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[Resolved]Problems with Basic Packs on 4.02 (Steam/Facebook) (WAS :Another nerf?)

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edited April 2018 in Engineering Room
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  • Peachtree RexPeachtree Rex ✭✭✭✭✭
    Huh...I've never NOT gotten at least one 2* crew. This is pretty bad...
  • Lady GaghgaghLady Gaghgagh ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've gotten plenty with no crew in them.
    This is NOT new. It's been this way for quite some time.
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  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    Submit a ticket, that's a bug. They guarantee a 2*. I've never not gotten one and if you didn't, then you should be able to get one.
  • UprisingUprising ✭✭
    Lady Gaghgagh wrote: »
    I've gotten plenty with no crew in them.
    This is NOT new. It's been this way for quite some time.

    In my humble opinion, the word "INCLUDES" means something. :/
  • Peachtree RexPeachtree Rex ✭✭✭✭✭
    Small samples and what not, but I just rattled off 20 pulls and did not miss a 2* in a single one.
  • [ISA] Big McLargeHuge[ISA] Big McLargeHuge ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's one heck of a statistical correction. And for the record, I have never gotten a 10x basic portal and not gotten at least one 2* or better.
  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think they used to say guaranteed a 2* or better. But I just checked and that language has been removed.
  • srhrobhudsahsrhrobhudsah ✭✭
    I frequently get 10x pulls with only a 1* crew and items..this is not surprising to me in the least
  • P-RexP-Rex ✭✭
    edited April 2018
    Interesting that the wording now is "INCLUDES UNCOMMON+ ITEM" crew is not mentioned, and in both the pictures Uprising has taken, even with the borg queen behold, still no green ITEM in either.
    So i had a look and done a single ten pull myself.

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    i don't see a green uncommon item in this lot either.
    So maybe someone should be looking into that.
  • [DB - Do Better] Prowler[DB - Do Better] Prowler ✭✭✭
    I thought Borg Queen wasn't in the pool? Only Dabo & Mega Event? Are any others like her in the regular pool?
  • P-RexP-Rex ✭✭
    Yes a new bunch was added in a server update about a month or so ago.

    https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/4421/server-release-notes-03-20-edited-11-40-am-et#latest
  • [ISA] Big McLargeHuge[ISA] Big McLargeHuge ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow. That's really fixing something that wasn't broken.
  • [ISA] Big McLargeHuge[ISA] Big McLargeHuge ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Buying a pack of 10 guarantees an Uncommon crew member. There is a chance for more than one character, and for rares or higher."

    Looks like the wiki needs an edit. Unless this is not supposed to be happening.
  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've tracked 800 credit 10x pulls. I've gotten at least one 2* in every one, if they removed that it's recent and really should have been announced.
  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just check, the verbiage is gone. Really not cool DB on this one.
  • <TGE> Clifford<TGE> Clifford ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's really strange. In the past, I have always ALWAYS gotten a 2* crew, even if I already had a better crew before the green one. I have hundreds of screenshots.

    I spent something like 15 million credits hunting down Festive Jadzia and I ALWAYS got a 2* crew.
  • {DD} Smelly{DD} Smelly ✭✭✭✭✭
    When you look at all the things in this game that REALLY need some attention, you HAVE to wonder who's brilliant idea it was to "fix" this. What in the actual... is going on at DBHQ?
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  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    If anything, that hurts the new player starting out. 6 kinds of not cool stealth changes.
  • Princess TristaPrincess Trista ✭✭✭✭✭
    Only you
  • {DD} Smelly{DD} Smelly ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    If anything, that hurts the new player starting out. 6 kinds of not cool stealth changes.

    I can't even imagine being a new player in this game right now. Collections were the final nail in the coffin for my f2p account. Between starbase bonuses and collection bonuses, newbs are at such a disadvantage that I fail to see why they would even bother to stick around. I like the idea of collections but the rewards are backwards. The best rewards should be the first rewards, and rewards should diminish as you go, otherwise you're giving massive bonuses to players who already have the massive bonus of having 2-300 immortal chars, a big enough advantage in its own right. And now new players can't even get a guaranteed usable cadet out of a standard pull? Something is so wrong with that.
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  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    [ISA] Big McLargeHuge wrote: »
    "Buying a pack of 10 guarantees an Uncommon crew member. There is a chance for more than one character, and for rares or higher."

