althea BiermontAlthea Biermont ✭✭✭✭✭
    Magisse wrote: »
    Poor Tasha. Chick just can't catch a break in any timeline.
    Curious why Picard set that up? Was he just wanting whoever was stronger, or did he have something against Tasha?

    There was a Vulcan slave rebellion so Yar ordered the destruction of the two convoy ships that had the slaves. There were several thousand slaves on the ships. Barclay questioned the decision and Yar said the rest of the slaves would learn from that.

    Picard had a commendation ceremony for her service. Previously Picard called Barclay aside and had him step out of engineering to be assigned to assist Yar quell the rebellion and advised him to assert himself. Picard arranged for Yar to be alone after the ceremony. Barclay killed her (she had humiliated him earlier) and Picard walks in on it and says he’s glad Barclay took his advice. He said Yar’s ambition needed to be curbed calling the killing of all the slaves a pointless show of muscle and waste of resources.

    He tells Barclay that arranged the ruse of the ceremony to draw her out and then promoted Barclay to her position

  • MagisseMagisse ✭✭✭✭✭
    Man, that's pretty sneaky right there. You'd think someone would be skilled at Diplomacy with that kind of maneuvering. Hmm.
  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    So i was right...the empire couldnt be completly defeted and Picard's ship is one of the few surviving vessals...glad he is canon!

    Being from a licensed work doesn't mean canon. Canon generally means from the TV series and movies.
  • Dralix wrote: »
    So i was right...the empire couldnt be completly defeted and Picard's ship is one of the few surviving vessals...glad he is canon!

    Being from a licensed work doesn't mean canon. Canon generally means from the TV series and movies.

    Well from what I hear it was accept by the creators of star trek as canon....was that information false? Either way I still like mirror Picard
  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well from what I hear it was accept by the creators of star trek as canon....was that information false?

    Canon is not entirely black and white.

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

    Either way I still like mirror Picard

    My comment wasn't intended as any commentary on Mirror Picard, or any other non-canon character for that matter. Just that there are licensed works, and then there is canon.

  • edited December 2017
    Dralix wrote: »
    Well from what I hear it was accept by the creators of star trek as canon....was that information false?

    Canon is not entirely black and white.

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

    Either way I still like mirror Picard

    My comment wasn't intended as any commentary on Mirror Picard, or any other non-canon character for that matter. Just that there are licensed works, and then there is canon.

    :confounded:I am so confused right now!! I can assume he (mirror Picard) is fannon? Like you said...it isn't always black and white
  • Canonical.
  • Mackenzie Calhoun isn't canon as much as many wish he was, so Mirror Picard would be in the same boat. The writers of the comic fitting him in with existing continuity doesn't really mean anything long run. The expanded universe (books, comics, RPGs etc) can do whatever they like with permission, but can be overridden at any time by what appears on screen. The DC TNG comics back in the day operated on the same understanding. If anything they printed was later contradicted by the show, well the comic is simply a parallel/divergent reality.

    Occasionally expanded universe stuff does get accepted within a show's continuity. Four years ago during Doctor Who's 50th anniversary celebrations, the Eighth Doctor audio adventures were accepted into screen canon when his companions from that series were briefly mentioned at the end of Night of the Doctor. Though at any point in the future, the showrunner could choose to change elements of those adventures to fit what they're doing on TV, should they play a part again.
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  • NivenFresNivenFres ✭✭✭✭
    It was an interesting first chapter so I am most likely going to get the remaining issues because the story was interesting enough.

    Did the same thing. Read the free one, then picked up the digital ones on Amazon (~$1.99) each. Overall, I enjoyed the story. One thing that bothered me a little was (*spoilers*) the fact that the I.S.S. Enterprise-D was the Future Enterprise (3 nacelles and saucer mounted cannon) from "All Good Things". It makes sense they wanted to build a battleship, it just seemed a little odd to me.
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  • alternately, you can get a free one week trial to comixology unlimited and read all of them during the trial like I did. Very hopeful that Mirror Troi will be in the event :smiley:
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  • AstrometricsAstrometrics ✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    Althea: great read, you have definitely awoken my interest in this comic :)

    :confounded:I am so confused right now!! I can assume he (mirror Picard) is fannon? Like you said...it isn't always black and white

    He is not fanon. Fanon is an unauthorised, unlicensed product of fanfiction.

