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[Resolved]Problems with Basic Packs on 4.02 (Steam/Facebook) (WAS :Another nerf?)

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  • TcalTcal ✭✭✭
    Definitely weird.
  • {DD} Smelly{DD} Smelly ✭✭✭✭✭
    al103 wrote: »
    It gets "better". 10-pulls don't count for as 10 for "3 pulls" achievement any more, just as 1. Or at least booster 10-packs don't.

    PS. If I knew that beforehand I wouldn't opened all those common 1-pulls I got from gauntlet... would had hundred or two in reserve instead of requirement of spending money.

    Standard 10 pull on iOS DOES still count. Standard 10 pull on facebook did NOT. I also did not receive a char of any kind on the facebook pull.
  • al103al103 ✭✭✭
    Standard 10 pull on iOS DOES still count. Standard 10 pull on facebook did NOT. I also did not receive a char of any kind on the facebook pull.

    Steam and Facebook are already on new client. iOS still on old until 24.
  • {DD} Smelly{DD} Smelly ✭✭✭✭✭
    al103 wrote: »
    Standard 10 pull on iOS DOES still count. Standard 10 pull on facebook did NOT. I also did not receive a char of any kind on the facebook pull.

    Steam and Facebook are already on new client. iOS still on old until 24.

    That's why I specified which was which. I suspect iOS will get the shaft on Tuesday as well.
  • al103al103 ✭✭✭
    That's why I specified which was which. I suspect iOS will get the shaft on Tuesday as well.
    LOL, I would be too busy playing Battletech to care... if I used any mobiles at all that is.
  • yep, looks like they nerfed it in the new client (facebook)
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    didn't count towards the daily 3 purchase either

    SSR Noob
    Spoiler of spoils
  • Automaton_2000Automaton_2000 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess since they were forced to publish drop rates, they want to preempt any potential losses by offering less value to players. Or it's a "bug" that won't get fixed any time soon. Still waiting on that several months old bug "Known Issue: Building and then equipping an item on a crew will require the "Understood" button to be pressed to allow further interactions with that crew. A fix will go live with our next client update."
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    Wish me luck then, I might even get something decent out of this.
  • P-RexP-Rex ✭✭
    I used game room to do an account, and i went to portal, and opened one of the ten pull shuttle boost packs from academy on Thursday. I was expecting it to give me the daily reward "purchase redeem three packs". It counted the ten pull as 1/3. So i did another and it went to 2/3. One more ten pack took it to the 3/3, that one ten pull usually counts as.
    So i tried on the phone (android) on another account, and one ten pull counted as all three to get the daily award out of the way.
    I know facebook was updated with the drop rates yesterday, so maybe since this only happened on gameroom, i thought it might be connected to the update from yesterday. But just something odd i thought you might want to hear about and maybe have a look at. Thanks.
  • ShanShan ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you, we will definitively look into it.
  • P-RexP-Rex ✭✭
    I think it's in the fb update, from yesterday, i used one account on game room, and i had to use three ten pulls of academy shuttle boosts to get the purchase redeem three packs daily reward.
    Then did another account on android phone and it counted one ten pack as all three as it usually done in the past. the pack picture i had from yesterday all basic or 1* common items was also on facebook. While my phone still gives out and does what i expect it to do as normal.
  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a bug. They didn't do this on purpose.
  • IronagedaveIronagedave ✭✭✭✭✭
    P-Rex wrote: »
    I think it's in the fb update, from yesterday, i used one account on game room, and i had to use three ten pulls of academy shuttle boosts to get the purchase redeem three packs daily reward.
    Then did another account on android phone and it counted one ten pack as all three as it usually done in the past. the pack picture i had from yesterday all basic or 1* common items was also on facebook. While my phone still gives out and does what i expect it to do as normal.

    I hope this isn't signs of things to come when all devices are updated
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  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is absolutely connected to the new client. People on Steam/Facebook are reporting no 2* in credit 10x and on Android/iOS still getting the 2*. With my 30 pull test last night I have enough data to be certain that the old guarantee is still in place. So this is absolutely a client issue(or new client + server).
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone post this in engineering yet? (not harping just offering to post it there as well..)
  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you look, it seems like they mucked with the entire section. All of the honor crew I've redeemed are back, and the $9.99 offer for Romulan Kirk that I already purchased is back as well. They'll figure it out, we'll get something for free, case closed.
  • ShanShan ✭✭✭✭✭
    4.0.2 Issues reported in this thread are being worked on.
  • DavideBooksDavideBooks ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a bug. They didn't do this on purpose.

    If it were a bug, Shan would be on here telling everyone to calm down. It is intentional. It is also minor for most players, but it would have hit me hard when I was starting.
  • Shan wrote: »
    4.0.2 Issues reported in this thread are being worked on.

    What about issues with wrong percentages displayed for faction missions?
  • Peachtree RexPeachtree Rex ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shan wrote: »
    4.0.2 Issues reported in this thread are being worked on.

    With the deploy to other platforms be delayed until these issues are fixed?
  • There's a thread in the Engineering room on this.