    Looks like the wiki needs an edit. Unless this is not supposed to be happening.

    That's what it used to say when you read the text on the packs.

    Looks like this nerf came with the apple forced disclosure of drop percentages.
  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had some free pulls and credits to burn. I bought 30 packs and got a 2* in every one. I can't prove that it's still a guarantee, but based on their new published odds it's 3.07% chance of a 2* in a single pull. In a 10x that's 73% chance of not getting a 2* and a 27% chance of getting at least one 2*. The odds of hitting that 27% chance 30 pulls in a row is effectively 0 even with broken DB RNG.

    If this is a change, they accidentally rolled it out and have now reverted back to the old guarantee.

    Note, I'm not running the updated client, if this change is controlled by the new client I can't comment on it.
  • Peachtree RexPeachtree Rex ✭✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    I had some free pulls and credits to burn. I bought 30 packs and got a 2* in every one. I can't prove that it's still a guarantee, but based on their new published odds it's 3.07% chance of a 2* in a single pull. In a 10x that's 73% chance of not getting a 2* and a 27% chance of getting at least one 2*. The odds of hitting that 27% chance 30 pulls in a row is effectively 0 even with broken DB RNG.

    If this is a change, they accidentally rolled it out and have now reverted back to the old guarantee.

    Note, I'm not running the updated client, if this change is controlled by the new client I can't comment on it.

    I can't imagine drop results are determined by the client. That would be screaming for a hack/exploit. That had to be back end...
  • [DB-DO BETTER] [7TW] Captain plim123[DB-DO BETTER] [7TW] Captain plim123 ✭✭✭✭
    I just did 5 10x pulls and got a 2* crew for each.

    I think it's a bug. The premium 10x also says "Includes" and we known that guarantees a purple.

    ...I think, right?
  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    Peachtree Rex wrote: »
    AviTrek wrote: »
    I had some free pulls and credits to burn. I bought 30 packs and got a 2* in every one. I can't prove that it's still a guarantee, but based on their new published odds it's 3.07% chance of a 2* in a single pull. In a 10x that's 73% chance of not getting a 2* and a 27% chance of getting at least one 2*. The odds of hitting that 27% chance 30 pulls in a row is effectively 0 even with broken DB RNG.

    If this is a change, they accidentally rolled it out and have now reverted back to the old guarantee.

    Note, I'm not running the updated client, if this change is controlled by the new client I can't comment on it.

    I can't imagine drop results are determined by the client. That would be screaming for a hack/exploit. That had to be back end...

    I could see the new client making a different server call for a tweaked portal, or the client sending a flag that changed the algorithm on the server. Something so that they could run both clients at the same time before the forced upgrade and deprecating the old server code.

    Especially if this nerf was prompted by releasing the odds, I could see the potential for a connection. Granted there is no reason the premium 10x can continue to guarantee a 4* while the credit 10x can't.
  • Knight RangerKnight Ranger ✭✭✭✭
    I can't remember the last time I didn't get a crew member in a basic 10x pull, it's that long ago. Unlike some others above though, it wasn't always a 2*. Sometimes a 1* would come up, it was pretty random which I'd get. But generally, 99% of the time, someone would appear, which is why I double-taked earlier tonight when I did a pull for my portal daily target and got no-one. It's so rare an occurrence I noticed right away.
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  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've tracked my last year+, with the 30 I just did tonight I now have 832 credit 10x purchases tracked. I've gotten a 2* in EVERY pull. Sometimes it's more than one, sometimes 1* or 3+* appear too, but I've always gotten a 2*.
  • Knight RangerKnight Ranger ✭✭✭✭
    It's kinda weird and statistically improbable that some people have gotten a 2* on literally every pull out of hundreds, yet some get either a 1* or 2* instead. Wonder what code regulates that? Certain groups of DBID numbers? Join dates? Beats me.
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  • al103al103 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    It gets "better". 10-pulls don't count as 10 for "3 pulls" achievement any more, just as 1. Or at least booster 10-packs don't.

    PS. If I knew that beforehand I wouldn't opened all those common 1-pulls I got from gauntlet... would had hundred or two in reserve instead of requirement of spending money.
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