Guy who escaped what was essentially a huge bait and switch wants you to know that being forced to accept a free, useful legendary card is actually the new cruelty,
First Officer - Task Force April
Squadron Leader - [TFA] Bateson’s Bulldogs
Guy who escaped what was essentially a huge bait and switch wants you to know that being forced to accept a free, useful legendary card is actually the new cruelty,
For many people it wasn't useful. That is the point.
That is why people are complaining.
Those who found the card useful are lucky but they have to realise that others were not so lucky
Some people got a free legendary but a large number of people only got 550 honour how hard is it for some people to understand?
Many people got the fifth star for Picard simply because they had very reasonable cause to believe that they could not easily complete him otherwise. If it was a brand new legendary nobody would have been out of pocket
Gees I really did not want to post in this victim-blaming & shaming convention, but it won't go away so:
DB did not give a "free" legendary to everybody. DB gave a free legendary to people who may or may not have been impacted by a crash which cost a completely different thing (Troi)
- and gave a pittance of 550 honour to everyone else, who were even more likely impacted by the crash, while devaluing a different legendary card that they paid to FF in $ or 50k honour which cost a ton of time and generally $.
Dear anonymous OP troll: you're in error to think we cited him solely for strategy in the event, since that's not the only function or relevance of the card. I put my hard earned honour into a card that I wanted for longterm use and sentiment since he's a powerful version of a favourite crew. Now that card is devalued in a way that broke trust and established protocol of previous mega-event crew, amounting to wrongful advertising since the email. See: https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/comment/31066/#Comment_31066
And affected players have still not been compensated for the crash. Which IMV should be everyone who played the event, receives the remaining rewards for one rank bracket up from where they landed after the crash.
Thank you to all the empathetic captains who, despite the email Picard benefitting themselves personally, understands that it was a hard slap in the face to everyone else.
I get the OP's view point on this one, it is a strategy to get that extra star early, and having done this myself I was rewarded throughout the event, (I was disappointed throughout the mega event, but that's cos i was out played, so well done to the other players). Players getting 50K honour is more valuable than a particular star on any 5 star crew member, and I'd have some grumbles over that.
But from the other point of view, when I opened that message, that's the first time a 'gift' from DB felt like a kick in the pants. I sent a CS ticket to DB, (No response yet, I did wait until I was in a more civil mood to send it). I hoped they would understand my frustration, and I hoped they would gift me something useful. What I said was I would like to decline the Picard gift, because I would of preferred to have had nothing than that. Whilst I think some gesture of good will would be wise on DB's part, I don't think I'm entitled to 50K honour (except that a precedent has been set in this case).
I suspect this was intended to be a large good will gift, yes because of the issue at the end of this event, but because this mega event was disrupted and disruptive over the Christmas season. I hope this doesn't scare DB off giving gifts of substantial value when they consider it appropriate. I also hope they might consider more carefully what gift they give.
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space, because there's bugger all down here on Earth.
-Monty Python, The Meaning of Life
Whilst I think some gesture of good will would be wise on DB's part, I don't think I'm entitled to 50K honour
After 10 months of dedicated playing this was my very first FF and immortalized legendary. At the same time I do my best to take care of a full active fleet for zero rewards to myself other than the satisfaction of happy captains. A free service to the game, you're welcome DB. I do not whine for freebies. I am entitled in full and without an atom of shame to whatever was gotten from me under false pretenses. I did not cite him for some marginal advantage for a couple events. That assumption needs to go right out the window.
That 50k was diverted away from Mobile Doctor and that's where it would have gone if I'd known that DB would go back on their understood protocol with us about mega-event legendaries. I'm not putting months worth of effort into a citation just for slight advantage in a few events! Good for others if they did, that is up to them. We're all entitled to whatever purposes we had for it.
Without it being reasonably foreseeable on our part, that investment has been rendered at least mostly void, the card cheapened, more valuable time and energy now being used trying to get compensation for this mindlessness for ourselves and others.
While I agree with much of what you wrote, Picard was not a random star that dropped. It was 50k honour we saved and deliberately invested into him with a certain trust and understanding with the company which they broke (I believe out of sheer thoughtlessness, not malice).