    Take a deep breath.
    Captain Bubble Bobble
  • Commander TuckerCommander Tucker ✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    Fingers crossed it's supposed to work the way it used to and everything screwy qualifies as "issues reported in this thread."

    1) the 10-pull counting as just 1 pull in the daily missions
    2) the lack of a crew guarantee
    3) the OP's report of getting an entire 10-pull of just grey stuff.

    That's three issues reported in this thread. I hope DB considers them all issues as well.
  • Knight RangerKnight Ranger ✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    This is absolutely connected to the new client. People on Steam/Facebook are reporting no 2* in credit 10x and on Android/iOS still getting the 2*. With my 30 pull test last night I have enough data to be certain that the old guarantee is still in place. So this is absolutely a client issue(or new client + server).

    I'm still not convinced that particular issue is a bug, or at least not in the way it's being reported. A 2* crew member has never been guaranteed, or at least it hasn't with me for the entire time I've played the game. So I suppose it could be a bug on my side in that I've never gotten the guarantee that apparently many others have, or there's no guarantee and a lot of people are in the statistical block of "jammy beyond belief."
    Level 99. Latest Immortal (957): Chancellor Gowron - October 2023.
  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    This is absolutely connected to the new client. People on Steam/Facebook are reporting no 2* in credit 10x and on Android/iOS still getting the 2*. With my 30 pull test last night I have enough data to be certain that the old guarantee is still in place. So this is absolutely a client issue(or new client + server).

    I'm still not convinced that particular issue is a bug, or at least not in the way it's being reported. A 2* crew member has never been guaranteed, or at least it hasn't with me for the entire time I've played the game. So I suppose it could be a bug on my side in that I've never gotten the guarantee that apparently many others have, or there's no guarantee and a lot of people are in the statistical block of "jammy beyond belief."

    The wiki text still reflects the old definition that did guarantee a 2*.

    Also, DB's new published stats say 3.07% chance of a 2*. So 96.93% of not getting a 2*. That's 73.21% chance of no 2* in a 10 pack and 26.79% chance of at least one 2* in the 10 pack. My 30 pulls last night are already impossible to explain based on RNG unless there was a guarantee. And my previous 800 10 packs are beyond insane. There is no way to explain that without an old guarantee that forced a 2* in the pack.
  • Knight RangerKnight Ranger ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    AviTrek wrote: »
    The wiki text still reflects the old definition that did guarantee a 2*.
    It must have changed a long time ago then, because I've been playing about 14 months now .
    AviTrek wrote: »
    Also, DB's new published stats say 3.07% chance of a 2*. So 96.93% of not getting a 2*. That's 73.21% chance of no 2* in a 10 pack and 26.79% chance of at least one 2* in the 10 pack. My 30 pulls last night are already impossible to explain based on RNG unless there was a guarantee. And my previous 800 10 packs are beyond insane. There is no way to explain that without an old guarantee that forced a 2* in the pack.

    Indeed, we're talking cosmological odds with that. But in that case, the actual bug is some people got the guarantee, others didn't. In which case, what was happening to put players in one camp or the other?

    To add to the accumulation of no crew evidence, I've since done three more basic 10x pulls to fulfil the nerfed daily target and two of them were all equipment.
    Level 99. Latest Immortal (957): Chancellor Gowron - October 2023.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    The wiki text still reflects the old definition that did guarantee a 2*.
    It must have changed a long time ago then, because I've been playing about 14 months now .
    AviTrek wrote: »
    Also, DB's new published stats say 3.07% chance of a 2*. So 96.93% of not getting a 2*. That's 73.21% chance of no 2* in a 10 pack and 26.79% chance of at least one 2* in the 10 pack. My 30 pulls last night are already impossible to explain based on RNG unless there was a guarantee. And my previous 800 10 packs are beyond insane. There is no way to explain that without an old guarantee that forced a 2* in the pack.

    Indeed, we're talking cosmological odds with that. But in that case, the actual bug is some people got the guarantee, others didn't. In which case, what was happening to put players in one camp or the other?

    To add to the accumulation of no crew evidence, I've since done three more basic 10x pulls to fulfil the nerfed daily target and two of them were all equipment.

    When I started in October of 2016, it was there. When we had another discussion regarding it and odds back in Feb of 2017 it was there. (I specifically remember some advice Frank gave me regarding the cadets and credit packs.)

    Whenever it changed it was a stealth nerf. And as I still haven't had a pack not give a 2* I believe it's a recent nerf and my device not having a new client is tied to it.

    Can you show a pack that didn't get a 2* that is more than a week ago that you pulled on a credit pack?

    Just realized this is a small Honor gain nerf as well. Where's Amb X and his honor charts when you need them :)
  • Knight RangerKnight Ranger ✭✭✭✭
    I don't routinely screencap everything I do, so no I can't show anything. There's just my own word that I've gotten packs with a 1* in and no 2*.
    Level 99. Latest Immortal (957): Chancellor Gowron - October 2023.
  • ShanShan ✭✭✭✭✭
    We have a fix for this and it should go live on Monday.
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