    Let's just catalogue characters in three branches (simplified):

    - Canon: either from the show, from the movies, or directly endorsed by the author/licenseholder.
    - Licensed: produced with the permission/approval of the author, but not part of the canon (unless endorsed by the author, or borderline cases such as faithful book adaptations of movies).
    - Fanon: produced by fans, unlicensed and unapproved.
    - Non-canon: other source. Can include, for instance, producer or actor interviews, concept art, unreleased/cut/modified scenes, unproduced TV scripts, and so on. Fun fact, "Threshold" is considered by many to be the only non-canon episode of Star Trek.

    So this is licensed. Not canon and not fanon. Most books, comics audiobooks are licensed.

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  • Jim SteeleJim Steele ✭✭✭✭✭
    This post is going to contain some spoilers from the IDW comic series Star Trek: The Next Generation - Mirror Broken.
    Thanks for the post, intriguing. Cannon or Non-Cannon, I like the art in them and DB has done a good job of Picard, I hope mirror Data is just as good.

    Jim

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    Troi looks great I like Rikers beard too 😌

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    After reading this I soooooooooo want a Mirror Q

    In the mirror universe, the Q was the dread deity of the Orion Cabal, a cult of the Orion race, who worshipped him with, crime, chaos and blood sacrifice. The Assassins of Q killed in his name.

    According to their legends, this Q was a formless entity (referred to by the male 'he' or the neutral 'it'), hungry and chaotic, that once walked among the people of the mirror universe, and conquered many races. When he set out to conquer the Terrans, however, they found some secret weapon against him, perhaps an ally of god-like powers or an ancient magical incantation, and banished Q to a prison outside the known dimensions.

    From this place, Q was only able to communicate with his chosen people, the Orions, and only through certain religious ceremonies. It was Q's command that they spread suffering, confusion and fear. The Cabal's ultimate goal was to free Q, so he could then lay waste to the known Galaxy, punish the Terrans, and finally alter the laws of physics to elevate his loyal servants into powerful beings like himself, and together they could rule the fractured reality.

    However, beyond the claims of the Cabal priests, the Q Continuum was not otherwise known to exist in the mirror universe, or they hadn't revealed themselves to anyone else there. (Decipher RPG module: Through a Glass, Darkly)
  • MagisseMagisse ✭✭✭✭✭
    Troi looks good, but I'm not sure what's up with that ribbon thing. Seems like it would get caught on stuff all the time. Should take a lesson from The Incredibles...No capes!
  • Althea BiermontAlthea Biermont ✭✭✭✭✭
    Troi didn’t do much in the first part that I read. But Barclay calling her Picard’s Mind-Witch intrigued me.
  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    So is every Mirror character in the game going to have SEC as one of their stats? Lol.
  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    So is every Mirror character in the game going to have SEC as one of their stats? Lol.

    The Mirror Universe is a hostile place. You don't survive long without being able to defend yourself.
  • HaBlack wrote: »
    So is every Mirror character in the game going to have SEC as one of their stats? Lol.

    SEC works as Diplomacy in Mirror

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  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    Hope you all like Mirror Data's art. He's going to be huge in the gauntlet soon enough, as his ENG proficiency looks identical to Mirror Picard's CMD, which would make him the new champ.
  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hope you all like Mirror Data's art. He's going to be huge in the gauntlet soon enough, as his ENG proficiency looks identical to Mirror Picard's CMD, which would make him the new champ.


    For me, stats trump art every time.
  • Turns out Data's proficiencies are nothing special.

    Also, on a pedantic note, thank you elementee for pointing that the proper adjective is "canonical," not "canon." That's always bugged me, but it's probably too late to mount a real battle against it.
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  • Turns out Data's proficiencies are nothing special.

    Also, on a pedantic note, thank you elementee for pointing that the proper adjective is "canonical," not "canon." That's always bugged me, but it's probably too late to mount a real battle against it.

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  • Please don't make mirror LaForge. The artwork on Borg LaForge is bad enough.
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