I couldn't ask for a more awesome, typically chill and friendly bunch in a fleet - most of who are now justifiably peeved enough into boycotting this event or refusing to invest another cent until further notice/refund. DB should consider themselves lucky to have them, and getting off lightly if all they do is refund the honour and DYC.
Especially if they don't compensate those who were impacted by the crash in the first place, missed out on Troi when booted from the game as they were cashing in - a group I'm not even a part of.
Can't tell me that someone at rank 1015 cashing in rares when it crashed, doesn't deserve more compensation than I do, even though the crash didn't impact me whatsoever. I'd have been happy with nothing at all, if those people had been compensated.
You felt like you were kicked in the pants by the dupe Picard, because you were. That disconnected irresponsibility from a company alone should net you a citation, without trouble and argument.
If someone with only 4/5 doesn't want their free Picard either, they should likewise write to CS and ask for him to be exchanged for honour or a citation instead if that's what they prefer. Don't blame and whine at the people who actually had their efforts and investment unexpectedly devalued, or tell them they should have somehow foreseen it or known they were taking some big risk, when that makes no sense with the mutual understanding until now.
Several posters have made some strange claims about waiting until the last minutes of a galaxy event to turn in super rare rewards:
1. This is a strategy that is not available to all players
2. Waiting until near the end is inherently risky
No supporting evidence was provided for either of these claims, which are wholly false.
As a strategy, there is no requirement for spending, VIP, captain level or any other qualification. Every single participating player in a galaxy event is capable and entitled to employ this strategy if they so choose.
The only risk to which the other posters could be referring is the risk of another crash during the advertised and accepted hours of the event, such as happened last week. It is totally unacceptable that anyone, especially a player, would believe players should go into an event expecting and planning for a crash or other error. To think that any player believes it's ok for players to accept and expect the game's coding and supporting infrastructure to be unstable and unreliable boggles my mind. This cannot and should not become the new status quo, and it pains me to see some of my fellow players already acquiescing.
Just because the game has occasionally broken, it doesn't mean we should expect it to continue breaking and alter our playing style accordingly.
If there was a fair trade-in value for legendary cards, this all would have gone away. Instead they were a-lot of people annoyed that they spent money in the belief that it was the only way to FF their character only to be rewarded with a card that couldn't be used beyond 550 honour.
DB need to keep the people that pay the bills happy and the offer to exchange the 'compensation' Picard for more Honour was the right thing to do.
As a strategy, there is no requirement for spending, VIP, captain level or any other qualification. Every single participating player in a galaxy event is capable and entitled to employ this strategy if they so choose.
There are many players who would be at work in jobs where they are unable to use their phone at this time of day so they would be unable to use this strategy
As a strategy, there is no requirement for spending, VIP, captain level or any other qualification. Every single participating player in a galaxy event is capable and entitled to employ this strategy if they so choose.
There are many players who would be at work in jobs where they are unable to use their phone at this time of day so they would be unable to use this strategy
Problem is that applies for anything with a timer.
And frankly, that is not limited to the Super Rare turn in but playing the event at all. Super-Rare turn in is just the hot button because it some newer folks discovered the strategy.
Chron spending/crafting or speeding up shuttles, or frankly even playing arena battles after reset before reward are several areas that could advantage someone or disadvantage them based on timer.
Changing the super-rare piece would take a strategy out and still leave those same folks disadvantaged.
Full disclosure: I just cashed in my super-rares as I'm about to start my shift at work. Might get a lil surreptitious forum time if the day goes slowly but not phone time.
Maybe I'm the minority, but I paid the 25 for Picard right off because:
- I stared at my 4/5 Borg Queen for months before pulling the trigger on a citation. It was a source of irritation it was so close. And she wasn't in the general packs for months either.
- You get the items to level 50 as part of the deal. Not a huge perk, imo, given the cost of items over 80. It just annoys me to get the stuff after the character is already level 90+, as if I'm missing part of the value. I'm less likely to take this offer on characters I've leveled already.
