When is forced upgrade? Upgrade live

WaldoMag

I am still waiting for new voyage achievements and daily mission.

Shan

Some time next week, do not worry we will let you know

WaldoMag

Thanks Shan

Commander Morak

Count on it happening between events. Anything bad happens and far less player anguish will ensue.

[10F] NewtonianQBalls

Definitely waiting on this, as I am ready for the new achievements.

·§ë· For the Many

That is when it will be safe to recall with any amount of antimatter remaining, yes? And when the loot tables will change to more crew/credits & less chrons?

WaldoMag

·§ë· For The Many wrote: »

That is when it will be safe to recall with any amount of antimatter remaining, yes? And when the loot tables will change to more crew/credits & less chrons?

I believe if you are using the new version, the only thing is, you will not fail if you have antimatter and can hit recall (recall disappears during a hazard)

The other part about rewards I think is in the future not for this upgrade. Maybe Shan can respond to that point.

Edit: I reread post . It does sound like the rewards will be slightly changed on voyages with forced upgrade.

~peregrine~

Commander Morak wrote: »

Count on it happening between events. Anything bad happens and far less player anguish will ensue.

Which would mean Tuesday (not yet, as of this writing) or Wednesday, perhaps in conjunction with the Event tab appearing.

Any news on this front, @Shan ? Thanks in advance. 🖖🏻

WaldoMag

~peregrine~ wrote: »

Commander Morak wrote: »

Count on it happening between events. Anything bad happens and far less player anguish will ensue.

Which would mean Tuesday (not yet, as of this writing) or Wednesday, perhaps in conjunction with the Event tab appearing.

Any news on this front, @Shan ? Thanks in advance. 🖖🏻

+1
Am wondering if plan is still for this week

Shan

The forced upgrade should still happen this week, yes.
I do not have confirmation on the date, it will be announced via forum post and in-game mail as well.
The changes to Voyages will also happen this week, likewise it will be announced here and via in-game mail

WaldoMag

Thanks again Shan

~peregrine~

Thanks, Shan.

AviTrek

Shan, what will happen to Voyages running when the Voyages update occurs?

DavideBooks

Last time the voyages were immediately returned and we got a bunch of chronotons.

FutureImperfecta

That was the forced recall if Voyages due to an Error that prevented many from being able to bring their ships back themselves..

I'd be surprised if the same happened with the forced client update..

Captain_Who

FutureImperfecta wrote: »

That was the forced recall if Voyages due to an Error that prevented many from being able to bring their ships back themselves..

I'd be surprised if the same happened with the forced client update..

I agree. And the changes have been made on the back end already, just not enabled. DB usually does this, updates the server, rolls out the client, then waits to flip on game changing features until they restrict access to old clients that don't have the code to interact with the changes.

Shuttles have never been affected by these, updates, there's no reason to expect voyages to be (significantly) affected either.

AviTrek

Captain_Who wrote: »

FutureImperfecta wrote: »

That was the forced recall if Voyages due to an Error that prevented many from being able to bring their ships back themselves..

I'd be surprised if the same happened with the forced client update..

I agree. And the changes have been made on the back end already, just not enabled. DB usually does this, updates the server, rolls out the client, then waits to flip on game changing features until they restrict access to old clients that don't have the code to interact with the changes.

Shuttles have never been affected by these, updates, there's no reason to expect voyages to be (significantly) affected either.

Shuttles run their RNG at the start to establish success/failure and rewards. They just sit there waiting for the timer to end. Voyages need to run RNG constantly because DB doesn't know when you'll recall(unless they run RNG out for 72 hours up front). So a loot table change mid-voyage could affect the voyage you are currently running. That may or may not be a problem and it's unclear how DB will handle it. It's also unclear if they preserve state of the pri/sec skill of the VOY to survive the changes. if not then they'll need to do something to prevent everyone from suddenly having bad skill matches on their VOY.

Captain_Who

You make good points. I'd be most concerned over the loot tables, but we do know how unintended consequences tend to happen with these updates.

Also, the timer and sync issues is why I added the significantly affected caveat to voyages. I can definitely see some wierdness happening.

and since I just sent one that should hit 8 hours with no problems, Murphey should be intervening, causing DB to roll out the update shortly, voyages to go off the rails and DB to force-recall again.

Shan

The forced upgrade is done and the changes to Voyages are live.
https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/2346/server-release-notes-changes-to-voyages-holiday-sale-and-more-12-20

WaldoMag

Thanks Shan. I guess tomorrow the 2 new achievements and 1 daily activity for voyages will become available.

Shan

You have not read the announcement
The 2 achievements are live but if you have already signed in today you will only see them tomorrow.

The daily activity is not live yet.

WaldoMag

Thanks again Shan.

Mr.Smitty

Very disappointed that chronitons are being nerfed. I definitely won’t be spending dil on voyages anymore.

Magisse

Er, Shan wasn't there supposed to be an increase to the crew drop rate as per Erin's post? Not that I'm sorry to see less 1*'s, but I've been hoping to get more 4*'s in the past-6hour Voyages.

Edit (how could I forget?): And where's the crew slots?

WaldoMag

It only took effect at noon EST time. They just started. I actually saw a reward of 15 Chrons. On my 8+ hr voyage. But they are reducing the amount of times one gets the Chron. reward. So the question is, are Chrons actually reduced. I also saw the standard 500 credit reward. So if credits are being increased it has to be from more occurring or dilemma gives them. I forgot to mention reduction in Chron could come from dilemmas.

eXo | SilverRose (retired)

Thanks for the updates Shan.

Well, the new voyage / RNG reclusive characters have totally killed my desire to collect all the characters in this game. No point anymore. Yesterday, I only had 3 characters in game I didn’t own (which included Guinan and Worf). Today, it’s nearly two rows.

Dralix

WaldoMag wrote: »

So if credits are being increased it has to be from more occurring or dilemma gives them. I forgot to mention reduction in Chron could come from dilemmas.

- Slightly increased chances to earn Credits, Training Programs, and Components.
- 4 new Voyages exclusive crew have been added as on-time rewards. Experiment with Dilemmas and you might encounter them; tell us when you do!
- Slightly decreased chances to earn 1* crew.
- Slightly decreased chances to earn Chronitons on Voyages going past 4 hours.

https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/2346/server-release-notes-changes-to-voyages-holiday-sale-and-more-12-20#latest

WaldoMag

@Dralix
I know the plan. However, when I see my voyage giving me 15 Chrons. When the max I ever saw before was 10 I am not sure what is going on. Are you telling me you have seen a reward of 15 Chron before.

(HGH)Apollo

How many chrons are we going to lose with the changes? When I go eight hours I get 350-500 chrons. So how many will I lose now? 50? 100? 150?

Dralix

WaldoMag wrote: »

@Dralix
I know the plan. However, when I see my voyage giving me 15 Chrons. When the max I ever saw before was 10 I am not sure what is going on. Are you telling me you have seen a reward of 15 Chron before.

No, I'm telling you what the official word was on two things you speculated about. If you had already read that post then my apologies.

WaldoMag

Thanks Dralix

No need to apologize, having that link is great. Was just wondering with RNG I might have just never seen it before.

Edit: my voyage is in the 8hr to 10 hr range seems to consistently give me 15 Chron. when I get the chronitons reward and 100+500 credits when I get the double reward of credits.

Edit2: my voyage on my main account at 11.5hr mark just gave me 15 Chron. my guess is the new max reward for Chron (non-dilemma) is 15 Chron. Not sure at what hour mark it starts at.