There is a group of players that buy the cover because we want it FF, not because we think having one extra star is worth the money for the advantage it gives during these mega events. I'd have been fine waiting a week after the event so long as the character was "complete."
a) they never gave out a 5* as compensation before
This is not true. In the faction event where they were rewarding 10k+ points on 4k shuttle failures, they awarded choice of Arachnia/Chaotica.
As I recall, only players who submitted tickets were offered the Arachnia/Chaotica choice, while Picard went to everyone. DB also did not provide any notice inside the game, so many players were unaware of the issue until the heard through the grapevine that they could receive a free ledgendary by complaining to CS. I did not make a claim then because I felt that was REALLY unfair and there was not so much as a peep from DB that there was anything wrong outside of the forums. As misguided as the current compensation is, that was worse.
If you also recall, they gave us s third choice of 1000 dilithium which is the choice I went with
If u hadnt gotten Picard to 5 stars then Db gave u another star, if u had him already to 5 stars then DB gives u a chance to add a star to a different crew member. Both groups get an additional star to a crewmember. Everyone had the ability to buy a star for Picard at the beginning of the month event whether they used money or honor. No one knew a picard would be given to us at the end. Seems pretty fair to me.
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Guy who escaped what was essentially a huge bait and switch wants you to know that being forced to accept a free, useful legendary card is actually the new cruelty,
Squadron Leader - [TFA] Bateson’s Bulldogs
For many people it wasn't useful. That is the point.
That is why people are complaining.
Those who found the card useful are lucky but they have to realise that others were not so lucky
Some people got a free legendary but a large number of people only got 550 honour how hard is it for some people to understand?
Many people got the fifth star for Picard simply because they had very reasonable cause to believe that they could not easily complete him otherwise. If it was a brand new legendary nobody would have been out of pocket
DB did not give a "free" legendary to everybody. DB gave a free legendary to people who may or may not have been impacted by a crash which cost a completely different thing (Troi)
- and gave a pittance of 550 honour to everyone else, who were even more likely impacted by the crash, while devaluing a different legendary card that they paid to FF in $ or 50k honour which cost a ton of time and generally $.
Dear anonymous OP troll: you're in error to think we cited him solely for strategy in the event, since that's not the only function or relevance of the card. I put my hard earned honour into a card that I wanted for longterm use and sentiment since he's a powerful version of a favourite crew. Now that card is devalued in a way that broke trust and established protocol of previous mega-event crew, amounting to wrongful advertising since the email. See: https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/comment/31066/#Comment_31066
And affected players have still not been compensated for the crash. Which IMV should be everyone who played the event, receives the remaining rewards for one rank bracket up from where they landed after the crash.
Thank you to all the empathetic captains who, despite the email Picard benefitting themselves personally, understands that it was a hard slap in the face to everyone else.
~· Fly with the Subspace Eddies! ·~
But from the other point of view, when I opened that message, that's the first time a 'gift' from DB felt like a kick in the pants. I sent a CS ticket to DB, (No response yet, I did wait until I was in a more civil mood to send it). I hoped they would understand my frustration, and I hoped they would gift me something useful. What I said was I would like to decline the Picard gift, because I would of preferred to have had nothing than that. Whilst I think some gesture of good will would be wise on DB's part, I don't think I'm entitled to 50K honour (except that a precedent has been set in this case).
I suspect this was intended to be a large good will gift, yes because of the issue at the end of this event, but because this mega event was disrupted and disruptive over the Christmas season. I hope this doesn't scare DB off giving gifts of substantial value when they consider it appropriate. I also hope they might consider more carefully what gift they give.
-Monty Python, The Meaning of Life
After 10 months of dedicated playing this was my very first FF and immortalized legendary. At the same time I do my best to take care of a full active fleet for zero rewards to myself other than the satisfaction of happy captains. A free service to the game, you're welcome DB. I do not whine for freebies. I am entitled in full and without an atom of shame to whatever was gotten from me under false pretenses. I did not cite him for some marginal advantage for a couple events. That assumption needs to go right out the window.
That 50k was diverted away from Mobile Doctor and that's where it would have gone if I'd known that DB would go back on their understood protocol with us about mega-event legendaries. I'm not putting months worth of effort into a citation just for slight advantage in a few events! Good for others if they did, that is up to them. We're all entitled to whatever purposes we had for it.
Without it being reasonably foreseeable on our part, that investment has been rendered at least mostly void, the card cheapened, more valuable time and energy now being used trying to get compensation for this mindlessness for ourselves and others.
While I agree with much of what you wrote, Picard was not a random star that dropped. It was 50k honour we saved and deliberately invested into him with a certain trust and understanding with the company which they broke (I believe out of sheer thoughtlessness, not malice).
I couldn't ask for a more awesome, typically chill and friendly bunch in a fleet - most of who are now justifiably peeved enough into boycotting this event or refusing to invest another cent until further notice/refund. DB should consider themselves lucky to have them, and getting off lightly if all they do is refund the honour and DYC.
Especially if they don't compensate those who were impacted by the crash in the first place, missed out on Troi when booted from the game as they were cashing in - a group I'm not even a part of.
Can't tell me that someone at rank 1015 cashing in rares when it crashed, doesn't deserve more compensation than I do, even though the crash didn't impact me whatsoever. I'd have been happy with nothing at all, if those people had been compensated.
You felt like you were kicked in the pants by the dupe Picard, because you were. That disconnected irresponsibility from a company alone should net you a citation, without trouble and argument.
If someone with only 4/5 doesn't want their free Picard either, they should likewise write to CS and ask for him to be exchanged for honour or a citation instead if that's what they prefer. Don't blame and whine at the people who actually had their efforts and investment unexpectedly devalued, or tell them they should have somehow foreseen it or known they were taking some big risk, when that makes no sense with the mutual understanding until now.
~· Fly with the Subspace Eddies! ·~
1. This is a strategy that is not available to all players
2. Waiting until near the end is inherently risky
No supporting evidence was provided for either of these claims, which are wholly false.
As a strategy, there is no requirement for spending, VIP, captain level or any other qualification. Every single participating player in a galaxy event is capable and entitled to employ this strategy if they so choose.
The only risk to which the other posters could be referring is the risk of another crash during the advertised and accepted hours of the event, such as happened last week. It is totally unacceptable that anyone, especially a player, would believe players should go into an event expecting and planning for a crash or other error. To think that any player believes it's ok for players to accept and expect the game's coding and supporting infrastructure to be unstable and unreliable boggles my mind. This cannot and should not become the new status quo, and it pains me to see some of my fellow players already acquiescing.
Just because the game has occasionally broken, it doesn't mean we should expect it to continue breaking and alter our playing style accordingly.
DB need to keep the people that pay the bills happy and the offer to exchange the 'compensation' Picard for more Honour was the right thing to do.
There are many players who would be at work in jobs where they are unable to use their phone at this time of day so they would be unable to use this strategy
Problem is that applies for anything with a timer.
And frankly, that is not limited to the Super Rare turn in but playing the event at all. Super-Rare turn in is just the hot button because it some newer folks discovered the strategy.
Chron spending/crafting or speeding up shuttles, or frankly even playing arena battles after reset before reward are several areas that could advantage someone or disadvantage them based on timer.
Changing the super-rare piece would take a strategy out and still leave those same folks disadvantaged.
Full disclosure: I just cashed in my super-rares as I'm about to start my shift at work. Might get a lil surreptitious forum time if the day goes slowly but not phone time.
- I stared at my 4/5 Borg Queen for months before pulling the trigger on a citation. It was a source of irritation it was so close. And she wasn't in the general packs for months either.
- You get the items to level 50 as part of the deal. Not a huge perk, imo, given the cost of items over 80. It just annoys me to get the stuff after the character is already level 90+, as if I'm missing part of the value. I'm less likely to take this offer on characters I've leveled already.
There is a group of players that buy the cover because we want it FF, not because we think having one extra star is worth the money for the advantage it gives during these mega events. I'd have been fine waiting a week after the event so long as the character was "complete."
If you also recall, they gave us s third choice of 1000 dilithium which is the choice I went with